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So will Jeopardy - Bradford v Wakefield - see a bumper crowd next week?


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#1 Scubby

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 06:57 PM

So this is one of those defining fixtures of the year - one that is supposed to get the fans excited. Will it result in a big build up and higher than average crowd for Bradford? Or will the home fans stay away (because Bradford are on a horror run) and the visiting fans not travel in numbers?

 

It is either an attractive fixture or not. How do fans of both clubs feel ahead of this game? This is what we were told fans were asking for - jeopardy.



#2 Bomballey

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:08 PM

Been in a similar situation with Cas so I know it can get the pulse racing.

This one, however, feels a bit strange.

Both sets of fans are unhappy, especially the Bulls. With so much of the season left it shouldn't really be a 4 pointer but if the Bulls lose it's hard to see them turning if around based on their last few games.

It must also be tough for both sets of fans to see Cas doing so well without throwing money at it. We've suffered relegation in recent times but learnt lessons from it.

There is hope there somewhere....

#3 Amber Avenger

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:11 PM

No - it'll be absolutely dreadful.

No real jeopardy is there - Bradford are essentially already down - due to points difference we have to win 5 to go above Wakey before factoring in anymore wins they will get. Going on the first half of the season that'll be about 3-5. So Bradford have to win 8-11 from the remaining 13 - so basically playoff form. Bradford won't win 5 more all season, I guarantee that.

Same fixture last year got 10k - bit of a bounce as it was the first game of the season. We'll be lucky to get anywhere near that IMO.

I don't think it says anything for P/R really - Bradford's fate has been decided off the field by the people who have run the club in the past decade.
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#4 Scubby

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:12 PM

Been in a similar situation with Cas so I know it can get the pulse racing.

This one, however, feels a bit strange.

Both sets of fans are unhappy, especially the Bulls. With so much of the season left it shouldn't really be a 4 pointer but if the Bulls lose it's hard to see them turning if around based on their last few games.

It must also be tough for both sets of fans to see Cas doing so well without throwing money at it. We've suffered relegation in recent times but learnt lessons from it.

There is hope there somewhere....

 

Interesting first point. It appears that both sets of fans seemed so disillusioned with recent performances that this one may be difficult to get pumped up for - even if it is a relegation 4-pointer. Unlike football, rugby is such a brutal game that you can get whacked week-in week-out if you are playing badly. So perhaps it creates a different mind set when battling relegation?


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#5 Amber Avenger

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:13 PM

Both sets of fans are unhappy, especially the Bulls. With so much of the season left it shouldn't really be a 4 pointer but if the Bulls lose it's hard to see them turning if around based on their last few games.

There is hope there somewhere....


Can't speak for everyone else - but even if we win next week it'll give me zero hope unless we somehow won by 80.
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#6 sweaty craiq

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:19 PM

Would be a huge game if Bradford got the points back before it



#7 Amber Avenger

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:25 PM

That won't be decided until the week after this game (plus we won't get any back anyway).
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#8 Wellsy4HullFC

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:35 PM

If the hearing was before the game, it would maybe have had the chance of getting a bumper crowd.

As it stands now, there's no jeopardy at all. The OP clearly just wants to have a shot at P/R.
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#9 Scubby

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:42 PM

If the hearing was before the game, it would maybe have had the chance of getting a bumper crowd.

As it stands now, there's no jeopardy at all. The OP clearly just wants to have a shot at P/R.

 

That's not true. If you read my second post I added that, unlike football, RL clubs struggling at the bottom can cop some fearful hidings and this tests the enthusiasm of even the hardiest of fans. Both clubs have been flogged over the last few weeks and it could make it hard for supporters to get up for a relegation 4-pointer - even if it is the most important game of the season.

 

This is why IMO jeopardy doesn't necessarily equate to bigger crowds for basement battle games. Whether we should promote and relegate clubs is a completely different argument.


Edited by Scubby, 25 May 2014 - 07:44 PM.


#10 zorquif

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:51 PM

the problem with this game and 'jeopardy' this season is that one club has essentially got to run on one leg. there isn't much jeopardy in this - bradford are basically relegated.



#11 Dave T

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:56 PM

This isnt what people voted for. People who dislike the new system will use this as a reason to bash it though, no doubt.

#12 Johnoco

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 07:59 PM

It's more to do with hope than anything else. Virtually everyone has none left and the only ones still going are doing so out of habit/loyalty. And that's why the crowd will be poor.

#13 Scubby

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 08:12 PM

This isnt what people voted for. People who dislike the new system will use this as a reason to bash it though, no doubt.

 

I am not against two sides going down this season or relegation on principle. It was the premise that this creates excitement for the fans. My experience watching RL over many years tells me that following struggling teams is a miserable existence for many fans and numbers drop away dramatically before we get anywhere near the crucial 4-pointer games. The jeopardy = excitement = crowds idea in RL is flawed.



#14 zorquif

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 08:22 PM

but this is a flawed argument against it. this is not and never was a real 4-pointer, due to events off the pitch



#15 Dave T

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 08:56 PM

In any case, this is not what they have voted for. They are looking for jeopordy at the end of the season. Not in rd15 where crowds are average.

#16 Dave T

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 08:58 PM

I am not against two sides going down this season or relegation on principle. It was the premise that this creates excitement for the fans. My experience watching RL over many years tells me that following struggling teams is a miserable existence for many fans and numbers drop away dramatically before we get anywhere near the crucial 4-pointer games. The jeopardy = excitement = crowds idea in RL is flawed.

but we havent voted this system in. Ill wait and give it a few yrs to judge rather than a game after rd 15 versus teams 8 pts apart.

#17 Johnoco

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 09:07 PM

But wasn't one of the reasons for bringing back P&R to 'make things interesting all year'. As it stands people are still picking and choosing games so what's changed in reality?

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 09:18 PM

But wasn't one of the reasons for bringing back P&R to 'make things interesting all year'. As it stands people are still picking and choosing games so what's changed in reality?

this is not what they voted for. They voted against this system.

#19 Johnoco

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 09:27 PM

this is not what they voted for. They voted against this system.

Well whatever Dave. The point is we have relegation this year and the argument was that people would be more likely to attend as every game means something. There are still one sided boring games that aren't pulling in big crowds so I aren't sure it has made any difference.

#20 Old Frightful

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 09:39 PM

With London v Hull FC also on the same weekend, it could start giving clues as to who will be nervous towards the season end.

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