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#21 ckn

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Posted 17 July 2014 - 11:40 PM

Do you have a new motor?

Not yet, got a rental one for a few weeks until we find something we like.  Not rushing into it.


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Posted 18 July 2014 - 06:58 AM

Our water bill went down this year. Only slightly, but still down. Oh, and the water bill isn't just for water consumed it is also for removal of waste water.
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#23 Gary Coyle

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Posted 18 July 2014 - 03:50 PM

Not yet, got a rental one for a few weeks until we find something we like.  Not rushing into it.

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 01:24 PM

I had found a lovely car, away in the wilds of this area outside of most people's Autotrader mileage catchments, a very good spec Jaguar XJ from a private seller.  Immaculate condition on first inspection but I had enough doubts about it that I got a specialist to come and have a look for me, including road tests, on ramps, etc.  The report came back and I'd probably have to spend the same as the purchase price getting it in a condition where I could drive it heavily and reliably.  Air suspension beyond acceptable play, corrosion hidden by paint, parking sensors not working, tyres aging and requiring replacement, spare tyre badly corroded and so on.

 

So, that's £200 for the inspection but it probably saved me thousands on repair bills and another costly money trap of a car.  Money well spent.

 

Edit:  I offered to give the seller a copy of the report free of charge but he said "don't bother, I don't need it" giving me plenty of hints that he knew the problems and was hoping some mug would come along and take it "as is" with no comeback.


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#25 Severus

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 01:45 PM

I had found a lovely car, away in the wilds of this area outside of most people's Autotrader mileage catchments, a very good spec Jaguar XJ from a private seller.  Immaculate condition on first inspection but I had enough doubts about it that I got a specialist to come and have a look for me, including road tests, on ramps, etc.  The report came back and I'd probably have to spend the same as the purchase price getting it in a condition where I could drive it heavily and reliably.  Air suspension beyond acceptable play, corrosion hidden by paint, parking sensors not working, tyres aging and requiring replacement, spare tyre badly corroded and so on.

 

So, that's £200 for the inspection but it probably saved me thousands on repair bills and another costly money trap of a car.  Money well spent.

 

Edit:  I offered to give the seller a copy of the report free of charge but he said "don't bother, I don't need it" giving me plenty of hints that he knew the problems and was hoping some mug would come along and take it "as is" with no comeback.

 

The very reason I hate buying cars. When we picked up my wife's car the seller (private) was very upfront with all of the faults and told us how much they would cost. No BS and a reasonable asking price taking into account the work needed doing, why can't all transactions be like that?


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 01:53 PM

The very reason I hate buying cars. When we picked up my wife's car the seller (private) was very upfront with all of the faults and told us how much they would cost. No BS and a reasonable asking price taking into account the work needed doing, why can't all transactions be like that?

It's bloody annoying and why I've given myself plenty of time to get the car right.  The thing that most annoyed me is that the guy showed me the current MoT, just done, and that it had been last serviced by Jaguar fewer than 5000 miles before, what he hadn't told me was that in the 18 months he's had it he's done 300 miles and the service was in early 2011.  Any car sitting around that long doing not very much is going to deteriorate and would not really take well to having to do 12,000 miles a year.

 

Ah well, onto Autotrader again.


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 02:34 PM

I am utterly ignorant when it comes to cars. I put the key in and expect it to work. If it doesn't, I'm up the creek. So don't shoot me, it's just a thought.

 

Instead of taking the risk of buying second-hand, have you considered buying new? Or, if that's too expensive, leasing? I don't know the pros and cons, but either way should give you some trouble-free motoring.


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#28 ckn

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 02:45 PM

I am utterly ignorant when it comes to cars. I put the key in and expect it to work. If it doesn't, I'm up the creek. So don't shoot me, it's just a thought.

 

Instead of taking the risk of buying second-hand, have you considered buying new? Or, if that's too expensive, leasing? I don't know the pros and cons, but either way should give you some trouble-free motoring.

We leased for years up until a few years ago but it just works out so expensive and the car's not yours.

 

The RAC and AA do quite decent car inspections for you, costs you around £250 or so for their premium checks and you can be sure they'll be thorough as they don't want you coming back to sue them for a rubbish inspection..  If you're buying a specialist car then it's always worth getting in touch with the local main dealer or specialist garage and ask them to do the check for you, it'll usually cost 1-2 hours of labour so doesn't come out as too expensive.


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 02:54 PM

I remember at article I read years ago where the author took a close look at the company car agreement and realised that, instead of selecting from the limited choice of repmobiles, he could make his own choice, as longas it was within budget. He ended up with an "as new" restoration of a gorgeous Citroen DS convertible.

 

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It impressed the hell out of clients, but the company car rules were quickly amended!


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#30 Severus

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 03:41 PM

I am utterly ignorant when it comes to cars. I put the key in and expect it to work. If it doesn't, I'm up the creek. So don't shoot me, it's just a thought.

 

Instead of taking the risk of buying second-hand, have you considered buying new? Or, if that's too expensive, leasing? I don't know the pros and cons, but either way should give you some trouble-free motoring.

 

I bought a couple of cars from new but wouldn't recommend it. There are obvious perks but you can get so much more for your money buying second hand. I drove a Porsche Boxster for a couple of years (early onset midlife crisis) which I picked up for £6K. I brilliant car to drive and it was in mint condition. Got fed up with it being impractical (the wife also has a two seater) so I swapped it for a 9 year old BMW 5 series touring with all the bells and whistles. I would never be able to afford to buy either of those cars from new.


