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#61 WearyRhino

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 02:57 PM

you wont be going round the neighbourhood since you already know about these people and the service is confidential, and you will be helping to solve what you say is a 'big problem'


Maybe given the alarming levels of benefit fraud it would save time for Johnoco to report those he knows to be NOT cheating.

Frankly, I'm surprised he hasn't been snapped up by MI5 as he seems to know everyone and what they're all up to!

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#62 Johnoco

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 03:00 PM

Maybe given the alarming levels of benefit fraud it would save time for Johnoco to report those he knows to be NOT cheating.

Frankly, I'm surprised he hasn't been snapped up by MI5 as he seems to know everyone and what they're all up to!

Whatevs!
I just don't live in well to do areas like you two.
In fact you sound like a rich tory mp claiming that poverty does not exist because everyone on his street is doing well.

Edited by Johnoco, 10 November 2013 - 03:20 PM.

No I don't care if you're if you're into different bands

No cause for so much hatred, I'm just a different man

Pull off that cover, I will too, and learn to understand

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#63 WearyRhino

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 03:25 PM

Whatevs!
I just don't live in well to do areas like you two.
In fact you sound like a rich tory mp claiming that poverty does not exist because everyone on his street is doing well.


Well to do! Lol! You're funny!

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#64 Johnoco

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 03:49 PM

Well to do! Lol! You're funny!

Everyone in York is loaded.

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No cause for so much hatred, I'm just a different man

Pull off that cover, I will too, and learn to understand

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#65 bearman

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 06:21 PM

Everyone in York is loaded.


They are all probably fiddling the benefit system then.
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#66 Johnoco

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 06:25 PM

They are all probably fiddling the benefit system then.

They have no need. Check out the property prices - its like millionaires row. Even the tramps drive BMWs in York.

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No cause for so much hatred, I'm just a different man

Pull off that cover, I will too, and learn to understand

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#67 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 06:29 PM

They have no need. Check out the property prices - its like millionaires row. Even the tramps drive BMWs in York.

Don't tramps everywhere drive those rotboxes?


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#68 JohnM

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:22 PM

They normally leave them parked round the corner from where they are begging,  Another cheat here



#69 Trojan

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 10:50 PM

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And here's the biggest cheat of the lot
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#70 ckn

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 11:31 PM

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And here's the biggest cheat of the lot

Can't be... he said he can live on £50 a week so how can he be a cheat?


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#71 JohnM

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 08:08 AM

if you know of any benefit cheats, it is your duty to report them on line or by phone 0800 854440

#72 WearyRhino

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 08:40 AM

if you know of any benefit cheats, it is your duty to report them on line or by phone 0800 854440


An 0800 number! Try and enquire about why your benefit hasn't been paid, it's an 0845 number.

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#73 JohnM

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:50 AM

When do you think this practice started?

 

 

If you have a phone package that includes landline call, you can alway try using  the "if you are calling from abroad" number...or look here: http://www.saynoto0870.com/


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#74 WearyRhino

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:55 AM

Irrelevant, it should be free.

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#75 JohnM

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:58 AM

of course it should be free to the caller, though it will cost the taxpayer, which is OK as it spreads the cost more widely.  I just wondered which champion of the poor came up with the idea and when they did it.



#76 Griff9of13

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:50 AM

I can't vouch for the accuarcy, but: Benefits fraud costs are dwarfed by MPs' expenses overclaims


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#77 Ackroman

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:46 AM

Benefit fraud is also dwarfed by farming subsidies.

 

The single farm payment is £209 per hectare.

 

Payments for areas of scientific interest - prevalent throughout Pennine Britain to maintain flora and fauna @ £12 per acre. Most farms will have 80 or so hectares - an extra £2,400

 

Payments for maintaining boundaries. I think it's similar at £2,400 for a typical farm

 

Payments for not using gates (stints) on common land, (basically payments for not farming). I have 2.5 gates that net £250 a year so a typical farm will net £20,000. Thse are important for carbon off setting.

 

So without getting out of bed I can net over £40K for owning land on a typical farm of 80 hectares.

 

There are 18.7 million hectares of farming land in the UK accruing a potential £9b in subsidies for land owners, without a seed being sown or a lamb being born.

 

Benefit fraud is somewhat dwarfed by the redistribution of wealth to land owners in the UK.



#78 Phil

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 04:11 PM

Are religion and ethnicity inextricably linked?

 

 

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#79 Trojan

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 06:32 PM

Benefit fraud is also dwarfed by farming subsidies.
 
The single farm payment is £209 per hectare.
 
Payments for areas of scientific interest - prevalent throughout Pennine Britain to maintain flora and fauna @ £12 per acre. Most farms will have 80 or so hectares - an extra £2,400
 
Payments for maintaining boundaries. I think it's similar at £2,400 for a typical farm
 
Payments for not using gates (stints) on common land, (basically payments for not farming). I have 2.5 gates that net £250 a year so a typical farm will net £20,000. Thse are important for carbon off setting.
 
So without getting out of bed I can net over £40K for owning land on a typical farm of 80 hectares.
 
There are 18.7 million hectares of farming land in the UK accruing a potential £9b in subsidies for land owners, without a seed being sown or a lamb being born.
 
Benefit fraud is somewhat dwarfed by the redistribution of wealth to land owners in the UK.

Major Major Major's father in "Catch 22" was a farmer. He opposed all state subsidies except those for farmers. He received a subsidy for not growing alfalfa (whatever that is.) He spent his entire life not growing alfalfa and would buy up extra land in order to not to grow more alfalfa. He is described as "getting up at the crack of noon in order to not mend harness." Irrelevant perhaps, but your post reminded me of him!
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#80 gingerjon

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 07:44 AM

I have 2.5 gates that net £250 a year

 

Half a gate?


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