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#1 Bleep1673

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 04:19 PM

BBC report Leeds coach Brian McDermott as saying rugby league in London should be given a chance.

 

It has been 34 years since Fulham launched, how long does he want to give it FFS

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...league/25928537


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#2 Mumby Magic

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 04:22 PM

As long as it takes?


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 04:27 PM

As long as it takes?

 

Considering half the clubs in the traditional areas are complete basket cases after over a 100yrs, you are certainly right!


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 04:34 PM

Considering half the clubs in the traditional areas are complete basket cases after over a 100yrs, you are certainly right!

Yes but they're heartland clubs, you're not allowed to discuss them in the same way. You don't get this, do you?


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 04:38 PM

You don't get this, do you?

 

I do; I just like to buck the trend and actually bring a bit of common sense and reality to the discussion!


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#6 nadera78

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 04:39 PM

I do; I just like to buck the trend and actually bring a bit of common sense and reality to the discussion!

Good luck with that! It's a noble quest.


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#7 Northern Sol

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 05:59 PM

Yes but they're heartland clubs, you're not allowed to discuss them in the same way. You don't get this, do you?

Indeed. You wouldn't get anywhere arguing that Rochdale should be given a chance.



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 06:03 PM

London should be given as long as any founder club that is still going, that gives them longer than any of them.



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#9 Northern Sol

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 06:06 PM

London should be given as long as any founder club that is still going, that gives them longer than any of them.

I don't think that McDermott was arguing that Broncos should be allowed to exist just as Rochdale or Batley exist. 



#10 Padge

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 06:23 PM

I don't think that McDermott was arguing that Broncos should be allowed to exist just as Rochdale or Batley exist. 

My post was aimed elsewhere.



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Posted 01 February 2014 - 06:38 PM

BM argues not to judge London by the fact that the professional team aren't that successful and see the wider picture. Good luck with that one.

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#12 The Future is League

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 11:42 PM

BBC report Leeds coach Brian McDermott as saying rugby league in London should be given a chance.

 

It has been 34 years since Fulham launched, how long does he want to give it FFS

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...league/25928537

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 11:43 PM

Want to talk about the Bradford Bulls?

Yes


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Posted 02 February 2014 - 12:34 AM

Yes

How much help has the RFL given to the Bulls in recent years compared to London?

Would the RFL have bought the lease of Londons ground like it did Bradfords?

Would the RFL have advanced London money like they did the Bulls?

 

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#15 Terry Mullaney

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 01:26 AM

Not many people seem to consider how badly run the London club has been leading up to this current situation. Their own fans and past players have actually alluded to this but yet generally on here it always seems to be someone else's fault. It would be great to have a successful London club attracting huge support but, in reality, have they done all they can as a club to try to achieve that?
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Posted 02 February 2014 - 01:33 AM

How much help has the RFL given to the Bulls in recent years compared to London?

Would the RFL have bought the lease of Londons ground like it did Bradfords?

Would the RFL have advanced London money like they did the Bulls?

 

Goodnight.

Not as much.

London don't have a ground to bargain with, although if they had an area the size of Odsal (peace be upon it) in London then they would be quids in.

Yes, almost certainly.


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Posted 02 February 2014 - 01:34 AM

Not many people seem to consider how badly run the London club has been leading up to this current situation. Their own fans and past players have actually alluded to this but yet generally on here it always seems to be someone else's fault. It would be great to have a successful London club attracting huge support but, in reality, have they done all they can as a club to try to achieve that?

I'd suggest that the most promising period in the history of the Broncos was when Richard Branson was their owner during the mid-late 90's. They were building a good fanbase, attracting decent crowds and were very competitive. Sadly, that progress all came crashing down when they moved to The Valley and lost all momentum. I guess that, back then, they were being run by people who knew what they were doing. If the right people were in charge down there, I'm sure that they could achieve long term success. As always, however, the million dollar question is ; 'how do we ensure that those people are put in place?'.

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 01:46 AM

I'd suggest that the most promising period in the history of the Broncos was when Richard Branson was their owner during the mid-late 90's. They were building a good fanbase, attracting decent crowds and were very competitive. Sadly, that progress all came crashing down when they moved to The Valley and lost all momentum. I guess that, back then, they were being run by people who knew what they were doing. If the right people were in charge down there, I'm sure that they could achieve long term success. As always, however, the million dollar question is ; 'how do we ensure that those people are put in place?'.


As you say, it's the million dollar question. Perhaps it's a case of London being considered as a 'protected species' for so long by the RFL that has led to complacency and ultimately their possible demise. Hopefully not
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Posted 02 February 2014 - 02:51 AM

I'd suggest that the most promising period in the history of the Broncos was when Richard Branson was their owner during the mid-late 90's. They were building a good fanbase, attracting decent crowds and were very competitive. Sadly, that progress all came crashing down when they moved to The Valley and lost all momentum. I guess that, back then, they were being run by people who knew what they were doing. If the right people were in charge down there, I'm sure that they could achieve long term success. As always, however, the million dollar question is ; 'how do we ensure that those people are put in place?'.


Check your facts - it was the move to The Stoop that stopped progress AFTER leaving The Valley in 1996

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 11:31 AM

Check your facts - it was the move to The Stoop that stopped progress AFTER leaving The Valley in 1996

I'm well aware that they left The Valley at the end of the 1996 season, however in their first season at The Stoop they finished the league season in 2nd place - their best ever finish. They then moved back to The Valley in 1999, which seems to coincide with the start of their downturn in fortune. Either way, the Branson era does seem to indicate that - if well run by competent people, there's a chance of making the club a success.

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