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#181 Stratobill

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 09:00 PM

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#182 binosh

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 09:01 PM

What's your views on him SC? Is he well thought of at Salford?

 

one of my best mates plays for Salford and a few weeks ago told me over a beer that the players had requested a meeting with Marwan Koukash because they had absolutely no attacking or defensive structures and had no faith in the coaching team.

 

It turns out Andy Hay was attacking coach and Stuart Donlan was defensive coach and Nobby was using drills from the old Bradford Bulls days, the next day Donlan was sacked, Nobby was moved upstairs and Hay was being pushed so that Long, Harris and his team could bring in their modern fresh ideas.

 

Read into that what you will but going off what I was told these guys were clueless and still in the old days, having said that he maybe the next Daryll Powell.



#183 Maureen T-k

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 09:07 PM

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#184 Terry Mullaney

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 09:58 PM

one of my best mates plays for Salford and a few weeks ago told me over a beer that the players had requested a meeting with Marwan Koukash because they had absolutely no attacking or defensive structures and had no faith in the coaching team.
 
It turns out Andy Hay was attacking coach and Stuart Donlan was defensive coach and Nobby was using drills from the old Bradford Bulls days, the next day Donlan was sacked, Nobby was moved upstairs and Hay was being pushed so that Long, Harris and his team could bring in their modern fresh ideas.
 
Read into that what you will but going off what I was told these guys were clueless and still in the old days, having said that he maybe the next Daryll Powell.

Good to see the improvement since they got shut of Nobby! Time will tell on Andy Hay but he's never been out of the SL scene both as player and in coaching so you'd think he must have something. We'll see, thanks for your input.
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#185 Les Tonks Sidestep

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 10:32 PM

Good to see the improvement since they got shut of Nobby! Time will tell on Andy Hay but he's never been out of the SL scene both as player and in coaching so you'd think he must have something. We'll see, thanks for your input.

 

Same as JB then... 

 

Actions aren't following words....

 

FFS we need someone experienced at this level.

 

PS I notice that all the ball cox about spending big has disappeared from the official site.......


Edited by Les Tonks Sidestep, 15 May 2014 - 10:50 PM.


#186 Terry Mullaney

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 11:35 PM

Same as JB then... 
 
Actions aren't following words....
 
FFS we need someone experienced at this level.
 
PS I notice that all the ball cox about spending big has disappeared from the official site.......

I've no idea whether he's any good or not that's why I asked the original question a few posts further back. All I'm pointing out is that he's been second in command consistently for a number of years so qualified SL coaches presumably must have rated his ability. I've only spoken to one recent Rovers player who knows Hay and he thought he'd be a good appointment. Time will tell

Who else was available I wonder? Would be interesting to know who the other candidates were
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#187 Robin Evans

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 05:08 AM

Same as JB then...

Actions aren't following words....

FFS we need someone experienced at this level.
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like who????
Who is available who wants to come to fev?
Despite how we might hope, the justin morgans of this world just aren't bashing campbell's door down.

Edited by Robin Evans, 16 May 2014 - 05:54 AM.

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#188 lingard

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 05:22 AM

one of my best mates plays for Salford and a few weeks ago told me over a beer that the players had requested a meeting with Marwan Koukash because they had absolutely no attacking or defensive structures and had no faith in the coaching team.
 
It turns out Andy Hay was attacking coach and Stuart Donlan was defensive coach and Nobby was using drills from the old Bradford Bulls days, the next day Donlan was sacked, Nobby was moved upstairs and Hay was being pushed so that Long, Harris and his team could bring in their modern fresh ideas.
 
Read into that what you will but going off what I was told these guys were clueless and still in the old days, having said that he maybe the next Daryll Powell.


How can you build an attack around that numtpy Chase? impossible task!

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#189 GARY....S

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 06:33 PM

Give him a chance people ,lets get there on sunday and make Hay while the sun shines


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#190 Phil Loxton

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 07:39 PM

How can you build structures with Koukash stood over your shoulder; Hay needs to be left to his own devises and I think we will have another Powell;

#191 Les Tonks Sidestep

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 10:07 PM

like who????
Who is available who wants to come to fev?
Despite how we might hope, the justin morgans of this world just aren't bashing campbell's door down.

