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SPOTY 2013 - Will RL get more than the 45 seconds it got last year?


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#21 John Rhino

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 10:37 PM

No wonder Andy Murray sounded miserable, Martina must have been stood there all afternoon with the trophy

And we had only voted on it two minutes before.

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#22 GIANTSTRIDES

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 10:53 PM

Wiggins did his best for wigan, and to be fair Tomkins and co got more than the soccer outfit.


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#23 Cake Tiger

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 03:26 AM

I never feel like Christmas has truly started until I see a thread on here about SPOTY. 



#24 willy

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 09:00 AM

Yup its Christmas!



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:57 AM

Did any sinister voting patterns emerge from last nights programe?

#26 gingerjon

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:58 AM

Wiggins did his best for wigan, and to be fair Tomkins and co got more than the soccer outfit.

 

Also, the RLWC got a nice montage.  We were well ahead of most other sports in terms of coverage.  Club rah rah and county cricket hardly got a mention at all for example.


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#27 John Rhino

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 12:59 PM

Did any sinister voting patterns emerge from last nights programe?


If you consider the ommission of Shawn Wayne from the coach of the year vote then yes there was. Needless to say the Beeb's favourite sport couldn't be left without an award or two.

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 01:48 PM

If you consider the ommission of Shawn Wayne from the coach of the year vote then yes there was. Needless to say the Beeb's favourite sport couldn't be left without an award or two.

 

Don't think this is very fair to be honest, and proves the short shortsightedness of many people on here.  Just checked the recipients of coach of the year award, and before Gatland, only Clive Woodward from Rugby Union has won this award.  Daniel Anderson won the award in 2006 for St Helen's achievements that year.



#29 gingerjon

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 01:50 PM

 Needless to say the Beeb's favourite sport couldn't be left without an award or two.

 

Nothing else can explain Vettel winning on a unanimous vote.


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Posted 16 December 2013 - 02:59 PM

Don't think this is very fair to be honest, and proves the short shortsightedness of many people on here.  Just checked the recipients of coach of the year award, and before Gatland, only Clive Woodward from Rugby Union has won this award.  Daniel Anderson won the award in 2006 for St Helen's achievements that year.

 

St Helens won team of the year in 2006 too. Wigan won the same award back in 1994 too. 

 

Beat the Australians in a series or win the World Cup and the BBC would be all over Rugby League. 



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 03:04 PM

St Helens won team of the year in 2006 too. Wigan won the same award back in 1994 too. 

After St Helens won the Team of the Year, the BBC changed it from a public vote to a privately-agreed award.

 

This followed some very amusing and childish tantrums thrown by members of the Ryder Cup team, who assumed it was theirs by divine right, but didn't even place in the top three for 2006. :D 


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#32 keighley

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 03:10 PM

After St Helens won the Team of the Year, the BBC changed it from a public vote to a privately-agreed award.

 

This followed some very amusing and childish tantrums thrown by members of the Ryder Cup team, who assumed it was theirs by divine right, but didn't even place in the top three for 2006. :D

 

Perhaps the BBC should run the game. Goal post moving skills are a prime requisite for RFL management :D



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 03:26 PM

After St Helens won the Team of the Year, the BBC changed it from a public vote to a privately-agreed award.

 

This followed some very amusing and childish tantrums thrown by members of the Ryder Cup team, who assumed it was theirs by divine right, but didn't even place in the top three for 2006. :D

 

They finished third because there were three nominations.  St Helens and Sussex CCC beat them.


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Posted 16 December 2013 - 03:31 PM

After St Helens won the Team of the Year, the BBC changed it from a public vote to a privately-agreed award.

 

This followed some very amusing and childish tantrums thrown by members of the Ryder Cup team, who assumed it was theirs by divine right, but didn't even place in the top three for 2006. :D

 

Well I remember at the time lots of people liked St Helens winning. I even remember Matt Dawson vocally supporting their cause on the radio show previewing the programme. They deserved it. 

 

The Ryder Cup team get team of the year virtually every time they win and at that stage the US Ryder team had turned into a bit of a joke. No sympathy with that lot at all. 

 

If you look through the winners of all the awards the majority of them are given for international sporting achievements. As always if Rugby League wants a higher media profile it needs to develop a credible annual international programme. Regular 3 match series against Australia and New Zealand would be a start.  

 

Of course the real clanger that the awards have thrown up was Ryan Giggs winning the main award in 2009. The BBC won't put random footballers on the list for the public vote again any time soon. 



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 03:49 PM

 

 

Of course the real clanger that the awards have thrown up was Ryan Giggs winning the main award in 2009. The BBC won't put random footballers on the list for the public vote again any time soon. 

 

I see Greg Rusedski and Zara Philips also appear to have won.  Giggs is a more deserving winner in pretty much any year than either of them.


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#36 John Rhino

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 03:57 PM

I see Greg Rusedski and Zara Philips also appear to have won. Giggs is a more deserving winner in pretty much any year than either of them.


You can add princess Anne to that list as well.

And to Made in Wales, we all know the Wallabies are not a great team at any time, with union being only a minor sport over there. If they had won a three match series against someone good, like the all blacks, then I would have supported it 100%
My beef was they won TWO awards which when they are like hens teeth means at least one cause, more deserving, missed out.

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 04:05 PM

I see Greg Rusedski and Zara Philips also appear to have won.  Giggs is a more deserving winner in pretty much any year than either of them.

 

Rusedski was a dodgy winner but Phillips was the World and European eventing champion in a sport that not infrequently cripples  or kills its participants. Not bad winner for an otherwise quiet year. The grannies would have fallen for the royal angle too. 

 

Giggs on the other hand beat the Formula 1 World Champion. The BBC won't put a footballer on the list again until they achieve some personally outstanding. The motivated block vote is too strong otherwise. Put someone like Steven Gerrard on the list and he would probably win the public vote too.  British club and international footballers just aren't in the same class as recent winners or many of the others on the recent shortlists. 



#38 gingerjon

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 04:07 PM

Rusedski was a dodgy winner but Phillips was the World and European eventing champion in a sport that not infrequently cripples  or kills its participants. 

 

I didn't realise potential death was a reason we should consider a sport worthy of note.


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Posted 16 December 2013 - 04:20 PM

I didn't realise potential death was a reason we should consider a sport worthy of note.

 

 

Well isn't just a bunch of toffs mucking around on horses. It is very dangerous. Statistically probably the most dangerous international sport you can take part in. More dangerous that motor racing and much, much more dangerous that any full contact or combat sport. If the number of people who died eventing died whilst boxing then boxing would be banned. As would either code of Rugby for that matter. 

 

Being the European and World champion in any internationally competitive sport is worthy of note. 



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 04:21 PM

You can add princess Anne to that list as well.

And to Made in Wales, we all know the Wallabies are not a great team at any time, with union being only a minor sport over there. If they had won a three match series against someone good, like the all blacks, then I would have supported it 100%
My beef was they won TWO awards which when they are like hens teeth means at least one cause, more deserving, missed out.

 

I can see what you mean here, it seems that a significant sporting achievement normally equates to multiple nominations across the board.  It's the way the cookie crumbles.  It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if England would have won the world cup.  Would they have won team of the year ahead of the Lions, and likewise, would McNamara have won coach of the year?  All ifs now though!!






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