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#41 Terry Mullaney

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 10:06 AM

I was referring to the risk that you highlighted in your original post Terry.


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#42 Viking Warrior

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 10:22 AM

a number of SL clubs have centres of excellence on the agenda, widnes are building theirs as i type which is modelled on the liverpool fc academy complex, this is the way forward for all rl clubs........

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#43 gingerjon

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 10:24 AM

Aren't Centres of Excellence required for clubs who won't have academies?

 

In the RFL 'strategy' doc, I mean.


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#44 marklaspalmas

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 10:46 AM

Great stuff Rovers! Well done to all concerned.


 

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 10:48 AM

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Oh aye, and if you want to buy this amazing book....

 

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it's in the club shop and online: http://feathers.rlst...ct/2013YEARBOOK

 

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#46 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 11:14 AM

a number of SL clubs have centres of excellence on the agenda, widnes are building theirs as i type which is modelled on the liverpool fc academy complex, this is the way forward for all rl clubs........

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#47 OMEGA

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 11:45 AM

What Featherstone are doing is fantastic for them and the game, they should be universally applauded and held up as a shining example of forward thinking and good management.

It's OK comparing Thatto Heath but they're an amateur club and therefore have funding streams and grants available that a Pro club doesn't. They also don't have to cope with balancing the business side of a pro club while also putting out and running a competitive Championship team.

Comparisons with SL clubs like Warrington and Widnes are also unfair because a Championship club doesn't have the same level of investment, local Council assistance, Sponsorship etc..

Each of the above have all done great things but I think it's more difficult for a club like FR than it is for the others.

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 11:59 AM

What Featherstone are doing is fantastic for them and the game, they should be universally applauded and held up as a shining example of forward thinking and good management.

It's OK comparing Thatto Heath but they're an amateur club and therefore have funding streams and grants available that a Pro club doesn't. They also don't have to cope with balancing the business side of a pro club while also putting out and running a competitive Championship team.

Comparisons with SL clubs like Warrington and Widnes are also unfair because a Championship club doesn't have the same level of investment, local Council assistance, Sponsorship etc..

Each of the above have all done great things but I think it's more difficult for a club like FR than it is for the others.

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#49 DeadShotKeen

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 12:43 PM

I was anti-mergers in '95 (aged 21).

 

I'm now pro-mergers.

 

Circumstances change, people change, over the course of time you sometimes start to see benefit in things that initially didn't appeal.

 

We needed stronger leadership and braver decision makers back then. In some ways the '95 plan was too soon - ahead of its time.

 

The time is now. We need the 4 mergers (Hull, Calder, Cheshire & Cumbria) and IMHO they will happen.



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 12:48 PM

I was anti-mergers in '95 (aged 21).

 

I'm now pro-mergers.

 

Circumstances change, people change, over the course of time you sometimes start to see benefit in things that initially didn't appeal.

 

We needed stronger leadership and braver decision makers back then. In some ways the '95 plan was too soon - ahead of its time.

 

The time is now. We need the 4 mergers (Hull, Calder, Cheshire & Cumbria) and IMHO they will happen.

 

The thing is though, What would Cas offer to Featherstone apart from their spot in Super League?

 

We think we can get there ourselves, we think we have better facilities too, we believe we can muster just as much support as they do.  We are a club on the up, sadly the once great Castleford (whom I love to hate!) seem to be in decline.

 

Wakefield should be nowhere near a merger in any circumstances, they should stand alone as a "City" (or biggish town with a cathedral) team.



#51 the phoenix

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 12:55 PM

cant see the mergers happening DSK , as far as i know they arent even being considered by the RFL and there is too much opposition from the fans , certainly in the calder area and the chances of a combined hull side are zilch , pretty sure that would apply to all the othereas suggested as well



#52 l'angelo mysterioso

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 12:58 PM

I was anti-mergers in '95 (aged 21).

 

I'm now pro-mergers.

 

Circumstances change, people change, over the course of time you sometimes start to see benefit in things that initially didn't appeal.

 

We needed stronger leadership and braver decision makers back then. In some ways the '95 plan was too soon - ahead of its time.

 

The time is now. We need the 4 mergers (Hull, Calder, Cheshire & Cumbria) and IMHO they will happen.

