Sorry if this is a bit long or people dont understand what I am saying but here goes. Why would I expect or want Bradford fans todesert the Bulls to follow Fax or any other team? The problems at Halifax are the result of poor management from people at the club. The club is very lucky to still exist. The decisions from the RFL over the years have not helped. At the end of the day Halifax didnt deserve or earn the right to be in SL. The same can be said of Bradford or any other club thats got itself in deep trouble. Painful as it was, the club has benefitted greatly by rebuilding outside of SL and is in a much better state than in 2003 when it was relegated. I see no point in having clubs pretending they should be in SL when they have not earned it and bring nothing but problems to the table. I dont see how Bradford for example have earned the right to be in SL the past 2 years and the lies and deceit just make it worse. I personally dont see the point of having clubs that are in a mess over a long period of time staying in SL at the expense of say Featherstone who are doing things properly. What Bradford or any other club did in Sl 5-10 years ago is irrelevant for me. Its the here and now that is important and what they bring. Featherstone and Sheffield may or may not struggle in SL. If they are thinking mid to long term then they will budget for a relegation and if they stay up then its a bonus. The problems often in RL is the short term thinking rather than the mid to long term thinking. I just feel Championship clubs have been hindered to a degree by SL clubs and the RFL by this short term thinking. Would Fax, Fev etc struggle in SL? Maybe but least they have earned the right to be there. The license era for me is one where lies and deceit reigned as clubs like Bradford, Wakefield, Crusaders, London, Cas, Salford did anything to stay in SL. Other Championship clubs were not treated fairly and I fail to see how Bradford, Crusaders, Wakefield, Salford were all considered good enough for SL and yet all had severe problems which were ignored or overlooked. Friends of mine were left deeply out of pocket at clubs like Crusaders due to the lies and deceit. I fail to see how these clubs can be classed OK and yet Fax for example were one month considered good enough but then 3 months later were classed as not good enough and lambasted for the finances. I know fans who follow various clubs others feel the same about this
The leadership of SL and the RFL has created a very poor enviroment where there is no stability, unity or even positive future to look forward to. Clubs are happy to vote on short term decisions and damage the future. Clubs are willing to put token effort in for the future and would rather lie, use deceit and put all hope in Short term success. The leadership at the top is missing and the game instead of sticking with a mid to long term plan would rather think short term and keep changing things because certain people are not happy. Changes made/voted on with no real thought about what and how the changes will actually improve the game for everybody not just select few. I currently dont want my club in SL because I dont think its in its bests interests to be there. SL is seen as some last hope of survival by clubs and fans when it should not be. The Championships both have alot to offer but many dont want to be there and see clubs relegated in to it. I would suggest the Championship offer far more stability to a club than SL. I would also suggest a club has more chance to sort itself out and plan properly for the future than in Sl where short term thinking is in abundance. Crowds would drop for any club in Sl droipping down. But it also it could be a massive way forward for Bradford and/or London to regroup and plan for the mid to long term future in SL. Somebody coming in at Bradford, London etc and throwing money around is not the answer to the clubs future or sorting its problems out. You need a framework of where you want to be heading in 5 or 10 years and how you will go about it and not overstretch yourself. The problem is because SL/RFL have no idea on where they are going, then its tough for clubs who are looking to plan mid to long term to do it. If Bradford or London etc knew the new structures coming in will be the same in 5 or 10 years then they could plan for that. But frankly I cant see that and I doubt the clubs can either. And so clubs keep this short term thinking and hoping and begging to be/stay in SL
No reason for you to apologise for a long post. There's nothing in the rules about lengths of posts. As for understanding you, I've never had any problem. Post away, great stuff......
I don't agree for one second that going into the Championship should ever be a policy decision. I think that it may well be an inevitability of clubs "cutting their cloth", a laudable policy, so they run up no more debt. But to give up on £millions of SKY money, to give up on most of your supporters, and to stop providing the profile your sponsors want to invest in is madness if it is a deliberate act. By the very nature of deliberately knocking down the SKY money, fan base and sponsor base those very same elements then have to be built back up again.
For Bradford I'd agree they should spend to what they have got to a point but if Mr. Green wishes to inject capital (he'll never see back and knows that) to add three or four good players why should he not do that? Which would be better - to escape relegation and start again in SL next year, or to just accept the drop. Those are as we say plans "A" and "Z".
You suggest the Championships offer "stability" but how do they?. The Championships have seen falling crowds for years that destabilise the clubs into dual registration, their better players are picked off by SL which destabilises the team, their SL neighbours offer much better deals to local advertisers and sponsors. In the end the shrinking of the championships business just leaves a bigger mountain to climb back up?
Where I do agree with you is your separate argument that clubs who don't perform must go, and another be given the chance.
But take care as the record is clear. Bradford were the ninth best team on the pitch in British Rugby League in 2013 and they were the sixth best supported.
Do you think they should have given way to any championship club this year on that record?
Absolutely not. Salford or London should have gone first.
Edited by The Parksider, 05 April 2014 - 03:39 PM.