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#1 Joe Whitley

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 01:36 PM

Opinion seems to be split on whether McNamara should be kept on as England coach (let's forget about Bath for now), but if he was asked to step down, who would be best placed to take over him?


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#2 RSN

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 01:40 PM

Shaun Wane.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 01:41 PM

Shaun Wane.

 

Interesting. Once we get 10 or so contenders I will set up a poll.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 01:50 PM

I think Wane or Brian McDermott are the only realistic contenders at the moment on paper.

 

I think the real issue, though, is if the RFL plan on keeping the post a full time one. If so that rules a lot of people out. Personally I think it should be, but that is limiting to the sort of people it might attract - and no disrepect to Steve McNamara but I don't think he would have gotten the job had it stayed part time.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 01:52 PM

I think McDermott and Wane together as part time head coaches would be best.



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 01:53 PM

As a Welshman and Bulls fan, I was more than happy with McNamara as England Coach.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 02:01 PM

think you'll be lucky to get five genuine contenders to be honest..

 

Only two coaches really deserve a crack at it, Shaun Wane and Brian Mcdermott.

 

Shaun Wane would get my vote


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 02:15 PM

Whoever it ends up being, he will be a useless clown in a year or so.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 04:47 PM

Jason Robinson, Shaun Edwards or Ellery Hanley.

 

All are legends, were exceptional players, command respect, and are well-known by the general public. Shaun Wane and Brian McDermott have proved to be great coaches over the past season, but neither tick all those boxes. Good as they may be, they would be unable to raise the profile of the sport nationally in the same way as any of the three aforementioned would be able to.



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:03 PM

Mal Reilly for me. 



#11 willy

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:04 PM

Wane because he understands structure, there is no one else if we actually want to win.

 

I would make him full time and get all the clubs to buy into expanding the international game by making players available for sides throughout the year

 

Wane would carry on from and improve on McNamara - whatever anyone says there was real progress and man managers aren't what's needed in a professional set up, unless we go back to short tours and accepting loss after loss

 

Robinson full time would be a possible starter but he would need a good team around him, Hanley is on a pedestal, Edwards is a team manager and motivator, not a strategist

 

I might even look at a full time team monitoring and mentoring future internationals like every NRL club does, extra skills and game coaching can't help but improve a p[layer. I know cost is an issue at club level but surely its something that should be done internationally



#12 Joe Whitley

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:05 PM

I think Wane or Brian McDermott are the only realistic contenders at the moment on paper.

 

I think the real issue, though, is if the RFL plan on keeping the post a full time one. If so that rules a lot of people out. Personally I think it should be, but that is limiting to the sort of people it might attract - and no disrepect to Steve McNamara but I don't think he would have gotten the job had it stayed part time.

 

Do you think it needs to be full-time right now?

 

 

I think McDermott and Wane together as part time head coaches would be best.

 

How would that work?

 

As a Welshman and Bulls fan, I was more than happy with McNamara as England Coach.

;)

 

I am neither of those things and was happy!

 

think you'll be lucky to get five genuine contenders to be honest..

 

Only two coaches really deserve a crack at it, Shaun Wane and Brian Mcdermott.

 

Shaun Wane would get my vote

 

No-one else at all on your radar?

 

Whoever it ends up being, he will be a useless clown in a year or so.

 

Good point!

 

Jason Robinson, Shaun Edwards or Ellery Hanley.

 

All are legends, were exceptional players, command respect, and are well-known by the general public. Shaun Wane and Brian McDermott have proved to be great coaches over the past season, but neither tick all those boxes. Good as they may be, they would be unable to raise the profile of the sport nationally in the same way as any of the three aforementioned would be able to.

 

Interesting, hadn't thought of any of those.


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#13 Joe Whitley

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:07 PM

Mal Reilly for me. 

 

Do you not think 65 is a touch too old?

 

Wane because he understands structure, there is no one else if we actually want to win.

 

I would make him full time and get all the clubs to buy into expanding the international game by making players available for sides throughout the year

 

Wane would carry on from and improve on McNamara - whatever anyone says there was real progress and man managers aren't what's needed in a professional set up, unless we go back to short tours and accepting loss after loss

 

Robinson full time would be a possible starter but he would need a good team around him, Hanley is on a pedestal, Edwards is a team manager and motivator, not a strategist

 

I might even look at a full time team monitoring and mentoring future internationals like every NRL club does, extra skills and game coaching can't help but improve a p[layer. I know cost is an issue at club level but surely its something that should be done internationally

 

Some good ideas here.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:13 PM

Personally would go for an Aussie top line coach, Bennett, B.Smith, Elliott.

 

In England maybe Mcdermott.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:27 PM

Do you not think 65 is a touch too old?

 

 

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:29 PM

 

 

Edwards is a team manager and motivator, not a strategist

 

 

 

He is the rugby equivalent of Sir Alex Ferguson. They wouldn't dare lose.



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:30 PM

Daryl Powell. Seems to be able to get the best out of teams.
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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:41 PM

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:41 PM

I'd love to see ellery Hanley get the job and the fact that he isn't coaching a club truly baffles me.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:48 PM

I'd love to see ellery Hanley get the job and the fact that he isn't coaching a club truly baffles me.

 

There are countless good reasons to give the role to Ellery. Alas, there's just one that will probably mean he won't: he isn't one of the RFL in-crowd (kind of League's equivalent of Brian Clough).