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 09:46 PM

We leased for years up until a few years ago but it just works out so expensive and the car's not yours.

 

The RAC and AA do quite decent car inspections for you, costs you around £250 or so for their premium checks and you can be sure they'll be thorough as they don't want you coming back to sue them for a rubbish inspection..  If you're buying a specialist car then it's always worth getting in touch with the local main dealer or specialist garage and ask them to do the check for you, it'll usually cost 1-2 hours of labour so doesn't come out as too expensive.

 

Have you considered buying new from the likes of drivedthdeal.com or carfile.net?



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Posted 22 July 2014 - 09:53 PM

I remember at article I read years ago where the author took a close look at the company car agreement and realised that, instead of selecting from the limited choice of repmobiles, he could make his own choice, as longas it was within budget. He ended up with an "as new" restoration of a gorgeous Citroen DS convertible.

 

citroen-ds-cabrio-02.jpg

 

It impressed the hell out of clients, but the company car rules were quickly amended!

 

I get a company car or if I take the cash I am supposed to have a car not more than 3 years old according to the car policy. I do take the cash but thankfully nobody has ever checked the age of my car; it's over 4 years old but I work from home and it's only got 21k on the clock. It's been garaged all it's life and there is no way I am ditching a perfectly good car because HR tell me to. I understand that they want us to look respectable when we meet clients, but the client I am working for is in California so I will not be driving to their site.

 

I got my car on a 3 year 0% finance deal and have been really pleased with it. The badge snobs may laugh at Skodas but I really live my Octavia vRS, cheap, cheerful, lots of toys and goes a bit when driven properly.


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 10:06 PM

I get a company car or if I take the cash I am supposed to have a car not more than 3 years old according to the car policy. I do take the cash but thankfully nobody has ever checked the age of my car; it's over 4 years old but I work from home and it's only got 21k on the clock. It's been garaged all it's life and there is no way I am ditching a perfectly good car because HR tell me to. I understand that they want us to look respectable when we meet clients, but the client I am working for is in California so I will not be driving to their site.

 

I got my car on a 3 year 0% finance deal and have been really pleased with it. The badge snobs may laugh at Skodas but I really live my Octavia vRS, cheap, cheerful, lots of toys and goes a bit when driven properly.

Skodas are just rebadged Volkswagen cores with lower prices due to the reverse snob factor with Skodas.  Really, if you're laughing at Skodas these days you're laughing at Volkswagens and Audis.


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Posted 22 July 2014 - 10:07 PM

Have you considered buying new from the likes of drivedthdeal.com or carfile.net?

We've definitely written off getting a new car as it would mean finance and I refuse to get any credit at all these days.  I'm down to my mortgage as credit and the rest is either paid cash or I can't afford it.


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#35 Griff9of13

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 06:59 AM

We leased for years up until a few years ago but it just works out so expensive and the car's not yours.


If you are leasing you really need to shop around, the variations in price can be unbelievable. I use http://www.contracthireandleasing.com Also if you aren't too fussy about which make and model you are after there are some really cheap deals to be had. I've leased several times and it's worked out well for us.
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Posted 23 July 2014 - 07:14 AM

I bought a Landrover Defender 110 just over 12 months ago, always wanted one, thought I'd have it 12 months and be craving to go back to some creature comforts after "getting it out of my system".  But 20,000 miles later and I think we'll be keeping hold for a good few years, not let me down yet, although I've not been shy in staying on top of maintenance but its the first and only car I've smiled every time driven it and due to the limitations on speed its slowed my pace of life down to one I'm really quite enjoying.  Not sure I'd get away with meeting clients working for corporate sorts, but working for myself I call the shots and any client/customer I meet wants a chat about it.

 

Back on the subject of bills, I seem to have an annual conversation with my energy suppliers, they don't seem to get that I use less in Summer and more in Winter an seem insistent on adjusting my direct debits, down in summer, up in winter, I thought the whole point was to keep bills consistent over the year, they seem to disagree!


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Posted 23 July 2014 - 07:19 AM

The Defender is a great bit of kit. It just feels like it can go anywhere and survive a nuclear blast. Also, good design means that maintenance is far less of a drag than on similar wagons.

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#38 JohnM

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 07:46 AM

One thing I have learnt in 50 years of car ownership.

Motor vehicle = money pit.

Just bite the bullet and accept that whatever the make, whatever the model, whatever the fuel, whatever the age, in the long run it'll cost you. Just accept that there is a price to pay for personal mobility...treat it as a utility, just like gas, elec, phone, etc.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 07:50 AM

The Defender is a great bit of kit. It just feels like it can go anywhere and survive a nuclear blast. Also, good design means that maintenance is far less of a drag than on similar wagons.


Soon to be replaced. It's expensive to make, expensive to run, extremely environmentally unfriendly, has trouble meeting safety regs( no more sideways seats in back) , noisy, quite unreliable but that has improved. In recent years.
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Posted 23 July 2014 - 07:54 AM

Soon to be replaced. It's expensive to make, expensive to run, extremely environmentally unfriendly, has trouble meeting safety regs( no more sideways seats in back) , noisy, quite unreliable but that has improved. In recent years.
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.but I still want one!!!!

Car design and safety regulations are a bit of a one-size-fits-all thing that tend not to recognise a vehicle's role in life.  I've become a bit too soft in the last few years to actively want a Defender but I still recognise how fun they were to drive.


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