The trouble is for an idea, even a good idea to work there has to be the will, ability, energy and lack of self interest to make it work

The mergers then and now could be the best ideas on earth but there are too many obstacles in the way

Featherstone have done brilliantly in reinventing many aspects of their club, deserve all the credit that's going and the original poster is quite right to bring it to people's attention

But what happens in the immediate mid term future to the game as a whole worries me

As a spectator I don't want to see Catalans out of the elite comp on the back of say one bad season for instance, I don't want there to be obstacles in the way to a club like Toulouse

I find the idea of narrowing down the scope of the elite comp disappointing

I do disagree with you about the Cheshire and hull clubs merging though they gave too much going for them and too much potential


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#53 PREPOSTEROUS

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 01:00 PM

The thing is though, What would Cas offer to Featherstone apart from their spot in Super League?

 

We think we can get there ourselves, we think we have better facilities too, we believe we can muster just as much support as they do.  We are a club on the up, sadly the once great Castleford (whom I love to hate!) seem to be in decline.

 

Wakefield should be nowhere near a merger in any circumstances, they should stand alone as a "City" (or biggish town with a cathedral) team.

In theory they’ve got circa 6K supporters that any merged entity will need if it were ever to make it to SL. They will also increase the pool off juniors that sign up for said new club and concentrate potential sponsors/investors to one club rather than two.

 

However great it sounds in theory though, it will never happen in practice.

 

Trinity need to sort themselves out and have a good few years without being on the brink of financial collapse. If that happens and Newmarket finally gets built then they could go on to be a standalone club, if not then they are just as susceptible to being merged as the other two.



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 01:02 PM

Featherstone Rovers in an elite league is a joke, sadly it is a joke that the incumbent RFL dinosaurs do not find funny.

 

Finances (or rather, lack of them) within the game will necessitate these 4 mergers. All 4 areas need them and so does the wider sport.



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 01:20 PM

Featherstone Rovers in an elite league is a joke, sadly it is a joke that the incumbent RFL dinosaurs do not find funny.

 

Finances (or rather, lack of them) within the game will necessitate these 4 mergers. All 4 areas need them and so does the wider sport.

 

You my friend are ignorant and clueless, and you call SL an elite league? Is that an elite league where numerous clubs are struggling and poorly run?



#56 Les Tonks Sidestep

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 01:23 PM

Featherstone Rovers in an elite league is a joke, sadly it is a joke that the incumbent RFL dinosaurs do not find funny.

 

Finances (or rather, lack of them) within the game will necessitate these 4 mergers. All 4 areas need them and so does the wider sport.

 

Mergers will not generate the finance necessary for a fully pro sport. As I keep saying the truth is that RL in the UK is very much a minority sport that can only support a semi pro existence for all but a (slightly less than) handful of clubs.



#57 the phoenix

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 02:19 PM

Featherstone Rovers in an elite league is a joke, sadly it is a joke that the incumbent RFL dinosaurs do not find funny.

 

Finances (or rather, lack of them) within the game will necessitate these 4 mergers. All 4 areas need them and so does the wider sport.

what exactly do you mean by a joke or are you just on a wind up or Fev bashing (seems quite a popular sport on here by a certain few)


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#58 OMEGA

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 02:33 PM

Anyone who would deny Featherstonentheir right to win a chance at the big time has lost the plot and no longer understands the nature of sport!

I'm not one who subscribes to 'sport is a business'
Of course a club should be run as a business and wash its own face financially but the purpose of its existence shouldn't be sacrificed at the alter of a business god or even some over ambitious and conceited Chaiman.

Looking beyond clubs at the sport itself, it's members and it's governing body they too need to realise that the business side of sport should be secondary to the ethos of the sport. Recent decisions by the SGB and it's members have been against the very nature and good health of the sport both now and especially in the future, they've forgotten or never knew just why Rugby League/sport exists and why it once thrived. Removing some of the youth pathways, reducing the number of development officers etc in order to streamline the business is self serving, tantamount to incompetence and an abdication of duty.

Those who would seek to deny a club it's place in the big time, whether that's Featherstone in the Super League or Wigan Athletic in Europe have sold out and or been brainwashed by the likes of SKY.

#59 the phoenix

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Posted 22 November 2013 - 02:57 PM

i think SDK should change his sport to rugby union his eliteist views would go down well there



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Posted 22 November 2013 - 03:48 PM

L'angelo mysterioso please tell me you are taking the mickey with mergers there isnt a single true rugby league(club) supporter who believes mergers are a good idea

 

 Shows how you can be wrong sometimes,  I am in favor of some mergers, and i could live with others, there is of course always the alternitive sometime in the future of being able to say " we had one of the best teams their was before they packed up "

 

Well done to Fev by the way, A club obviously working hard to get where they want to be. I hope they get there myself, Although i hope their owners have a different outlook to some on here  or they will last a couple of seasons.  Think they will get into the real world fast enough, good luck to them.


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