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#1 ckn

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 11:37 AM

A Buzzfeed linky to 26 reasons why the BBC is great :)

 

When Labour are in power, it's a right-wing bastion of conservatism.  When the Tories are in power, the BBC is a giant liberal conspiracy to discredit them.  That says to me that the Beeb is not that far off the mark.


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#2 Wolford6

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 11:45 AM

I'm watching this week's Abba retrospective. Earlier I watched the Disco retrospective. Both great.

 

Why doesn't  the BBC have an updated (no miming) Top of  the Pops every week?


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Posted 29 December 2013 - 11:50 AM

The Abba documentary was surprisingly good but it was pitched as being one of those talking airheads programmes and called "The Joy of Abba".  Very odd promotion.  I'd never heard The Visitors album before and blinkin' 'eck it's good.

 

TOTP would need to find a way of working that doesn't link to the rather dull singles chart (dull in the sense of both sameyness and pretty low sales).  I'm not sure they've found a way of doing that yet that doesn't involve either presenters being overly ironic or Jules Holland.


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Posted 29 December 2013 - 12:03 PM

The music industry is more than ever about looks and image so all we have is good looking young people with no real talent. Most of the acts would have to mine anyway so it would be pointless.

Look at the way Adele gets treated, she has a great voice and writes great songs but people cannot let the fact that she isn't size 8 go.

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 12:20 PM

A Buzzfeed linky to 26 reasons why the BBC is great :)

When Labour are in power, it's a right-wing bastion of conservatism. When the Tories are in power, the BBC is a giant liberal conspiracy to discredit them. That says to me that the Beeb is not that far off the mark.

That's mild - the loony left KNOW the BBC is a pillar of the establishment and the rabid right KNOW that it is entirely staffed by Trotskyists. If it makes both of them furious, good.
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#6 JohnM

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:07 PM

In my experience (Switzerland, South Africa, US and France, the BBC overall has the highest production standards, widest choice, high quality programmes. Its Internet presence it absolutely excellent, too and is free from political and editoriall bias

BBC News and Current affair is howeversomewhat different. It has an self-acknowledged leftist bias not helped by its recent appointment of major Guardianista as Newsnight editor.

They have also recently publicly admitted this bias in selection of panel members for its satirical programmes.

However, the biggest problem list in its motto: we are the bbc - we are never wrong.
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#7 Trojan

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:27 PM

BBC News and Current affair is howeversomewhat different. It has an self-acknowledged leftist bias not helped by its recent appointment of major Guardianista as Newsnight editor.
 

 

Have you ever listened to World (Tories) at One?  It's like a Tory PPB from beginning to end.  Martha Kearney must be a shoe in for a safe Tory seat if she wants one. In any discussion the Tory gets the first word and the last word. On the rare occasions on Wednesdays when Millband beats Cameron at PMQ's this is studiously avoided, whereas they crow unceasingly when it's the other way around.  Today and PM are pretty even handed, but World at One is possibly the most pro Tory programme that's broadcast anywhere at the moment.  Any Questions is another example. Jonathan Dimbleby regularly feels the need to interrupt pro Labour speakers, hardly ever seems to need to do the same to those of the opposite point of view.  

What makes the Beeb seem Left Wing to many Tories is the almost total pro right wing agenda of most of our printed media.  The lie about "Labour's mess" has been swallowed hook, line and sinker by the British public largely because it's been rammed down their throats, not just by the Tories but by nearly every newspaper published in England.  Any fair minded person knows that the problem was caused by the banks (not just here either) and that the last government were (unforgivably) taken by surprise - thus the deficit. But the Tory press owned by tax avoiders, pornographers, and criminals has no interest in fairness, and every interest in large tax cuts from the, hopefully next Tory government, plus further cutbacks in the Beeb's budget. As if the assault on them at the beginning of this parllament at the behest of Murdoch wasn't bad enough.  (A fairer assessment on the deficit can be got from William Keegan BTW)


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#8 ckn

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 12:52 AM

A quite decent commentary piece by Nick Ross in today's Telegraph


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#9 Bedford Roughyed

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 04:16 AM

Great comments under there...


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

#10 Trojan

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 08:46 AM

I certainly agree that the beeb needs to prune its management structure if it is to survive.  


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 07:19 PM

The BBC is fantastic (although not faultless) and much better than anything else that exists in the world.

