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#1 Martin

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 04:10 PM

Dialogue has begun with the council, a discussion over the phone has take place with city mayor Ian Stewart and a meeting is in place for mid-December.

 

It was explained to Ian that should the Trust takeover the running of the club that it wishes to play within the city boundaries in the short term and within Swinton and Pendlebury in the long term. This is also the view of Ian Stewart and temporary measures may be put in place.

 

The club have confirmed that talks have been held with a party concerning a takeover of the club. All we can do is await the outcome, however the Trust will continue to work on the premise that no investor will come on board.

 

Our meeting this week with Mark Wynn chair of Rochdale Hornets, a supporters run club, was very productive and more than anything given us an idea of what it takes in terms of time and budget to run a semi-pro rugby league club.

 

Next week another meeting with Paul Kidd is planned plus we will be seeing Blake Solly from the RFL at Media City on Friday. At this moment we are also requesting meetings with a view to securing a matchday venue for next year.

 



#2 Jonty

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 04:21 PM

Good luck, Martin. Hope all works out.

 

John


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#3 Blue Monkey

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:16 PM

Looking good Houston!



#4 LOYALION

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Posted 21 November 2013 - 06:30 PM

Well done and thanks to you and everyone else working to keep us afloat!

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#5 dummy scissors

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 12:13 AM

Thanks very much Martin for the update.  How refreshing to have a straightforward summary of what has happened and what further action is planned.  More power to your elbow.



#6 lancaster Lion

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 06:57 AM

Thanks for the update. I think the Trust is doing a great job and deserve the respect of all Lions supporters. We need to build the membership of the Trust. I urge all supporters to join asap.



#7 PhillH

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 08:00 AM

How heartening it is to see an update containing a reasonable degree of openness and looking to take things forward in a way that respects the true heritage and identity of the club.

 

Hopefully this provides a salient message to any potential new owner who may be looking to take a different direction.

 

Well done Martin.


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#8 kingspeedbump

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 08:29 AM

I can only reinforce everyone else's comments of how good it is to be given an update.

 

In a perfect world it would be nice for the Trust to take over the club.  They do some great work and have a genuine interest in the club. 



#9 Peewagg

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 09:55 AM

On February 14th 2002, literally hundreds of supporters joined the Swinton Supporters' Trust in our (initial) moment of crisis. Since that date, membership has dwindled for one reason or another (mainly apathy!) albeit there being many words but little action from fans. Since then, the Trust has been run by those who have stuck faithfully to the task through thick and thin.
If there was ever a time to join/re-join The Swinton Supporters' Trust, is is NOW! Not only would an increase in membership assist in much needed funds, but there will be supporters out there who will be specialists in certain fields, e.g. marketing, etc.
If you haven't done so already, PLEASE download a Membership Form from the trust website, complete and send it off. Share/email the form to as many relevant people you can think of.
GO!

#10 Blue Monkey

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 10:58 AM

On February 14th 2002, literally hundreds of supporters joined the Swinton Supporters' Trust in our (initial) moment of crisis. Since that date, membership has dwindled for one reason or another (mainly apathy!) albeit there being many words but little action from fans. Since then, the Trust has been run by those who have stuck faithfully to the task through thick and thin.
If there was ever a time to join/re-join The Swinton Supporters' Trust, is is NOW! Not only would an increase in membership assist in much needed funds, but there will be supporters out there who will be specialists in certain fields, e.g. marketing, etc.
If you haven't done so already, PLEASE download a Membership Form from the trust website, complete and send it off. Share/email the form to as many relevant people you can think of.
GO!

 

I'll echo that folks!

 

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#11 parky

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 11:52 AM

If the "Trust" take over and put some money in the club would the Club not have to go into administration.



#12 morty

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 12:19 PM

Good luck getting sorted guys


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#13 PhillH

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 02:12 PM

On February 14th 2002, literally hundreds of supporters joined the Swinton Supporters' Trust in our (initial) moment of crisis. Since that date, membership has dwindled for one reason or another (mainly apathy!) albeit there being many words but little action from fans. Since then, the Trust has been run by those who have stuck faithfully to the task through thick and thin.
If there was ever a time to join/re-join The Swinton Supporters' Trust, is is NOW! Not only would an increase in membership assist in much needed funds, but there will be supporters out there who will be specialists in certain fields, e.g. marketing, etc.
If you haven't done so already, PLEASE download a Membership Form from the trust website, complete and send it off. Share/email the form to as many relevant people you can think of.
GO!

 

 

We should be honest and admit there have been other factors aside from apathy.

 

When John Kidd wiped out the Trust's shareholding and board position it fundamentally changed the nature of the relationship between the club and Trust, and that did leave a number of people feeling disenfranchised.

 

Presently we are hamstrung by a lack of clarity on the question of whether people are being asked to help provide funds to assist the Kidd regime to keep going, or is the objective for the Trust to take over, or something else? And irrespective of which of those answers proves to be correct, we don't know the terms.

 

For example, if the club gets taken over and the new owner wants to drive it in a totally new direction (eg put it under the Manchester banner, as per some of the rumours) on a personal level I wouldn't like to see any of my money go towards that objective. But if that scenario does play out, I may be prepared to back efforts to sustain the Swinton name via the creation of a new club owned by the fans. 

 

At the moment there are too many "ifs, buts and maybes".  Plus the track record means people cannot really be blamed for having a degree of caution. 


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#14 dummy scissors

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:02 PM

There are lots of "ifs buts and maybes" but now is the time to nail your colours to the Trust mast in case they have to act to keep the proud Swinton name alive.  Just do it Phil.



#15 juliancaine

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 04:53 PM

I think people will need more clarity on what is going to happen, if its to prop the kidds regime up count me out, but if its going to be a supporters owned/run club with no possibility of the trusts shares being wiped out in one fail swoop as has happened in the past count me in, safeguards would have to be put in place so that no one person could gain overall control. Maybe a link to trust membership forms on here would help also.



#16 Jonty

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 06:37 PM

I think people will need more clarity on what is going to happen, if its to prop the kidds regime up count me out, but if its going to be a supporters owned/run club with no possibility of the trusts shares being wiped out in one fail swoop as has happened in the past count me in, safeguards would have to be put in place so that no one person could gain overall control. Maybe a link to trust membership forms on here would help also.

 

Here you go:

 

http://www.lionstrust.co.uk/


disques vogue

The club where Eurovision isn't a dirty word. A waltz through the leopard skin lined world of Tom Jones, Bert Kampfert and Burt Bacharach. Step out to the sound of the happy hammond and swing to the seductive sounds of the samba.

DJ's, raffles, cocktails and wide collars. Please dress smart. Gentlemen might like to wear a suit.

Same price. Same music. Same rubbish prizes.

#17 lancaster Lion

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 12:36 PM

Please can the Trust give the supporters an update following last nights meeting. My colours are nailed to the Trust mast. We just need to know which way the wind is blowing so to speak.

#18 RIGGY

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 01:06 PM

Hi Lancaster Lion

 

The next update from the Trust will be issued over the weekend once a small party have had a meeting with the RFL.

 

Thanks for your patience

 

Riggy



#19 Bleep1673

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 01:30 PM

Last updated November 2012, I think, gives you confidence?


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#20 RIGGY

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 01:49 PM

Thanks Bleep

 

That was also on the agenda last night and is due to be updated shortly but there are more pressing matters to sort out first.






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