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#1 Defender1

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Posted 15 May 2014 - 04:05 PM

I thought this better suited to the community part of the forum as it will affect this game more than any other

Posted Today, 08:15 AM
I recently received the information below and it makes very interesting reading


ACADEMY U16 - U19

A three tier Academy structure will be developed with 4 year Licenses

Up to 8 Category 1 Full-Time Academies.
Up to 8 Category 2 Part-Time Academies
Unlimited Category 3 Education Academies

The Academy structure will require clubs to identify a strategic approach for how the club want to develop players within the resources that it has available.

Academy U15 and U16

Category 1 Academy will operate and manage the full coaching and games programme for up to 40 players registered as scholars in an U15-U16 Academy. Players will progress from the community club environment to the professional club and be dual registered with the community club. Only Category 1 clubs will be able to operate professional club registered scholars. A Category 1 Academy will operate at two age groups U15 and 16 and support a minimum of 4 Player Development Centres at U12-U16 to underpin the system and support the development of community environments.

Category 2 Academy will operate a U16 Foundation Academy and manage a player’s programme of coaching and games through the introduction of a Playing Tariff, for players identified at U16. Each player will be retained within the with community environment. The professional club will support the community club coaches through establishing a Player Development Centre at U15 and U16.

The Foundation Academy and will be able to access up to 20 players for a programme of development and games within an agreed window outside the community playing season. Players will remain registered with the community club with up-to 5 players per club registered with the professional club and managed through the Player Tariff.

A Category 2 Academy will be required to operate and support a minimum of 4 Player Development Centres at U12-U16.

Category 3 Academy will operate in partnership with an education institute (FE College, school, Specialist Sports College, private school) where the players are registered in the community environment. Category 3 will not have scholars registered and will be required to establish Player Development Centres with community clubs and schools.

Academy U19

Category 1 Academy will recruit up to 30 professional players into the Academy. The Academy programme will be required to operate a minimum a minimum 30 hours with players registered on supporting education programmes. (AASE will be the minimum standard of provision. Or alternative models with appropriate A levels and BTEC provision provide a structure curriculum) Players must receive Minimum Contract Value.

Category 2 Academy will be able to recruit up to 25 professional players into the Academy. The Academy programme will be required to operate part-time over a minimum of 15 hours. Players must receive Minimum Contract value and will be in education training or work.

Category 3 Academy will recruit up to 25 players in partnership with the education partner. A structured curriculum must be provided to support the development of the player. As a late development model, Category 3 Academy should aspire to providing a high quality environment with a minimum of 10-15 hours or contact time.

PLAYER DEVELOPMENT CENTRES U12-16

Community Clubs and Schools can be accredited as a Player Development Centre (PDC).

The accreditation process is open for any club to aspire to meet the standard or can be accredited through a partnership with a professional club.

Player Development Centres will provide high quality coaching, and deliver a curriculum that supports the development of the player that is appropriate to the age and stage of development of the players.

All players will be profiled and monitored to ensure that each player reaches their full potential.

The Player Development Centre will replace the Service Area programme for talent identification and development.

The aims are to address the relative age effect, retain more players, and identify those players ready to progress into the talent development environments.

A critical objective is that the PDC does not remove the player from their current playing and development environment but seeks to improve the coaching and playing programme within the community clubs and schools.

Player Development Centres are initial part of the Rugby League performance pathway to help raise coaching and playing standards nationally for players in the U12s to U16s age groups.

The PDC will provide a high quality performance coaching programme aimed at improving technical and tactical knowledge, core skills and strength and conditioning.

Player Development Centres will be the mechanism through which professional clubs can identify, profile and develop potentially talented players for entry into the Academy environments whilst supporting the development and retention of players in the community environment.

Professional clubs can utilise resources, curriculum and tools from the RFL or develop and implement their own programmes within national guidelines.




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#2 Death to the Rah Rah's

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 07:18 AM

RIP youth rugby league!!!

 

I'm probably wrong, but I have not heard of ANY CONSULTATION taking place with the local community game in regard to the article on Academy and Skolarships.

 

Have any of the other leagues?



