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#41 dydo

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 08:46 PM

Bussey is about the only one. There are several knocking around other teams, who are playing well such as Dave Scott and Thomas Carr, there'll be others that I can't bring to mind.

We also are missing a spearhead Stuart Dickens figure, you don't replace 14 years of prop forward/ captaincy experience and you leave a huge hole.

Agree Dickens was a great leader , we seem to be lacking onfield leadership badly at the moment . and as a club that has always brought through great local talent , i hope this loan loan loan fiasco isent going to impede it in any way .

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 08:50 PM

Loan has impeded it from the start. Pushing out our own good players for useless DR/loan players that haven't a clue on how we play.



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Posted 22 June 2014 - 08:58 PM

Agree Dickens was a great leader , we seem to be lacking onfield leadership badly at the moment . and as a club that has always brought through great local talent , i hope this loan loan loan fiasco isent going to impede it in any way .

Looking after the U19s at Wakey. and has successfully brought two into into the first team squad as of late. A great bloke. Another one, who being a great servant to the club, slipped away.



#44 Andrew Vause

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 09:05 PM

Loan has impeded it from the start. Pushing out our own good players for useless DR/loan players that haven't a clue on how we play.

And that is the issue nailed in one. If ( and this is no disrespect to former weaker clubs) we were placing quality such as Ewan Dowes, Liam Watts and say Richard Whiting in our team it would improve the current squad, even though it stinks.
When you are getting sub standard, or at best 'no better' players replacing the established squad players you have already got, itcauses resentment and has an unsettling effect on the team.
We have already lost a long established quality player who was willing to tow his tripe out ( as he always did) but a better offer with long term stability was put his way.

To me if we are going DR we may as well not have fought for the identity of the club all those years ago and gone with the 'Calder Brand' at least we could have enjoyed 'Old father time Kirmond' in full swing.

Edited by Andrew Vause, 22 June 2014 - 09:06 PM.


#45 dydo

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 09:05 PM

Looking after the U19s at Wakey. and has successfully brought two into into the first team squad as of late. A great bloke. Another one, who being a great servant to the club, slipped away.

Agree on that 100% a big loss to us , and a credit to him for bringing a couple of lads through a great achievment , wish he was part of our development a great bloke and well respected by any player .

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 09:11 PM

And that is the issue nailed in one. If ( and this is no disrespect to former weaker clubs) we were placing quality such as Ewan Dowes, Liam Watts and say Richard Whiting in our team it would improve the current squad, even though it stinks.
When you are getting sub standard, or at best 'no better' players replacing the established squad players you have already got, itcauses resentment and has an unsettling effect on the team.
We have already lost a long established quality player who was willing to tow his tripe out ( as he always did) but a better offer with long term stability was put his way.

To me if we are going DR we may as well not have fought for the identity of the club all those years ago and gone with the 'Calder Brand' at least we could have enjoyed 'Old father time Kirmond' in full swing.

110% agree. If you are talking about Tommy Saxton, everytime I hear his name i want to go on a rant as to why we ever let him go in the first place.

 

God we've made some shocking decisions.


Edited by ROVERS FOREVER, 22 June 2014 - 09:12 PM.


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Posted 22 June 2014 - 09:14 PM

Mate said Briggsy had a great game for them today , another impatient impulse wrong decision as well ?

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 09:17 PM

Sorry, but there was no passion. We need more Kains  not imports who play there own little 1 yard move. Sorry but I paid £50 to see a unorganised team . Some one needs a good talking to or sack him. First time in 3 years lose or win I was gutted.



#49 Andrew Vause

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 09:22 PM

What about the experienced 'pivot' / utility who, in my opinion struggled a little, at times, last year but could be devastating on his day and played his finest game against a former club of his, in a 'shock defeat' defeat that would be impossible reproduce now.

He was willing to fight for the cause for 2 more years, but decided against it because of what was on offer and who he'd be coached by. Why risk your spine any longer, when any minute you could be out on your culo?

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 09:27 PM

Mate said Briggsy had a great game for them today , another impatient impulse wrong decision as well ?

Bussey has got better and better.



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Posted 22 June 2014 - 09:28 PM

Sorry, but there was no passion. We need more Kains  not imports who play there own little 1 yard move. Sorry but I paid £50 to see a unorganised team . Some one needs a good talking to or sack him. First time in 3 years lose or win I was gutted.

If we had more like Andy Kain it would get boring sat at the top all the time.



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Posted 22 June 2014 - 10:16 PM

Mate said Briggsy had a great game for them today , another impatient impulse wrong decision as well ?

quiet   frst   half   but   in   the   second   he   ran   into   the   line   three   times   something   he   hasent   done   at   fev  for   acouple   of   seasons  he   scored   a  try   and   made   one .cooky   for   once   had   a   moderate   game   threw out   about   four   bad   passes   and   didnt   break   the   line .anthony   thakray  at  scrum   half  for   dewsbury  did   everything   a   top   ####  half   should   do  and   was   the   best   player   on   the   pitch   by   quite  a   way.



#53 Steve Slater

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 10:29 PM

If we had more like Andy Kain it would get boring sat at the top all the time.

