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#81 Bob8

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 12:56 PM

Well remember the Welsh lady at Goodison Park distributing sweets pitch side fifty years ago! Everton had lots of North Wales supporters too.

Can remember too during Broncos better days at the Stoop had them serving Häagen-Dazs ice cream to the punters. We sell ourselves short too often?

I took the wife to a panto and they threw sweets to the crowd and I immediately thought of Everton.  It is a simple ploy, but we often overlook simplicity and the personal touch!

 

I also agree about selling ourselves short.  If you are expecting people to pay to come to your event and you area limiting their food and drink (which is what a stadium does), then the least we should do is give people food and drink they are happy to buy, not resent having to buy.


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#82 ParraEelsNRL

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 05:09 PM

Football, rugby union and cricket are all still expanding as international sports though aren't they?
What I find frustrating is the lack of effort being put into getting countries like France and PNG up to a standard where they can compete with the top three teams. If PNG were in the same position as they are in rugby league but in union or cricket I think they would be playing regular, top-level international matches in those sports and the game will be growing there.
It is interesting that in Sri Lanka Rugby union was the top sport of the elite until Sri Lanka received test status at cricket. Cricket is now the top sport in Sri Lanka.

 

 

Fair enough I agree more could be done, but to say nothing has been done or a lack of effort for France and PNG is in my opinion completely wrong.

 

PNG now have a full pathway all the way from u7's to international with the addition of the Hunters in the QLD cup, already players have been snapped up by NRL sides. About time and long may it continue. 

 

The French haven't really helped themselves over the years, but to say England and the RFL have stood back and done nothing isn't quite right either. The UK for years sent teams over to play France at every level, they more or less always have to the extent, the RFL seen the need to strengthen the French game and the only way they could see that happening was by admitting a French team into the ESL because they obviously didn't see the French game improving itself without their help. Yeah it hasn't really clicked yet for the French team, but I have noticed the lack of 50 and 60+ scorelines we seen a decade ago or so against the big 3. I have also noticed the junior numbers have increased year on year since the Catalans team joined the premier comp in Europe. So yes, things have been put in place if you ask me, it's just time that gets in the way, we are all so used to seeing everything we want at anytime we want it now days, things like this though take time.

 

What the RFL and the NRL need to do is continue to support and build on this. 

 

When you think about it, RL has done quite well in the last 15 years seeing as most of it was spent running the whole game world wide on the smell of an oily rag, yet somehow, it has managed to grow in many many countries I thought I'd never see play Rugby League. Who knows what the future will bring.



#83 Phil

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 05:19 PM

Well the Dutch team are just Australians basically,.


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#84 jus de couchon

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 05:45 PM

Dutch or not this Idea that "Heritage" players , as at the last RLWC , as a way forward is a bad Idea.

#85 westlondonfan

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 07:48 PM

Fair enough I agree more could be done, but to say nothing has been done or a lack of effort for France and PNG is in my opinion completely wrong.

PNG now have a full pathway all the way from u7's to international with the addition of the Hunters in the QLD cup, already players have been snapped up by NRL sides. About time and long may it continue.

The French haven't really helped themselves over the years, but to say England and the RFL have stood back and done nothing isn't quite right either. The UK for years sent teams over to play France at every level, they more or less always have to the extent, the RFL seen the need to strengthen the French game and the only way they could see that happening was by admitting a French team into the ESL because they obviously didn't see the French game improving itself without their help. Yeah it hasn't really clicked yet for the French team, but I have noticed the lack of 50 and 60+ scorelines we seen a decade ago or so against the big 3. I have also noticed the junior numbers have increased year on year since the Catalans team joined the premier comp in Europe. So yes, things have been put in place if you ask me, it's just time that gets in the way, we are all so used to seeing everything we want at anytime we want it now days, things like this though take time.

What the RFL and the NRL need to do is continue to support and build on this.

When you think about it, RL has done quite well in the last 15 years seeing as most of it was spent running the whole game world wide on the smell of an oily rag, yet somehow, it has managed to grow in many many countries I thought I'd never see play Rugby League. Who knows what the future will bring.

Everything that you have said sounds great. I also think there was a noticeable improvement in the French team at the WC (not from PNG though).
I admit I am looking at this all from afar but I think with PNG RL has an opportunity that it doesn't have in many counties. I notice PNG have got ODI status in cricket recently and union must be quite envious of TGG in PNG.
I just think we cannot just assume things will stay the same in the future so RL should strike while the iron is hot!

Edited by westlondonfan, 01 May 2014 - 07:49 PM.


#86 jus de couchon

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 08:02 PM

No , No , No. The SOO has left the game trapped somewhere in Australia. Its not going anywhere until that changes. Where are the people that can make RL real or relevant when 2 States in Aus control the future? Kiwis play Ozz in Anzac game 2morro . Why cant that be on sky in UK?

#87 westlondonfan

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 09:19 PM

No , No , No. The SOO has left the game trapped somewhere in Australia. Its not going anywhere until that changes. Where are the people that can make RL real or relevant when 2 States in Aus control the future? Kiwis play Ozz in Anzac game 2morro . Why cant that be on sky in UK?


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#88 londonrlfan

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 09:24 PM

No they're no they're Dutch been there met them played against them

 

http://www.courierma...d-1226870806188

 

Just going off this article. If it was rugby league, the sport would be slated. 



#89 londonrlfan

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 09:38 PM

Everything that you have said sounds great. I also think there was a noticeable improvement in the French team at the WC (not from PNG though).
I admit I am looking at this all from afar but I think with PNG RL has an opportunity that it doesn't have in many counties. I notice PNG have got ODI status in cricket recently and union must be quite envious of TGG in PNG.
I just think we cannot just assume things will stay the same in the future so RL should strike while the iron is hot!

 

PNG have the Hunters in the Q Cup and have had two players recently go to the NRL, I'd don't see what more we can do right now. Yes we can have more tests, but can't they organise them themselves? The problem in IRL, is teams seem to want the RFL and ARL to do everything for them, rather than live on their own two feet. 



#90 gutterfax

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 05:35 AM

http://www.courierma...d-1226870806188

 

Just going off this article. If it was rugby league, the sport would be slated. 

And rightly so too.

Cricket does have slightly more than 3 countries playing it though.......the line up at the recent CWC semi-finals could have included more than the top 3 seeds and a country stacked with players from the top 3 seeds. But that's a different debate.

 

The PI's are the areas where growth has the best chance of success. Fiji, Samoa and Tonga could well be a match for PNG/France in the near future.......no point in dreaming about Ireland/Scotland/Wales for now....If someone other than the Kiwis in the SH can give the roos a game, then you have a chance to develop the international game



#91 keighley

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 12:58 PM

And rightly so too.
Cricket does have slightly more than 3 countries playing it though.......the line up at the recent CWC semi-finals could have included more than the top 3 seeds and a country stacked with players from the top 3 seeds. But that's a different debate.
 
The PI's are the areas where growth has the best chance of success. Fiji, Samoa and Tonga could well be a match for PNG/France in the near future.......no point in dreaming about Ireland/Scotland/Wales for now....If someone other than the Kiwis in the SH can give the roos a game, then you have a chance to develop the international game


In the near future !! How about right now. Samoa beat France and the Fijians made the semi finals in the recent WC. Samoa also put the fear of god into NZ at Warrington.




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