#3 Defender1

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 08:10 AM

Taxi said exactly the same, if we had unlimited supply this may work but with the drop in youth and limited numbers this will affect the game dramatically, I fear for the so called smaller clubs

People forget it is a food chain, the smaller clubs feed the bigger ones who supply the scholarships, when the start dries up the rest will dry up, on top of this where are the players going to come for the OA with all the 18 year olds playing academy

#4 LordCharles

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 09:21 AM

My understanding is that something of this nature would need to go through the Community Board before it could be implemented, consequently whatever document this information forms part of should in theory have been reviewed and discussed at Community Board level.
 
If that is the case then individuals such as Charlie Bray, Sue Taylor and Peter Moran, all of whom represent the Community game in some capacity within that forum will no doubt be in a position to apply some clarity to this situation, therefore if the regional league representatives ask them the questions then the answers should not be an issue?


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Posted 16 May 2014 - 09:49 AM

RIP youth rugby league!!!

I'm probably wrong, but I have not heard of ANY CONSULTATION taking place with the local community game in regard to the article on Academy and Skolarships.

Have any of the other leagues?


That's because barlas view is taken as that of the whole of the amateur game in the heartlands and we know they are ###### weak unfortunately.

Bottom line nobody is gonna help the community game we have to help ourselves. There's enough capable people on this thread and forum alone to be able to do that!! Who wants to stand up and be counted??
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#6 LordCharles

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 12:44 PM

I applaud your enthusiasm Gillmiester but.....................

 

All 3 NWC Leagues (8-12's, 13-15's and 16-18's) would need to come together under one roof to have any sort of voice.

 

To do that will no doubt be very political given the association with the RFL within at least 2 of the 3 leagues, unless of course they decided to move away under a new residing body.

 

If they did you would then need to create a seperate body under which all three could reside............call it NWC Grassroots RL or something similar.

 

All 3 Leagues would operate independently under a set of rules and a constitution that they controlled and voted on as individual leagues and then as a collective.

 

The purpose of the residing body if you like would be to represent the 3 Regional leagues at all external meetings with the NGB on all aspects of the game and report back with clarity and transparency. The said residing body would not run or interfer with the running of any league, but could be called upon to adjudicate on disciplinary appeals and any other issues that required a neutral party to take a balanced view on if there was any issue at regional league level.

 

In theory they would be a panel of people voted upon, appointed and recognised by the Leagues themselves to manage external affairs away from the day to day adminstration of the leagues and their competitions with the interests of the leagues and their members at heart. They would have no individual voting rights at any external meetings and if a vote was called for then they could only vote in line with what the leagues and member clubs had previously voted/advised upon from discussions or meetings they may have held prior.

 

All sounds simple, but the politics of getting that in place would no doubt be bigger than anything the UN had ever discussed!!!!



#7 London Drifter

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 01:04 PM

Where do we sign up to that!

Sounds so simple and straightforward!

#8 LordCharles

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 01:12 PM

The only way for the game to move forward at Community Club level is for the clubs and leagues themselves to control it, putting something like this in place would do that, whilst giving a strong collective voice and putting a stop to a completely fragmented system that currently see's the NGB deal with each fragment directly and individually.

 

"Divide and Conquer" is the correct terminology I think?


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#9 Defender1

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 01:43 PM

Unfortunately with the signing of the Operational Rules by most leagues and associations it could be we have less control over our game hence issues like this
It could be membership could be the next issue especially as the rumour is there may be a cost

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 01:48 PM

Unfortunately with the signing of the Operational Rules by most leagues and associations it could be we have less control over our game hence issues like this
It could be membership could be the next issue especially as the rumour is there may be a cost

 

Yes that is the word on the street and is something else that has been discussed previously with membership fees likely to hit clubs for anywhere between £1,500 - £3,000.

 

This money of course will be paid to the RFL not the Regional Leagues managed and run by unpaid volunteers.


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Posted 16 May 2014 - 04:06 PM

I applaud your enthusiasm Gillmiester but.....................

All 3 NWC Leagues (8-12's, 13-15's and 16-18's) would need to come together under one roof to have any sort of voice.