Trouble is Andy is having to do more of the creative work because we are lacking in that department, and we are missing him as an out and out stand off. But his bet display of the season was 3 week ago against Dewsbury when he took over the scrum half role half way through the first half. Seijka looks good as an individual player but he's not leading us around the park, and his distribution is too disjointed so far and will take time to click. Moore was just staring to look ok before he got injured, which shows how long it takes for the play makers to settle in.

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 10:46 PM

6 hour round trip and half a tank of diesel to watch that utter garbage!! Everyone connected to our club should be ashamed of themselves with that today

From the players - we will call them players as they are clearly not a team a team anymore, its just a team of individuals attempting to play in a team, no fluidity, no togetherness, no one has got a clue how to run a ball in anymore in the pack, Harry Seijka is by far the worst scrum half ive seen at Fev in a fair while, even people are asking when Moore is fit!! How much time did he have to knock over a DG at 14 all and proceeded to do the worlds worst fake DG attempt and run and got tackled! Unacceptable from a supposed leader round the pitch!

I was skeptical when he was brought in and made my feelings clear, only to be rebuffed and told to give him a chance, yet we see that today from him and i feel i am having the last laugh unfortuneatly because he should be no where near a fev shirt again for me and shipped back to wakey reserves,

Crookes is another one who is stealing a wing shirt from Etu, Mendeika, Blackmore or even Hellewell, his loan cannot end soon enough either

Whats also worrying me is at 14 - 14 workington were as cool as a cucumber, yet we were like rabbits in the headlights trying to score off every break, resulting in numerous poor and dropped ball, it almost looked inevitable what would happen and look what happened

We are simply a mess, a rudderless ship at the moment, no leaders, no one standing up to be counted

The coaches - last week we got away with naming no specialised hooker on the bench and Ellis was blowing like a cart horse after 12 hours in the rice fields last week, so why does AH proceed with the same plan today, in the hot dry sun? Well that clearly bit us in the backside today as we were snookered when Ellis went off injured, Flanagan is clearly not in favour with AH which i dont know why as i quite like Flanagan, but he wouldve had a field day today in that second half running at those tired Workington forwards, so i suggest to AH - if you read this, Flanagan will have to play next week cos of Ellis head injury, but please revert to two hookers in the team thank you

The BOD - quite simply, we need some answers to the long term future and quick, are the money men in or are they out because we cant move on at this present time

The opposistion - Whilst Workington were well worthy in their victory today, i have never seen a team roll about as much with ''injuries'' as i have witnessed today, the stoppages for workington injuries mustve been in the double figures and its a shame because i dont think they need that in their game - you can see why they have got BP in nearly every game because they work so hard for one another, i cant believe thats only 4 victories for them this season

But lets be honest, with the wage budgets and calibre of players of both teams, workington shouldve been nowhere near us today, yet they were the only one team today who showed heart, courage, aggression and that bit of extra skill when required, you could argue we dominated the seond half, but the final result doesnt lie

Roll on NW crusaders next week, a team who appear to be playing as bad as us, surely we cant drop points to them


From a Workington pov we had 16 players one on the wing was our conditioner retired five years and we also had a young lad on the bench who'd never played at this level before. On top of that all our three props played big minutes one who must be nearly 20 stone our lads were dead on there feet. No gamesmanship just literally knackered and there for the taking if fev had been better hence several getting cramp!
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#55 sentoffagain

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Posted 22 June 2014 - 10:59 PM

From a Workington pov we had 16 players one on the wing was our conditioner retired five years and we also had a young lad on the bench who'd never played at this level before. On top of that all our three props played big minutes one who must be nearly 20 stone our lads were dead on there feet. No gamesmanship just literally knackered and there for the taking if fev had been better hence several getting cramp!

well   done   on   your   win   sounds   like   you   deserve   it  .we   have   been  in  the   position   of   underdog   and  what   afeeling   when   one   upsets  the   applecart  the   money   men   at   fev   will   be   crying   into   their   champagne,



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Posted 22 June 2014 - 11:19 PM

It was a great feeling today. Fev have a great set of fans and it will come good for you guys good luck for the rest of the season
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#57 dydo

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:23 AM

well done on your win sounds like you deserve it .we have been in the position of underdog and what afeeling when one upsets the applecart the money men at fev will be crying into their champagne,

Ha its nice to be ridiculed for our financial stability and massive progress off the field with our superb self owned stadium and facilitiies , as for feelings as achieving as underdogs , i think youl find that the famous fev have been there at the highest over our history .

#58 genesis

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:55 AM

ok, I've had a nights sleep over our rubbish display yesterday. But we are Rovers the best supported team in the championship. Dust yourselfs down and do us prould. please.



#59 Terry Mullaney

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 07:57 AM

What about the experienced 'pivot' / utility who, in my opinion struggled a little, at times, last year but could be devastating on his day and played his finest game against a former club of his, in a 'shock defeat' defeat that would be impossible reproduce now.
He was willing to fight for the cause for 2 more years, but decided against it because of what was on offer and who he'd be coached by. Why risk your spine any longer, when any minute you could be out on your culo?

Agree Andy, Jonny H would have played on had he felt wanted. Someone go talk to the lad. Finn, Heppy and Briggs, all class acts, shown the door and replaced with what? It's unbelievable

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Posted 23 June 2014 - 11:18 AM

I miss tommy saxton. He always ran in with determination and was a wriggly swine to cop. Always used to offload aswell. Our team at current, seem to be asleep when it comes to picking off loose balls.




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