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#1 Joe Whitley

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 12:36 PM

An exclusive courtesy of Rugby League World magazine: http://www.totalrl.c...-tour-go-ahead/

 

Nigel Wood: “We can’t invite ourselves to somebody else’s party - they have to decide that they’re having a party. We are hopeful that an invitation will be extended to tour as Great Britain in 2015.”


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 12:40 PM

Stupid idea.

 

Wood's continual wanting to turn the clock back will have us playing with 15 players and having rucks and mauls next.



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Posted 11 April 2014 - 12:44 PM

Stupid idea.

 

Wood's continual wanting to turn the clock back will have us playing with 15 players and having rucks and mauls next.

 

What worries me about the article is this quote:

 

"It’s fine playing as England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales separately – that’s the right thing to do to respect those individual nations and we certainly need to do that for World Cups."

 

Whilst he does mention about playing as GB once a cycle, that quote seems to point towards the old 'individual nations' concept of being rolled out in World Cup years only... hence your comment about turning the clock back is very apt!

 

I wonder if the WRL, SRL and IRL have been included in the decision making process of this GB idea considering the RFL washed their hands of funding them?


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#4 Joe Whitley

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 12:46 PM

Stupid idea.

 

Wood's continual wanting to turn the clock back will have us playing with 15 players and having rucks and mauls next.

 

I disagree. I think it can only be a good thing to bring back the GB tour. As long as nothing else suffers as a result of course.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 12:47 PM

What worries me about the article is this quote:
 
"It’s fine playing as England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales separately – that’s the right thing to do to respect those individual nations and we certainly need to do that for World Cups."
 
Whilst he does mention about playing as GB once a cycle, that quote seems to point towards the old 'individual nations' concept of being rolled out in World Cup years only... hence your comment about turning the clock back is very apt!

Hmmm, that does seem ominous.

 

I'm generally against the GB concept as I want the individual nations to develop. I can live with it being once a cycle though


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#6 Mushy

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 12:55 PM

I'm pretty sure you can have both GB for some tournaments and Eng etc for others. I think having no GB is wrong and might have actually weakened some of the other UK nations. But just playing as GB at least every 4 years (and maybe a little more often) is a great chance to celebrate our heritage, do something different, and unite against a common enemy!

Slightly more controversially though, I'd consider a mid-season GB tour to Oz. I think it would be amazing but would need serious planning mostly in the UK to make it work perhaps with split rounds or a break perhaps.

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 12:56 PM

I'm generally against the GB concept as I want the individual nations to develop. I can live with it being once a cycle though

 

That is exactly my viewpoint. I can live with it once a cycle but it fundamentally must not undermine the individual nation's competing regular as separate entities. This isn't 1990 anymore with Scotland potentially becoming independent in 2016 and Wales pushing for greater autonomy. It is backward thinking as ever from the RFL when the reality of modern day thinking is going in the opposite direction.


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#8 gingerjon

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 12:58 PM

No problem at all with a GB tour.  I think it's a nice concept and every few years is about right.

 

I have a big problem with it being April 2014 and there being nothing in place for next year and the RFL seemingly having to resort to pleading with the NRL to find some space in their diary to fit us in.


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#9 GeordieSaint

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 01:14 PM

I have a big problem with it being April 2014 and there being nothing in place for next year and the RFL seemingly having to resort to pleading with the NRL to find some space in their diary to fit us in.

 

Half the problem... they've only just released dates for this year's Four Nations so there isn't a cat-in-hells-chance anything for 2015 would be organised by now. We DESPERATELY need a real World Governing Body to grab hold of the game and start planning for the long term including International fixtures, eligiblity, rules etc etc. However, self interest at national club level rules...


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#10 londonrlfan

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 01:17 PM

If they're that desperate to have GB, then fine whatever but only quadrennial. What I can't stand is tours, GB should be competing in Four Nations type competitions as well. 



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Posted 11 April 2014 - 01:31 PM

We should be at home in 2015 full stop. To hide away from the other code's WC is ridiculous! The RUWC will be finished by October 31 - we have the whole of November without ANY international rugby.

 

Three Ashes tests versus Australia (Wembley Old Trafford plus 1) on November 7, 14 and 21 is an absolute no-brainer!



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Posted 11 April 2014 - 01:43 PM

We should be at home in 2015 full stop. To hide away from the other code's WC is ridiculous! The RUWC will be finished by October 31 - we have the whole of November without ANY international rugby.

 

Three Ashes tests versus Australia (Wembley Old Trafford plus 1) on November 7, 14 and 21 is an absolute no-brainer!

 

The whole '3 years without a home test' is interesting. Will we see the likes of OT and Wembley used in the 2016 Four Nations or will it be back to Huddersfield, Hull and Wigan (no offense to those grounds)? If it's the latter, then it shows how they've killed the supposed legacy from the WC. 



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Posted 11 April 2014 - 02:44 PM

The legacy has already been killed. Had to announce a year of fixtures and ride on the coat tails of that Wembley game. People will have forgotten about it in a years let alone three

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 02:50 PM

I disagree. I think it can only be a good thing to bring back the GB tour. As long as nothing else suffers as a result of course.

But IMO other things will suffer.
For Cliffs sake, stop trying to turn back the clock and *pretending*and just try to go forward for a change.
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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:14 PM

I disagree. I think it can only be a good thing to bring back the GB tour. As long as nothing else suffers as a result of course.

Of course the one thing to suffer will be the wonderful progress made in international rugby league in this country thanks to the marvellous world cup because we wont have another bloody international on these shores for three more years.

 

Ridiculous idea by Nigel Wood.  I hope the Aussies turn him down flat.



#16 Joe Whitley

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:17 PM

Some very interesting points here. I've argued the toss with another of our writers, if anyone wants to have a look: http://www.totalrl.c...tain-tour-2015/


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#17 Saintslass

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:20 PM

I can safely say that I totally disagree with you and totally agree with AB!



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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:31 PM

JW, galvanise the sport? I am guessing you didn't see England playing in front of sell out crowds last year and the passion on show at Wembley from both traditional and non-traditional fans? The passion for GB is a nostalgic trip into the past when people believe times were grand and captured everyone's imagination (it wasn't and didn't!). Last year proved we've moved on and AB is right stating the Aussies couldn't care less. It's about time we moved forwards, not backwards.

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:35 PM

That is exactly my viewpoint. I can live with it once a cycle but it fundamentally must not undermine the individual nation's competing regular as separate entities. This isn't 1990 anymore with Scotland potentially becoming independent in 2016 and Wales pushing for greater autonomy. It is backward thinking as ever from the RFL when the reality of modern day thinking is going in the opposite direction.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 03:51 PM

Lets not be pedantic about GB or UK definitions as you may wish to look up what countries actually constitute GB... My point in the previous post that last year's WC already galvanised the international game and showed the way forward to develop it; being nostalgic about the past is not it!

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