To do that will no doubt be very political given the association with the RFL within at least 2 of the 3 leagues, unless of course they decided to move away under a new residing body.

If they did you would then need to create a seperate body under which all three could reside............call it NWC Grassroots RL or something similar.

All 3 Leagues would operate independently under a set of rules and a constitution that they controlled and voted on as individual leagues and then as a collective.

The purpose of the residing body if you like would be to represent the 3 Regional leagues at all external meetings with the NGB on all aspects of the game and report back with clarity and transparency. The said residing body would not run or interfer with the running of any league, but could be called upon to adjudicate on disciplinary appeals and any other issues that required a neutral party to take a balanced view on if there was any issue at regional league level.

In theory they would be a panel of people voted upon, appointed and recognised by the Leagues themselves to manage external affairs away from the day to day adminstration of the leagues and their competitions with the interests of the leagues and their members at heart. They would have no individual voting rights at any external meetings and if a vote was called for then they could only vote in line with what the leagues and member clubs had previously voted/advised upon from discussions or meetings they may have held prior.

All sounds simple, but the politics of getting that in place would no doubt be bigger than anything the UN had ever discussed!!!!


I appreciate that's its a very complicated situation what I was hinting at was that people like Mick Doyle Paul Williamson Terry Barker Stu Prior Roger Fagge et all who run successful leagues and are great advocates of the anateur game could benefit the game by getting together and sharing ideas as a starting point
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#12 LordCharles

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 04:28 PM

Going by what is written here http://www.totalrl.c...d/#entry2930480

 

Its all over bar the shouting.



#13 Death to the Rah Rah's

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Posted 16 May 2014 - 08:07 PM

Another nail in the coffin

Edited by Death to the Rah Rah's, 18 May 2014 - 11:33 AM.


#14 TaxiEgg

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Posted 20 May 2014 - 09:34 PM

I appreciate that's its a very complicated situation what I was hinting at was that people like Mick Doyle Paul Williamson Terry Barker Stu Prior Roger Fagge et all who run successful leagues and are great advocates of the anateur game could benefit the game by getting together and sharing ideas as a starting point

 

The problem now is so many clubs and leagues have fallen for " caressing of the ego " and the RFL have been cute in funding some leagues and infiltrating others .

 

Any change must come from the clubs who sooner or later will have to wake up and smell the coffee.

 

I despair at the antics of the RFL and most people know my views that they are not to be trusted with the amateur game. All they want are yes men and nodding donkeys and if anyone is seen not to tow the party line they are eased out of the equation .

 

Now can anyone please justify to me that that is a fair and equitable way to conduct an organisation ?



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Posted 29 May 2014 - 09:24 PM

Early indications show that there is a groundswell of opposition to this by both the community and professional game .

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 10:15 AM

Opposition from different directions though, I guess making this a compromise proposal



#17 TaxiEgg

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 10:51 AM

Don't think so Bowes a cabinet re shuffle maybe ?

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 11:28 AM

I think the reduction in academies at U16 level is good but the creation of U15 is bad for what it's worth.

 

U19 the proposals look a reasonable in pro academies, but I'm still not sure about educational based teams, as that may be the death knell to community U18 teams (which only exist in Lancashire as it is, plus U17 only existing in Yorkshire)



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Posted 30 May 2014 - 11:38 AM

I think the reduction in academies at U16 level is good but the creation of U15 is bad for what it's worth.

 

U19 the proposals look a reasonable in pro academies, but I'm still not sure about educational based teams, as that may be the death knell to community U18 teams (which only exist in Lancashire as it is, plus U17 only existing in Yorkshire)

 

Reduction in Academies?

 

8 x Category 1

8 x Category 2

Unlimited x Category 3 

 

Category 1 academies will play throughout the Community season and Category 2 will operate in the same manner as the current Academy set up.

 

Not sure where the positives are in any of that?



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Posted 30 May 2014 - 12:11 PM

U16 level will be 8 teams plus another 8 whose fixtures avoid the community game fixtures. Category 3 don't run U16 and there's currently I think 19 teams at U16. Under 19 currently has 13 sides plus 10 at under 20 so 16 is less than 23.




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