For all of the individual gripes that people have I can guarantee that if it were dismantled the entire country would quickly realise what a disaster it would be.

As has been pointed out already if both sides of the political divide see it as "aiding the enemy" then it must be doing a a fairly reasonable job of impartiality.

I've lived without the BBC for long enough to appreciate just how wonderful a social service it is - and how damaged the UK would be if it were dismantled amongst arguments for "streamlined business models" and other anaemic drivel.

NZTV was founded on the BBC model - and now all vestiges of public service are gone....except for the need to pay a dividend to treasury! The result is a TOTAL absence of public service programming. Kids TV is nothing more than continual advertorials for plastic ###### and the main channels are crammed full of the cheap cooking/gardening/restoration shows that should really only have a place on minority cable channels.

Programmes that inform and educate are gone - and all half decent (imported) shows are so diluted with ads as to make watching anything frustrating.

Don't make the mistake of only realising the worth and importance of the BBC after it has already been damaged beyond repair. For what you get it is extraordinary good value and worth protecting.

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 12:17 PM

A Buzzfeed linky to 26 reasons why the BBC is great :)

 

When Labour are in power, it's a right-wing bastion of conservatism.  When the Tories are in power, the BBC is a giant liberal conspiracy to discredit them.  That says to me that the Beeb is not that far off the mark.

 

I'm going to claim some credit for one of those reasons...



#13 Martyn Sadler

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 12:42 PM

As a point of information, perhaps someone can confirm whether you need a TV licence if you only watch TV on your computer or tablet, which more people now seem to be doing.



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Posted 31 December 2013 - 12:58 PM

As a point of information, perhaps someone can confirm whether you need a TV licence if you only watch TV on your computer or tablet, which more people now seem to be doing.

If only there was a world wide repository of information available at our fingertips.. :tongue:

 

Yes, you do. if you watch / record live TV (whichever channel you watch) but not if you only watch catch up services like iPlayer, 4OD etc


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#15 Martyn Sadler

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 02:05 PM

If only there was a world wide repository of information available at our fingertips.. :tongue:

 

Yes, you do. if you watch / record live TV (whichever channel you watch) but not if you only watch catch up services like iPlayer, 4OD etc

Thanks for doing the legwork.

 

It strikes me that a potential problem for the BBC is people claiming not to watch programmes live, but only on catch up. I wonder how many people try to avoid paying the licence fee by claiming that they don't watch live programmes, while not having a conventional TV in their house.

 

You would think that in a multi-media world the licence fee will become much harder to collect.



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Posted 31 December 2013 - 02:57 PM

A Buzzfeed linky to 26 reasons why the BBC is great :)

 

When Labour are in power, it's a right-wing bastion of conservatism.  When the Tories are in power, the BBC is a giant liberal conspiracy to discredit them.  That says to me that the Beeb is not that far off the mark.

Yesterday I was looking at a new FB page 30 year anniversary since the miners strike reading the posts by the some of the lads who were there I.E Orgreave etc.Their hatred of the bbc is still very strong.Accusing the BBC of doctoring the film footage of the "police riots"etc.


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Posted 31 December 2013 - 03:24 PM

Yesterday I was looking at a new FB page 30 year anniversary since the miners strike reading the posts by the some of the lads who were there I.E Orgreave etc.Their hatred of the bbc is still very strong.Accusing the BBC of doctoring the film footage of the "police riots"etc.

 

 

the beeb admitted a few years ago that footage of miners throwing missiles and police horses charging  had somehow been reversed upon broadcast.


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Posted 31 December 2013 - 04:23 PM

I am not leftwing or right wing only but love the BBC but it doe's have it's problem's and can not stand QuestionTime now as it is very left wing biased at times and the amount of money for hotel's and air fares is absurd.



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Posted 01 January 2014 - 01:34 AM

I am not leftwing or right wing only but love the BBC but it doe's have it's problem's and can not stand QuestionTime now as it is very left wing biased at times and the amount of money for hotel's and air fares is absurd.

Your rant is the best excuse for keeping QT and all progs that pee you off.

You're also as subtle as he who didn't know his surname.


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Posted 01 January 2014 - 12:48 PM

Your rant is the best excuse for keeping QT and all progs that pee you off.

You're also as subtle as he who didn't know his surname.

"wibble".






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