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#21 Wolford6

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 06:07 PM

so you think people who listen to pink floyd don't listen to anything else, i listen to all music i just prefer floyd.

 

Fair enough. That's just capital


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#22 TheTerminator

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 07:14 PM

They were never the same after frontman and founding member Keith Floyd left to become a tv chef.

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#23 Wolford6

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 07:28 PM

Yes, their goose was cooked, even though they put a cow on the cover of their next album.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 09:10 PM

I never got the prog/pomp rock thing with banks of keyboards, artists dressed as wizards and "concept" albums. Give me drums, bass rhythmn and lead any day.


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#25 WearyRhino

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Posted 10 February 2014 - 10:29 PM

Life of Rock with Brian Pern - enough said!

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#26 Griff9of13

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 12:17 AM

Life of Rock with Brian Pern - enough said!


Sums the whole lot up perfectly don't you think? :)
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#27 Futtocks

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:06 AM

Life of Rock with Brian Pern - enough said!

I really enjoyed that! Looks like everyone involved enjoyed it a lot too.

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#28 Johnoco

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 12:21 PM

I enjoyed the Danny Baker programme after that Brian Pern one.... 'rocks the 70's a bit'. Some good clips that you don't usually see.

#29 Futtocks

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 12:31 PM

I enjoyed the Danny Baker programme after that Brian Pern one.... 'rocks the 70's a bit'. Some good clips that you don't usually see.

Some interesting choices instead of the usual suspects from the archives. Brian Eno yodelling on Dutch TV, for one.

 

Looking forward to tonight's Eighties selections.


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#30 Northern Sol

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:34 PM

Some interesting choices instead of the usual suspects from the archives. Brian Eno yodelling on Dutch TV, for one.

 

Looking forward to tonight's Eighties selections.

It was very odd seeing Lloyd Grossman on. I had no idea that he had been (in a very minor way) part of Rock history. To me he was just an annoying foodie.



#31 Northern Sol

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:36 PM

They were never the same after frontman and founding member Keith Floyd left to become a tv chef.

I used to work with a guy that used to work for Keith. He said that, in his view, he was a repressed homosexual that could never come to terms with his own sexuality and drank heavily as a result.

 

In which case "pink Floyd" would be very apt.


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#32 distantdog

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:41 PM

Each to their own I guess, but I find PF stuff to be soulless, pretentious, overblown conceptual claptrap. Though I can appreciate the musicianship.

I understand it's often the soundtrack to many a shared student joint which may explain some of it's enduring popularity in certain circles.

 

Interesting post, as I find PF to be the exact opposite. Some people assume that just because an artist or band has had huge success then this somehow invalidates their artistic credibility. I don't think PF fit this picture. I don't find them soulless(exactly the opposite) or overblown, though I can see how this accusation can be aimed at them.

Ironically, I find it strange that at the time of punk and the rise of the musical angry young man and woman, PF were producing intense and anger filled music which far outweighed that produced by punk in  my opinion.

The Wall and The Final Cut are hardly melodic love filled pieces!

What is interesting though is that this thread really proves how subjective and emotive music is.



#33 my missus

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:00 PM

"I understand it's often the soundtrack to many a shared student joint which may explain some of it's enduring popularity in certain circles"

 

This statement is like something i would have read about 40 years ago :smoke: .


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#34 808tone

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:33 PM

I used to work with a guy that used to work for Keith. He said that, in his view, he was a repressed homosexual that could never come to terms with his own sexuality and drank heavily as a result.

 

It which case "pink Floyd" would be very apt.

I love Keith Floyd but some times that did cross me mind at times...



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Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:55 PM

A lot of Floyd's music, the band not the chef, is very dark and cutting. Just because the musicianship is excellent doesn't make it any more pretentious than the pretend rebel's The Sex Pistols efforts.



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 08:15 AM

A lot of Floyd's music, the band not the chef, is very dark and cutting. Just because the musicianship is excellent doesn't make it any more pretentious than the pretend rebel's The Sex Pistols efforts.


Well to those of us around at the time the pistols, stranglers, clash etc were a down to earth back to basics relief from the tedium of the prog rock bores of who floyd were among the most tedious.

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#37 Wolford6

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 08:49 AM

I don't think many punk fans ever thought that the Sex Pistols were a "genuine" band; they had some great songs and cocked a snook at the music business and media.

 

For me, the archetypal punk bands are the Ramones and the Clash. However, the great thing about punk wasn't the fact that there were megastar punk bands; it was that enthusiastic amateurs with attitude were welcome to have a go at forming bands and making records. The dinosaurs had to move over and give the new kids some space.


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#38 Futtocks

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 09:49 AM

It was very odd seeing Lloyd Grossman on. I had no idea that he had been (in a very minor way) part of Rock history. To me he was just an annoying foodie.

As well as being the 'Rolling Stone' journalist who wrote the original review of Pink Floyd's 'Dark Side of the Moon', he's been in bands himself. Last time I saw him on screen with Danny Baker, he finished the interview by strapping on a guitar and doing a Kinks song. Rather well.

 

And there's this...

 


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#39 Griff9of13

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 10:20 AM

I don't think many punk fans ever thought that the Sex Pistols were a "genuine" band; they had some great songs and cocked a snook at the music business and media.

 

For me, the archetypal punk bands are the Ramones and the Clash. However, the great thing about punk wasn't the fact that there were megastar punk bands; it was that enthusiastic amateurs with attitude were welcome to have a go at forming bands and making records. The dinosaurs had to move over and give the new kids some space.

 

Exactly. The punk thing was about a sea change in attitude to making music typified by this:

 

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Which was really a reincarnation of the post Lonnie Donegan era of the mid to late 50s that saw a huge amount of young guys picking up a guitar and having a go for themselves.


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 12:39 PM

The Sex Pistols were very much a real band - there has been a big myth built up around Mclaren and how they were his puppets but it just isn't true. The reason John Lydon ended up leaving was precisely because he wouldn't do what he wanted. Jones and Cook were just rock and rollers after a good time but were no idiots. Sid was MMs attempt to mould the band and failed spectacularly. Things like the Bill Grundy incident had absolutely nothing to do with MM and going on tv and acting like that was setting yourself up to be public enemy #1. They were attacked several times and Lydon still bears the scars.
No I am afraid people are guilty of believing a lot of myths about them.




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