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#41 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 10:36 AM

Only problem with that is if you have children going to school in different areas. Or parents who are teachers teaching in different areas to their children and then having different holidays. I know growing up my brother and I went to schools in different LEAs and my parents both taught in another one each, with maximum separation of about 40 miles between us.

As with most problems of this nature,there won't be a solution to suit everyone.


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#42 SE4Wire

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 11:06 AM

As with most problems of this nature,there won't be a solution to suit everyone.

My point was more that it would probably make the problem worse as rather than being a financial benefit it could be that the only way to have holiday time together would be to take the children out of school or at least one of them due to lack of overlap. Either that or it would condense the peak season to the period of various areas' overlap of holiday making the premium for these super-peak times even higher. Law of unintended consequences has a habit of biting you on the bum.

My personal view is that this isn't a problem that needs solving. There's always going to be a peak season with higher prices then (and therefore lower prices in the off peak periods, don't forget that) and in a capitalist society supply and demand is always going to have an impact.

Edited by SE4Wire, 27 February 2014 - 11:12 AM.


#43 LEEDSLADGONE SOUTH

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 01:13 PM

If you can't afford it don't go, or chose somewhere more affordable. Being pulled out of school because your parents believe it's their right to a holiday abroad was unheard of when I was a kid in the 80's. 



#44 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 02:11 PM

If you can't afford it don't go, or chose somewhere more affordable. Being pulled out of school because your parents believe it's their right to a holiday abroad was unheard of when I was a kid in the 80's. 

No one has said it is their right to foreign holidays,just that people shouldn't be held to ransom by holiday companies,again,would you be willing to pay an extra £2500 for the same holiday a few weeks later?


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#45 Just Browny

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 02:12 PM

I went to Bridgewater, happy days.


I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.


#46 gingerjon

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 02:33 PM

No one has said it is their right to foreign holidays,just that people shouldn't be held to ransom by holiday companies,again,would you be willing to pay an extra £2500 for the same holiday a few weeks later?

 

If people weren't prepared to pay it the companies wouldn't charge it.


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#47 1976PMJwires

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 02:35 PM

I went to Bridgewater, happy days.


A great school, I left in 1992, what about yourself?

#48 1976PMJwires

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 02:40 PM

If you can't afford it don't go, or chose somewhere more affordable. Being pulled out of school because your parents believe it's their right to a holiday abroad was unheard of when I was a kid in the 80's.

Rubbish, it's always happened.


Just to be clear !!

I can afford, I've saved up for it!!

2500k saved, means no debt to come back too.

I know I'm wrong in what I'm doing, however I'm doing it with no regrets.

I can put the savings to an Xmas holiday in the school holidays


Just hope no school goes on strike, as I won't be able to pay child care.

Edited by 1976PMJwires, 27 February 2014 - 02:41 PM.


#49 Just Browny

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 02:48 PM

A great school, I left in 1992, what about yourself?

 

1997-2002, then another two years in Sixth Form. It was always a good school, although I was and remain bitter about the way they ignored the presence of rugby league in the town.


I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly.


#50 Ackroman

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 02:48 PM

Academy schools can already alter term times if they want and this can cause a major headache if you have more than one child at school and a massive headache if the kids are in infants, junior and high school as mine will be. Often it's not about avoiding an expensive holiday, it's about not having a choice.

 

Further, modern education is so far removed from the 80's (I refer to a post above) that it is unreal. These days education is achieved through many varied ways that by-pass the classroom and parents are involved far more now than then. Academy schools can specialise, federate with other schools and taylor curriculums. For that reason I believe parents have a right to determine what their kids are exposed to and should be given time allowance each year to educate their kids as they see fit. If this is a foreign holiday then great. It's just as valuable as a week or so working in an office.



#51 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 03:00 PM

If people weren't prepared to pay it the companies wouldn't charge it.

Do you have a solution,instead of the blatantly obvious statements you keep posting.


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#52 1976PMJwires

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 03:16 PM

1997-2002, then another two years in Sixth Form. It was always a good school, although I was and remain bitter about the way they ignored the presence of rugby league in the town.


100% agree

Went to the middle ones, first parents evening last night.
PE Teacher said he's doing well in all areas, however his rugby has improved the most, still playing union though.

I said its still a shame they continue to play union in a league town. Teacher wasn't interested.


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#53 LEEDSLADGONE SOUTH

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 05:09 PM

Academy schools can already alter term times if they want and this can cause a major headache if you have more than one child at school and a massive headache if the kids are in infants, junior and high school as mine will be. Often it's not about avoiding an expensive holiday, it's about not having a choice.

 

Further, modern education is so far removed from the 80's (I refer to a post above) that it is unreal. These days education is achieved through many varied ways that by-pass the classroom and parents are involved far more now than then. Academy schools can specialise, federate with other schools and taylor curriculums. For that reason I believe parents have a right to determine what their kids are exposed to and should be given time allowance each year to educate their kids as they see fit. If this is a foreign holiday then great. It's just as valuable as a week or so working in an office.

Is this why schools are turning out record numbers of kids with no ##### clue?  I've learnt plenty of things on holiday, but I'm struggling to think how they've enhanced my career prospects



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 07:35 PM

Teachers are special as any teacher will tell you.


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#55 Ackroman

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 09:36 AM

Is this why schools are turning out record numbers of kids with no ##### clue?  I've learnt plenty of things on holiday, but I'm struggling to think how they've enhanced my career prospects

 

The only issue I see is the nannying of children by the state. It won't be long before kids will leave school at 18 blinking into the sunlight thinking wtf?

 

However I don't think you're being honest about what a holiday teaches us if your parents understand how hard they are to save for and why you have holidays in the first place. Foreign languages, currency and cuisine (I refer to Blackpool here), communication, new experiences, history, travel, you name it. Holidays are also a great socialising experience preventing inward thinking, promoting acceptance etc. Unless you own a one man mine I don't know how you could avoid using these skills in any career.



#56 JohnM

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 01:06 PM

The only issue I see is the nannying of children by the state. It won't be long before kids will leave school at 18 blinking into the sunlight thinking wtf?

 

However I don't think you're being honest about what a holiday teaches us if your parents understand how hard they are to save for and why you have holidays in the first place. Foreign languages, currency and cuisine (I refer to Blackpool here), communication, new experiences, history, travel, you name it. Holidays are also a great socialising experience preventing inward thinking, promoting acceptance etc. Unless you own a one man mine I don't know how you could avoid using these skills in any career.

 

 Sounds like Florida!



#57 Padge

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 08:48 PM

I hope you are going somehwere interesting, you can then claim they are receiving education by learning about ancient Greece or the Roman Empire, Benidorm* doesn't quite swing it.

 

*Just noticed your getting them fat on burgers and teaching them that Mickey Mouse has ruled the World since 1927, take the fine.


Edited by Padge, 02 March 2014 - 08:52 PM.


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#58 terrywebbisgod

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 11:09 AM

Just by going to Epcot you'll learn about a dozen different nations.The Kennedy Space Centre brilliant but if you take the tour,take the extended one,it includes the ISS.


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