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#1 ckn

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 05:36 PM

Daily Mail article plus the more objective ONS release

 

Essentially, if you were born in Bradford between 2010 and 2012, you can exceed your healthy life expectancy* 10 years before you are expected to retire.  You then have about 5-6 years maximum of unhealthy life before you're expected to die after you retire.  A lot of rugby league places in the top quarter of those figures.

 

Caution: these are statistics... trust in them at your own peril. especially the analysis given in the first link.

 

* "Healthy life" is a subjective analysis of someone's health being favourable rather than unfavourable.


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Posted 21 March 2014 - 08:26 PM

My god is life expectancy in Bradford really only 52 years?

That's Victorian, it's really shocked me
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Posted 21 March 2014 - 09:43 PM

One of my great grandmothers lived until 103 another to 97. All my grandparents made it to at least their mid 70s, with the last one surviving until she was 96. All of them born and raised in mill towns either side of the Pennines and all born before the first world war. 


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Posted 21 March 2014 - 10:09 PM

My god is life expectancy in Bradford really only 52 years?

That's Victorian, it's really shocked me

No, life expectancy for a man in Bradford is 73.  The 52 figure is the "healthy life" expectancy charts, that's how many years of your life you can expect to be healthier than not.  You have to be careful how you read things like this in newspapers because they do like to sensationalise it.


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Posted 21 March 2014 - 11:00 PM

The whole Daily Mail article is a mish mash of confusing charts and statistics.

 

I think most people suspect why the projected healthy-lifetime for babies born in Bradford is so poor, but no-one in the press wants to spell it out.


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Posted 21 March 2014 - 11:11 PM

The whole Daily Mail article is a mish mash of confusing charts and statistics.

I think most people suspect why the projected healthy-lifetime for babies born in Bradford is so poor, but no-one in the press wants to spell it out.


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Posted 21 March 2014 - 11:39 PM

The whole Daily Mail article is a mish mash of confusing charts and statistics.

 

I think most people suspect why the projected healthy-lifetime for babies born in Bradford is so poor, but no-one in the press wants to spell it out.

Poor diet? booze? Cigs?


With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 11:45 PM

Poor diet? booze? Cigs?

No, supporting Bradford Bulls.  It'll shorten anyone's lifespan having to eat the food out of those stalls.


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#9 Wolford6

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 01:47 AM

Poor diet? booze? Cigs?

 

Not much booze.

;)

 

Seriously:

 

1. The stats refer to births in "Bradford City", inferring that it does not include the satellite towns. A majority of the housing areas inside the Bradford ring road comprises aged (Victorian era)  houses occupied by ethnic Muslim residents (by choice), students (by prefence), East European immigrants (by circumstance), plus a large number of council flats.

 

2. The city also has a drug problem (and industry) that is concentrated within the ring road.

 

3. There are documented issues of a higher rate congenital birth-defects occurring as a result of historic inter-marriage between Muslim cousins.

 

4. The Muslim and immigrant social groups  tend to have more children per family than (modern) Christian families. This includes  a significant proportion of babies born to ladies of more mature years.

 

Common gossip has it that more than half the children born in Bradford are Muslim.

Nationally; 0.5% of over-85-year-olds are Muslim, 9% of babies are Muslim.

 

 

http://www.telegraph...gures-show.html

 

5. In places such as West Bowling, you can borrow the money to buy a 3-bedroomed house in good condition for £60,000, rent it out to immigrants or indigenous claimants and the council will pay the rent at a rate that easily covers the finance repayments.

http://www.rightmove...sChannel=buying

 

6. As a result of these factors, babies born in this area are more likely than suburbanites to have a disadvantaged start, to start school not speaking English, have a family environment that is not committed to education, to end up without a career or trade. The ONS Report ereflects this.

 

I suspect the healthy-lifetime stats for babies from, Ilkley, Shipley, Baildon, Bingley etc ... all towns within Bradford Metropolitan District and all having higher property-prices ... look much more rosy.

 

7. Two things for sure:

 -  the council will block or fudge any release of figures that show a marked difference between the suburbs and the centre.

 - no contributory figures for ethnic or religious sub-groups will be released.

 

8. I fully expect the right-ons to sneer and castigate both me this post. After all, maybe it is better to label someone a racist  than to actually do something to give current and future generations of these kids a better chance.


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 02:03 AM

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With the best, thats a good bit of PR, though I would say the Bedford team, theres, like, you know, 13 blokes who can get together at the weekend to have a game together, which doesnt point to expansion of the game. Point, yeah go on!

#11 Wolford6

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 07:08 AM

Yes, but there is no winner.


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Posted 22 March 2014 - 08:23 AM

Wolford is sadly, pretty much spot on.

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 12:59 PM

The whole Daily Mail article is a mish mash of confusing charts and statistics.

 

I think most people suspect why the projected healthy-lifetime for babies born in Bradford is so poor, but no-one in the press wants to spell it out.

 

You'd think the Mail would love to.


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