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#1 Methven Hornet

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 11:43 PM

As is, of course, Wales.

 

For the first time in history, same sex couples will be able to make the ultimate commitment to each other. To all those who will take advantage of the new equal marriage legislation tomorrow, and in the future, CONGRATULATIONS!

And well done to all who helped make it possible; Scotland will be there soon.


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#2 WearyRhino

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 11:54 PM

Absoutely, congratulations to all the couples who can now get married because they love each other.

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 01:14 AM

I don't, and never have, understood the big push for gays to get married. Have they all suddenly started believing in god and now want approval or something?

NB I have been with my other half since 1986, have 3 kids and we aren't married. I couldn't care less what I *should* have done but hey, I am a rule breaker ;)

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 06:35 AM

As is, of course, Wales.

For the first time in history, same sex couples will be able to make the ultimate commitment to each other. To all those who will take advantage of the new equal marriage legislation tomorrow, and in the future, CONGRATULATIONS!

And well done to all who helped make it possible; Scotland will be there soon.


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Posted 29 March 2014 - 07:12 AM

The Catholics and Protestants are still arguing about which one of them is going to be for gay marriage and which one is going to be against it. They've agreed to have talks about having talks. Theresa May is due to fly in next week for the photo-opportunity.


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#6 Bostik Bailey

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 11:29 AM

I don't know what the fuss is about, me and the missus have been in a same sex marriage for nigh on 20 years. The sex has always been the same.

#7 Northern Sol

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 12:57 PM

The Catholics and Protestants are still arguing about which one of them is going to be for gay marriage and which one is going to be against it. They've agreed to have talks about having talks. Theresa May is due to fly in next week for the photo-opportunity.

Sinn Fein are in favour as they are a leftist party. The SDLP are a party of conservative religious minded Catholics and are against it as are the unionists.



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Posted 29 March 2014 - 01:33 PM

An article on this topic from Brian Sewell.

 

http://www.telegraph...y-marriage.html



#9 Grollo

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 03:59 PM

I don't, and never have, understood the big push for gays to get married. Have they all suddenly started believing in god and now want approval or something?

NB I have been with my other half since 1986, have 3 kids and we aren't married. I couldn't care less what I *should* have done but hey, I am a rule breaker ;)

Since when was marriage about anything about god? 


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#10 Johnoco

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 05:08 PM

Since when was marriage about anything about god?

Since it is a religious ceremony maybe?

#11 Grollo

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 05:35 PM

Since it is a religious ceremony maybe?

And when and where was that?

The fact is, you don't really know, do you. But don't let anyone from voicing your ill informed opinion.


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#12 Methven Hornet

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 05:57 PM

I don't, and never have, understood the big push for gays to get married. Have they all suddenly started believing in god and now want approval or something?

NB I have been with my other half since 1986, have 3 kids and we aren't married. I couldn't care less what I *should* have done but hey, I am a rule breaker ;)

The 'big push' for equal marriage has come from people who were previously denied the right previously. I don't think there has been a mass conversion to a belief in God, but then God isn't really the issue. There are planty of people who have no religious faith who are married, or are in favour of marriage.

Why the big push at this time? Well, I suppose if you've been campaigning for de-criminalisation, equal employment and pension rights, parity with the heterosexual age of consent, and against homophobic bullying, violence and legislation, marriage rights have to wait their turn.

I am a great believer in marriage for a number of reasons, but I understand that not all  people share that belief. I know plenty of people who have stable and successful relationships, with and without children, and their choice is as valid as mine. The point here is that people are no longer denied the opportunity to marry solely because the person they love and want to commit to is of the same sex.


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#13 Bostik Bailey

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 07:32 PM

The Catholics and Protestants are still arguing about which one of them is going to be for gay marriage and which one is going to be against it. They've agreed to have talks about having talks. Theresa May is due to fly in next week for the photo-opportunity.


And before we know it the Irish have new 'excuse' to kill each other.

#14 gingerjon

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 07:44 PM

Since it is a religious ceremony maybe?

 

Marriage hasn't been religious for about 150 years.  There was a spell when it was entirely religious - during this time most people did not get married.


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#15 Northern Sol

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 09:16 PM

The people I feel sorry for are those who shelled out for a civil partnership ceremony who will now get earache from their partner until they get "properly married".

 

Or is it only heterosexual relationships that run that way?



#16 RidingPie

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 09:27 PM

Marriage hasn't been religious for about 150 years. There was a spell when it was entirely religious - during this time most people did not get married.


And don't forget originally it had nothing to do with religion, but rather alliances and property.

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 09:29 PM

I genuinely feel sorry for those that do not even realise that their objections really come down to homophobia. The main objection is basically a semantic argument over the word 'marriage.' In reality many of them think that this will somehow lead to more homosexuals which they don't want. 

 

It is often religious people that are so against gay marriage which some people think makes it OK. However, when you see how clear Jesus was about the issue of divorce and how little they campaign about that, this argument falls apart. The majority of Christians in this country are in churches which allow divorce. What exactly is it about this specific issue of marriage that they take such a firm stance against? 

 

It's like they suspend their logic when it comes to this issue. On Question Time there was a woman from Christian Voices who started on about how their voice has been ignored despite a petition of 600k people. Firstly, they would only be classed as having listened to them if they gave in to them and secondly that amount of people isn't even 2% of the population. 



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Posted 29 March 2014 - 09:48 PM

Marriage isn't a word.

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#19 Methven Hornet

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 10:00 PM

An article on this topic from Brian Sewell.
 
http://www.telegraph...y-marriage.html

 
And another from Simon Callow.

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#20 Johnoco

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 11:41 PM

And when and where was that?
The fact is, you don't really know, do you. But don't let anyone from voicing your ill informed opinion.

I like it. I am ill informed because a troll on TRL says so. I don't need anyone to stamp my gay friendly credentials because I had them stamped many years ago - ask anyone. If you like, I will go out of my way to prove how gay friendly I am by mindlessly agreeing with any issue. Because as you know all homosexual people have little else to do besides wander round the house all day watching Larry Grayson.