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#1 Scubby

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 06:52 PM

I noticed from the line-up today that around 10 out of the starting 15 for Toulon were non-French players. If that is happening across the board (Top 14) then it must be hitting the French player pool quite dramatically?

 

I know France haven't had the best year but it looks like the overseas splurge on players is going to continue. Is it the same situation in French RU as exists in the Premier League where the big club bosses have little or no interest in the development of the national team?

 

Money talks and that is where everyone seems to be heading no matter which country or which competition you play in.

 



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 08:14 PM

I noticed from the line-up today that around 10 out of the starting 15 for Toulon were non-French players. If that is happening across the board (Top 14) then it must be hitting the French player pool quite dramatically?

 

I know France haven't had the best year but it looks like the overseas splurge on players is going to continue. Is it the same situation in French RU as exists in the Premier League where the big club bosses have little or no interest in the development of the national team?

 

Money talks and that is where everyone seems to be heading no matter which country or which competition you play in.

They benefit from playing in a strong league. Otherwise it'd be like transferring the best French players into the ProD2. Other teams have more French players.



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 08:35 PM

I was curious to know which of the two finalists, Saracens or Toulon, would field the most English players.

 

Everybody's favourite rugby player, Chris Ashton, had quite a game for Sarries in the semi-final setting a new tournament try scoring record.


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 11:06 PM

8 Kicks at Goal.................Does n't matter what nationality you are...the sport is garbage
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Posted 28 April 2014 - 10:44 AM

8 Kicks at Goal.................Does n't matter what nationality you are...the sport is garbage

There were over 60,000 at the two semi-finals, so many people don't agree with you.

 

I wish RL had the number of teams to have a European competition.The Heineken Cup or it's successor is a great competition.I have enjoyed many trips to the continent to see games .



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Posted 28 April 2014 - 11:37 AM

8 Kicks at Goal.................Does n't matter what nationality you are...the sport is garbage

What the scoreboard says does not reflect the quality of the game or what happened on the field.  I thought that game was a rare professional union game that I thoroughly enjoyed.  Compare that with the Saracens game on Saturday that bored me witless but had plenty of tries.  Tries do not necessarily make a game exciting.


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 11:51 AM

Thoroughly enjoyed the Toulon v Munster game. When Toulon 'click' they're a magnificent rugby team. Habana was really starting to cause Munster all sorts of problems before being subbed. I presume he came off injured or as a precaution?

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 11:59 AM

Thoroughly enjoyed the Toulon v Munster game. When Toulon 'click' they're a magnificent rugby team. Habana was really starting to cause Munster all sorts of problems before being subbed. I presume he came off injured or as a precaution?

He seems to burn himself out quite quickly these days and doesn't seem to have the stamina to last a full game.  He can be a bit of a liability in defence when he's tiring so probably a coach knowing his player and eliminating defensive risks.


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 12:06 PM

Tries do not necessarily make a game exciting.

 

Heresy!

 

I watched both the semi-finals, and the Leeds v Saints game, and the only one that I ever really got caught up in was the Toulon v Munster game. And I can't be doing with Munster. Or Toulon for that matter.



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Posted 28 April 2014 - 12:13 PM

What the scoreboard says does not reflect the quality of the game or what happened on the field.  I thought that game was a rare professional union game that I thoroughly enjoyed.  Compare that with the Saracens game on Saturday that bored me witless but had plenty of tries.  Tries do not necessarily make a game exciting.

 

Got to agree with this. I am quick to get on here and have a chuckle at a 27-21 without a try being scored. But to me the only entertaining Union games I have enjoyed has been where there is genuine attacking intent from both sides. Sometimes, sadly, the rules and 30 bodies on the pitch prohibit tries being scored and while ever you can reward a team with 3 points for a penalty or dg then teams will continue to take them. 


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 01:07 PM

There were over 60,000 at the two semi-finals, so many people don't agree with you.

 

I wish RL had the number of teams to have a European competition.The Heineken Cup or it's successor is a great competition.I have enjoyed many trips to the continent to see games .

 

I'll bet if the 70,000 who attended the RLWC final between Eng and NZ had attended they would have walked before half time or torn down the goal posts to put a stop to the kickathon.



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Posted 28 April 2014 - 02:04 PM

I'll bet if the 70,000 who attended the RLWC final between Eng and NZ had attended they would have walked before half time or torn down the goal posts to put a stop to the kickathon.

did you actually watch the game ?



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Posted 28 April 2014 - 02:36 PM

I'll bet if the 70,000 who attended the RLWC final between Eng and NZ had attended they would have walked before half time or torn down the goal posts to put a stop to the kickathon.

Which mythical RLWC final was this?



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Posted 28 April 2014 - 02:44 PM

Again, it's not the number of trys but the ratio of trys scored that I don't like. If there is one try in a game, that's fine but it should be the team that scores it who win the match, not the team who know how to get penalties more effectively.

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 02:58 PM

Again, it's not the number of trys but the ratio of trys scored that I don't like. If there is one try in a game, that's fine but it should be the team that scores it who win the match, not the team who know how to get penalties more effectively.

What if they stopped by the opposition from scoring tries illegally. What should happen then?



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Posted 28 April 2014 - 03:36 PM

The attendance at Twikkers was heavily criticised (25000) in one of the Sunday papers with photos of vast arrays of green seats.

I was staying in the same hotel as Clermont-Auvergne and speaking to one of their coaching staff on Saturday morning it struck me that they weren't that confident, and so it proved.
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#17 Johnoco

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 04:09 PM

What if they stopped by the opposition from scoring tries illegally. What should happen then?

Change the rules to discourage such negative play.

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 05:02 PM

A quick squiz at the USAP squad seems to show that around half of the first team squad are overseas players.

 

I think that if you look at the spread of the players they are in what are key positions:  props, stand off, goal kicker, Full back, 2nd rowers and centres.

 

They are about to be relegated to ProD2 unless miracles happen on the last day of the season.  

 

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 08:15 PM

I'll bet if the 70,000 who attended the RLWC final between Eng and NZ had attended they would have walked before half time or torn down the goal posts to put a stop to the kickathon.

 

It's always good to get an informed expert opinion. So which of these two won to be crowned RLWC champions....?


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 02:17 AM

It's always good to get an informed expert opinion. So which of these two won to be crowned RLWC champions....?

 

So you spotted a typo omission. Have a gold star. I believe there was one penalty goal in the final. damn poor eh.