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#21 JohnM

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 10:25 AM

In any case both BBC 3 and BBC 4 don't start till 7 pm, IIRC

 

Instead of developing content to fit the time avaialble, how about developing content to fit the budget?



#22 Futtocks

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 10:35 AM

In any case both BBC 3 and BBC 4 don't start till 7 pm, IIRC

 

Instead of developing content to fit the time avaialble, how about developing content to fit the budget?

The BBC3 and BBC4 frequencies are used for CBBC and CBeebies during the day, even though they have a different channel number on your EPG.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 02:43 PM

Hmm...

 

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#24 Steve May

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:04 PM

BBC3 shows some absolutely dreadful TV that wouldn't get made on commercial TV because it's so totally asinine. 

 

You've not watched much commercial TV then?


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#25 Steve May

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:08 PM

In the digital world I can't see why the BBC can't use it's online presence to debut new comedies and so on.  Anything that turns out to be good can be moved onto BBC2, which often has space fillers on anyway.

 

In fact, I can't see why the BBC doesn't ramp up the iplayer to make it a proper fee-paying service to people outside the UK.  They have a vast archive of content, much of it of a quality that would blow Netflix out of the water.


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#26 Steve May

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:08 PM

Hmm...

 

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Seems a very sensible plan!


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:09 PM

The BBC3 and BBC4 frequencies are used for CBBC and CBeebies during the day, even though they have a different channel number on your EPG.

 

Those two channels should be sacrosanct.  It's wonderful to have advert free TV for children IMO.


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#28 Futtocks

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:10 PM

Seems a very sensible plan!

BBC3 is aimed at a yoof audience, who are the most likely to watch more TV programmes online than any other, so yes.

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:39 PM

BBC3 is aimed at a yoof audience, who are the most likely to watch more TV programmes online than any other, so yes.

 

It does seem to make sense.  I can't imagine my daughter ever really watching TV in the way we did as kids - at set times, dictated to by the channel.

 

I have to admit that we watch less and less live TV.   We're currently working our way through the Netflix catalogue.  Between that, the downloads off Sky, the Iplayer and 4OD probably the only thing we actually watch live is sport.   And even that tends to be on a fifteen or twenty minute delay to avoid ads and the half time dribble.


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 03:46 PM

I must be old-fashioned! To me, television is something of the moment, and I very rarely resort to iPlayer and the like for something I have missed, unless it is something I really really wanted to watch.

 

Radio, on the other hand, is different. I've spent plenty of time searching out episodes of things I've missed, especially classic comedy shows.


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#31 Steve May

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:01 PM

I must be old-fashioned! To me, television is something of the moment, and I very rarely resort to iPlayer and the like for something I have missed, unless it is something I really really wanted to watch.

 

Radio, on the other hand, is different. I've spent plenty of time searching out episodes of things I've missed, especially classic comedy shows.

 

It's only since I got a set of Airplay speakers at Christmas that I've really found radio to work on the internet.  The new BBC radio app is really good and the whole things works like a dream out of the box.  Frankly, there isn't much radio outside the BBC that's worth a damn, although some podcasts are quite good.

 

Fast enough broadband to make it possible for someone to watch TV while someone else in the house worked or listened to the radio only arrived in our village late last summer.   Before that, the radio would drop out if an email arrived and TV programmes needed to download for twenty minutes before you could start watching them. 


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#32 Futtocks

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:08 PM

Frankly, there isn't much radio outside the BBC that's worth a damn, although some podcasts are quite good.

There are some good classical music stations online, from both Europe and the USA. My Dad's a total convert.

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#33 Futtocks

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:23 PM

Just remembered reading this in October, which could be what will take up BBC3's evening space on the national multiplex: BBC One to launch new +1 channel.

A +1 service is one area where the BBC haven't gone yet, compared to ITV, C4 etc.

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Posted 05 March 2014 - 05:51 PM

The BBC3 and BBC4 frequencies are used for CBBC and CBeebies during the day, even though they have a different channel number on your EPG.

Frequencies? How quaint in this digital world.

 

Still making BBC3 on line is at least a part solution. I wonder how it  will affect programme costs.



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 08:02 PM

I must be old-fashioned! To me, television is something of the moment, and I very rarely resort to iPlayer and the like for something I have missed, unless it is something I really really wanted to watch.

 

Me too. 



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Posted 06 March 2014 - 12:34 AM

Frequencies? How quaint in this digital world.

 

Still making BBC3 on line is at least a part solution. I wonder how it  will affect programme costs.

Frequencies are quite important in the digital world. 


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Posted 06 March 2014 - 08:48 AM

It's only since I got a set of Airplay speakers at Christmas that I've really found radio to work on the internet.  The new BBC radio app is really good and the whole things works like a dream out of the box.  Frankly, there isn't much radio outside the BBC that's worth a damn, although some podcasts are quite good.

 

Fast enough broadband to make it possible for someone to watch TV while someone else in the house worked or listened to the radio only arrived in our village late last summer.   Before that, the radio would drop out if an email arrived and TV programmes needed to download for twenty minutes before you could start watching them. 

 

 Frankly, there isn't much radio outside the BBC that's worth a damn, although some podcasts are quite good.

 

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 08:56 AM

Frequencies are quite important in the digital world. 

 

quite so, but not in the conventional sense of one channel per frequency. http://www.ukfree.tv...ryid=1107051920

 

However, the point is that by switching  from terrestrial to on-line transmission is not going to make much dent in the costs, in my view. For the BBC to recover the £100 million it wasted on the DMI , on excessive pay and pay-offs etc, it will have to reduce the costs of producing  content. 



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Posted 06 March 2014 - 09:02 AM

quite so, but not in the conventional sense of one channel per frequency. http://www.ukfree.tv...ryid=1107051920

 

However, the point is that by switching  from terrestrial to on-line transmission is not going to make much dent in the costs, in my view. For the BBC to recover the £100 million it wasted on the DMI , on excessive pay and pay-offs etc, it will have to reduce the costs of producing  content. 

 

Online production tends to be lower quality and shorter and with less in the way of repeat fees to pay out.


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Posted 06 March 2014 - 09:40 AM

Frequencies? How quaint in this digital world.

Okay, they share the same multiplex slot on each of the UK broadcast regions.

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