 

I don't know Robin, but I do know that the Club got rid of someone who was doing alright because they thought the grass was greener.... and look what's happened.

 

Maybe more thinking should take place before rushing into actions (and statements for that matter)?



#192 Robin Evans

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 05:58 AM

Regardless of who we got rid of (and that arguments been done to death) or what statements have been put out, it doesn't change the 'here and now'.
I keep reading suggestions of what the club "should have done" but no-one offers any solution.
Experienced world class coaches that want to coach fev simply aren't queuing up to talk to campbell. Andy hay is a good coach.
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#193 Blind side johnny

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 01:52 PM

Regardless of who we got rid of (and that arguments been done to death) or what statements have been put out, it doesn't change the 'here and now'.
I keep reading suggestions of what the club "should have done" but no-one offers any solution.
Experienced world class coaches that want to coach fev simply aren't queuing up to talk to campbell. Andy hay is a good coach.


How many games can he lose before he is no longer regarded as such?

The reasons given for sacking JB mean that the pressures upon AH to succeed immediately must be enormous.
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#194 Robin Evans

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 01:59 PM

Indeed. But it became abundantly clear after only a few weeks that jb was the wrong choice. He jyst wasn't up to ut.
Andy hay is a different proposition. Unfortunately for himhhe's raking on most of bastion's squad... hence shipping players out and entering a dr deal.
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#195 jamescolin

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 09:05 PM

 

How many games can he lose before he is no longer regarded as such?

The reasons given for sacking JB mean that the pressures upon AH to succeed immediately must be enormous.

 The same aspplies to IESTYN HARRIS or probably more so.

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 09:51 PM

How are the pressures on isteyn comparable to those of andy hay?????
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#197 knottla

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 10:55 AM

Robin I don't think that JB wasn't up to the job,I think the methods and structures were a step up, more akin to S/L and where he struggled was using that in a semi-pro environment and making allowances accordingly.From what has been said on here and other fora his man management wasn't what it might have been.I think coming from S/L backgroung albeit in academy set-up was unfortunately JB's downfall.



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Posted 18 May 2014 - 07:13 PM

 

How are the pressures on isteyn comparable to those of andy hay?????

 Sorry Robin. I was relating my comments to an earlier post. That related to the Salford set up. The getting rid of the coaching staff there. I was meaning that IH might meet the same fate if he wasn't instantly successful. The relation to AH was that he has to have a chance with us and that the Salford situation wasn't due to his poor performance.

#199 ROVERS FOREVER

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Posted 19 May 2014 - 07:51 PM

Before we all start destroying our new coach, i think we need to actually see what happens. I doubt one game will tell us so we must hold out to see any improvement in the team.

 

Saying that, all we need really was the coach. We all know what we can play like and when we don't play, you can be damn sure there is a good reason. You cannot say any of our players are bad, they are all exceptional and if they weren't we'd get rid or they wouldn't be here in the first place. We have all seen heavenly performances from every single player on the pitch and notice as soon as we let the best coach we've had in years go, we struggle.

 

Some poor decisions have been made up to now from those up high, in my opinion DP should never of left but that doesn't matter, for now we have a brand new coach and he looks extremely enthusiastic about his position at Fev.

 

Come on Andy, behind you all the way. No pressure ;)


Edited by ROVERS FOREVER, 19 May 2014 - 07:59 PM.


#200 saddleworth

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 06:50 PM

Regardless of who we got rid of (and that arguments been done to death) or what statements have been put out, it doesn't change the 'here and now'.
I keep reading suggestions of what the club "should have done" but no-one offers any solution.
Experienced world class coaches that want to coach fev simply aren't queuing up to talk to campbell. Andy hay is a good coach.

Agree, Robin. The class coaches are all presently employed by the top four or five clubs with no signs of leaving. I am afraid that it doesnt leave much to consider. Where are our past, formidable players who could be putting something back into the game?.. 






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