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Budget 2014 (Merged threads)


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#1 WearyRhino

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 10:53 AM

Here's something to keep in mind on Tuesday, when he's telling you how well he's doing: Osborne has borrowed more in 3 years than Labour did in 13: £430.072 billion compared to £429.975 billion

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 11:04 AM

Considering the financial crash happened with two years left of the labour parliament and the coalition have been in.power.for four years during the.continuing recession and.start.of recovery id say that stat is misleading

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 11:32 AM

Considering the financial crash happened with two years left of the labour parliament and the coalition have been in.power.for four years during the.continuing recession and.start.of recovery id say that stat is misleading


Are you saying the stat is untrue? That Osbourne has not borrowed more than Labour did in less than a quarter of the time?

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 11:35 AM

Are you saying the stat is untrue? That Osbourne has not borrowed more than Labour did in less than a quarter of the time?


Im not doubting the validity. Im saying to make the comparison is misleading

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 12:23 PM

I hope he didn't borrow that from Wonga, the interest will be shocking.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 12:25 PM

I am no Tory apologist, but it is hard to see how any government could have failed to borrow less than Labour did, given the state of the public finances. What were they supposed to do? Reduce public sector wages by 50%, same with pensions, and benefits? Yeah, that would have worked.

There's probably a case for saying Osborne has had to borrow more than he should have done, but the original claim is silly.

And Osborne's Office for Budget Responsibility will 'adjust' the figures anyway..


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Posted 16 March 2014 - 09:30 PM

Osborne has made continual claims that he is reducing borrowing (not in so few words), he is a liar.



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Posted 16 March 2014 - 09:39 PM

Osborne has made continual claims that he is reducing borrowing (not in so few words), he is a liar.

 

I'm not doubting your word that he is, but what are the annual figures for borrowing while he has been Chancellor?


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 01:36 PM

Doesn't pay to be anybody but a rich pensioner, it seems.


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 01:41 PM

Do tell!

#11 Bedford Roughyed

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 01:47 PM

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Edited by Bedford Roughyed, 19 March 2014 - 01:47 PM.

With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 01:49 PM

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With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 01:56 PM

Why isn't that nice Mr Balls doing the rebuttal?

 

I've never understood that bit of Parliamentary practice.


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 01:57 PM

Why isn't that nice Mr Balls doing the rebuttal?

 

Because it was a party political response.


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#15 Bedford Roughyed

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 02:01 PM

Because it was a party political response.

And doesn't it seem to have much comment on the actual budget...


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 02:05 PM

And doesn't it seem to have much comment on the actual budget...

 

I have no problem with that.  It's a technical budget and shouting a response 10 minutes after hearing it is a nonsense.  Far, far better to make the points he did.  That does need to be followed up with proper attacks (if there are any to be made) on the substance.


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#17 Bedford Roughyed

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 02:08 PM

I have no problem with that.  It's a technical budget and shouting a response 10 minutes after hearing it is a nonsense.  Far, far better to make the points he did.  That does need to be followed up with proper attacks (if there are any to be made) on the substance.

True, but the nodding head trick is so... last year


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

#18 gingerjon

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 02:15 PM

True, but the nodding head trick is so... last year

 

I thought it was quite funny.


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 02:50 PM

And doesn't it seem to have much comment on the actual budget...

 

Apparently, according to the Twitterarty, Ed Milliband was not given a redacted copy of the budget by Gideon an hour or so in advance as is customary for him to draft a rebuttal based on the budget. 


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 04:06 PM

Seems to be a spot of "Don't panic, Mr Mainwaring" in the stock market.  Insurers and bookies finding their shares worth substantially less than they were before Gideon opened his mouth.


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