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#1 craig hamilton

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 10:55 AM

My grandmother died last August and I was left a cap that belonged to her Grandfather. I was always under the impression that it was for rugby but after having contacted the RFL and the RFU, I have not been able to pinpoint what sport it is for.

 

I initially though that it was for football as it has 'AFC' on it but Tony Collins informed me that he has checked the football almanac but to no avail. It also has 'CC' on it, could this mean 'cycling club'?

 

 

If anyone would could shed any light on this I would be very grateful.

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#2 gingerjon

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 12:57 PM

What nationality was your (great great?) grandfather?


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#3 Methven Hornet

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 01:04 PM

Any clues? Where did he live? What were his sporting interests?

CC could have been cricket club.


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#4 Futtocks

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 01:09 PM

Any clues? Where did he live? What were his sporting interests?

CC could have been cricket club.

It could have been a sports club that had cricket (Summer) and football (Winter) teams, I suppose.

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#5 craig hamilton

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 02:48 PM

What nationality was your (great great?) grandfather?

 English. He came from Cumberland.

 

 

Any clues? Where did he live? What were his sporting interests?

CC could have been cricket club.

 

That could make sense as he came from Baggrow (a village near Aspatria) and there is a cricket club- Baggrow & Blennerhasset CC.



#6 Futtocks

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 03:05 PM

Do you fancy going on 'Antiques Roadshow'?


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#7 Futtocks

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:11 PM

So close, but the date is wrong! The Cannock & Rugely Cricket Club logo: 1337874421.jpg

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#8 SE4Wire

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 07:40 PM

The 1891 could be year the cap was awarded as opposed to club founded.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 09:32 PM

 English. He came from Cumberland.

 

 

That could make sense as he came from Baggrow (a village near Aspatria) and there is a cricket club- Baggrow & Blennerhasset CC.

 

Do you know if he moved about Cumberland.  When I saw the initials I thought of Crosby Ravensworth Cricket Club (or Cycling Club).  Crosby Ravensworth is a small village near Shap, probably about 40 miles away from Baggrow.  Just looked in a directory of Cumberland villages and cant see any other villages starting with C R.


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#10 WearyRhino

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 11:53 AM

Well Aspatria FC (FC was routinely used for Rugby without an 'R' as it was just a code of 'football' - I understand they still do it in Hull!) won the Cumberland County Cup (Cumberland Rugby County Cup? CRCC? ) in 1891.

See here for my source http://en.m.wikipedi...n_(rugby_union)

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#11 SE4Wire

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 12:42 PM

Well Aspatria FC (FC was routinely used for Rugby without an 'R' as it was just a code of 'football) won the Cumberland County Cup (Cumberland Rugby County Cup?) in 1891.

See here for my source http://en.m.wikipedi...n_(rugby_union)


Mate, that is some corking Google fu.

#12 WearyRhino

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 02:36 PM

Mate, that is some corking Google fu.


Is that good or bad? It really wasn't that difficult to put "Cumberland Rugby 1891" into Google!

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#13 SE4Wire

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 06:12 PM

Is that good or bad? It really wasn't that difficult to put "Cumberland Rugby 1891" into Google!


No, that was a definite compliment. I was searching for similar things but didn't get anywhere. Impressed that you seemed to work out the magic search term. Using google well is pretty rare, people at work sometimes that me like some sort of witchdoctor for having an idea how to get answers quickly.

#14 craig hamilton

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 09:58 AM

Do you fancy going on 'Antiques Roadshow'?

 

No- face for radio, I'm afraid.

 

The 1891 could be year the cap was awarded as opposed to club founded.

 

Good point

 

Do you know if he moved about Cumberland.  When I saw the initials I thought of Crosby Ravensworth Cricket Club (or Cycling Club).  Crosby Ravensworth is a small village near Shap, probably about 40 miles away from Baggrow.  Just looked in a directory of Cumberland villages and cant see any other villages starting with C R.

 

No idea but a very good suggestion.

 

 

Thanks for all your replies.



#15 shaun mc

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 11:07 PM

Its not a Cumberland cap

http://www.ebay.co.u...=p2047675.l2557

Teneous link to Cannock and Rugeley Cricket club - some coal miners from Cumberland did work in the Staffordshire mines. My uncle did in Rugeley.
So not impossible that it could have come from there

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#16 craig hamilton

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 10:47 AM

Further to my initial post, I have discovered what it is.

It was our (Aspatria Hornets RL) presentation in October and we held it at Aspatria RUFC. Whilst we were setting up the room, I noticed a display they had contained two identical caps and the information said they were County Cup winners caps from 1891. Therefore I deduce that the initials must stand for the following:

CR CC = Cumberland Rugby County Cup
AFC= Aspatria Football Club

Anyway, I thought that I’d post it since people were good enough to reply to my initial enquiry.

#17 Futtocks

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 11:00 AM

Further to my initial post, I have discovered what it is.

It was our (Aspatria Hornets RL) presentation in October and we held it at Aspatria RUFC. Whilst we were setting up the room, I noticed a display they had contained two identical caps and the information said they were County Cup winners caps from 1891. Therefore I deduce that the initials must stand for the following:

CR CC = Cumberland Rugby County Cup
AFC= Aspatria Football Club

Anyway, I thought that I’d post it since people were good enough to reply to my initial enquiry.

I'd forgotten this thread - thanks for updating us.


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#18 Old Frightful

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 11:09 AM

I think he could have been awarded it for being in the Aspatria team that won the Cumberland Rugby County Cup in 189.....

 

Oh, you've already found this out.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 11:48 AM

Further to my initial post, I have discovered what it is.

It was our (Aspatria Hornets RL) presentation in October and we held it at Aspatria RUFC. Whilst we were setting up the room, I noticed a display they had contained two identical caps and the information said they were County Cup winners caps from 1891. Therefore I deduce that the initials must stand for the following:

CR CC = Cumberland Rugby County Cup
AFC= Aspatria Football Club

Anyway, I thought that I’d post it since people were good enough to reply to my initial enquiry.

 

That's what I said isn't it?


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#20 craig hamilton

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Posted 10 November 2014 - 01:51 PM

That's what I said isn't it?

Yes- thanks for the reminder. To be honest, I probably should have listened to you back in March. A case of overthinking.






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