I think if they had played Wales in this World Cup they would have beaten them don't you?
Also, you did say that France have gone backwards since "08 in your original post. So I think that comparing how they did in the 2008 World Cup with how they have done in this world cup is a valid comparison is it not?
Its hard to say really and also a moot point as they won't be playing each other.
We could also say they beat Scotland in the last WC (one result you conveniently left out of your first post, probably to suit your argument) and maybe wouldn't have beaten them in this one, but again that would show us nothing and would all be supposition.
As I have already said I think France have gone backwards since the last WC, not that we should simply compare results in isolation to suit your argument and another reason for that which i missed in my original post was they should really have been beaten by PNG, they are lucky to have made the quarters really. They will also (barring a miracle against England) leave the competition with the same number of wins and points.
I also think that some key payers are getting older or retiring and its hard to see where the replacements are coming from.
I don't think the direct comparison to the last WC is fair because we have had more opportunities to measure France, whereas unfortunately for Fiji, which is what the thread was actually about, we don't have the same number of fixtures to measure them against.
Sadly they have only played two tests that I know of since they last lost to Australia in the last WC.
Edited by Marv Woodburn, 14 November 2013 - 09:36 AM.