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#1 ckn

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 09:16 AM

I find for once I agree with Michael Vaughan on cricket, although I wish he'd been a bit harder.  Trott should be openly censured, much like Pietersen was, over this incident alone.

 

Slinking off from Australia pretending "depression" when he was just caught out as being not very good, then when he's nice and safely back home and wanting to play again he says he wasn't depressed and wasn't a "nutcase" or "crazy".

 

 


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Posted 17 March 2014 - 12:04 PM

Typical Michael Vaughan article.

 

No matter what is the supposed topic, he always brings it back to himself. Could be summed up as 'let's all feel sorry for the struggles Michael Vaughan had and that Trott bloke is something of a fraud'.

 

The Sky documentary was a really good examination and explanation of Trott's mindset in Australia. He  felt at a loss and worthless to the team; he couldn't sleep and was getting constant headaches. He baled out for the sake of his health. Whether he actually had "official medical" depression is irrelevant. He was unfit to carry on.


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#3 Northern Sol

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:06 PM

 

 

The Sky documentary was a really good examination and explanation of Trott's mindset in Australia. He  felt at a loss and worthless to the team; he couldn't sleep and was getting constant headaches. He baled out for the sake of his health. Whether he actually had "official medical" depression is irrelevant. He was unfit to carry on.

To be honest. I don't think even doctors can see whether somone has depression or is just "down in the dumps" just by talking to them. It's hard to say whether Trott was or was not depressed. The fact that is rather insensitive about mental illness doesn't mean he wasn't genuinely ill.



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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:08 PM

To be honest. I don't think even doctors can see whether somone has depression or is just "down in the dumps" just by talking to them. It's hard to say whether Trott was or was not depressed. The fact that is rather insensitive about mental illness doesn't mean he wasn't genuinely ill.

Some people who are clearly seriously depressed will insist that it's nothing other than a mild case of the grumps, refusing to admit that they're ill and seeing it as a weakness.


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#5 Northern Sol

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:51 PM

Some people who are clearly seriously depressed will insist that it's nothing other than a mild case of the grumps, refusing to admit that they're ill and seeing it as a weakness.

Probably most people. Not many people, blokes, especially, wish to admit that they have a mental illness. 



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Posted 17 March 2014 - 01:59 PM

Probably most people. Not many people, blokes, especially, wish to admit that they have a mental illness. 

Which is why the sport campaigns such as State of Mind are so important.


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Posted 17 March 2014 - 07:20 PM

Which is why the sport campaigns such as State of Mind are so important.

Maybe they are a small minority. Snapping out of such things might be possible, in some rare cases. Then again. I often think those who claim to have been depressed then managed to snap out of it, are probably attention seekers.


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