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#1 jamescolin

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 04:17 PM

Two clubs down from SL this year namely Bradford and London. Then next season of which they will be part of the Championship after 23 rounds the SL which will now be 12 cllubs the bottom 4 of that twelve combine with the top four of the Championship to form the 8 club league. Of those 8 clubs who play each other only once and the top three go into Sl. The fourth and fifth clubs have a play off for the final fourth place in SL. That means, if we get in our championship top four, we have to compete with 6 SL clubs for the top four places. Two which were relegated this season and the bottom four of the SL after 23 rounds. Added to that woe is the fact that the bottom four will have received £1.8 million and even Bradford will get £780,000. Our top payment in the Championship will be £500,000. Additionally the salary cap for the Championship will be £1 million against SL clubs 1.8 million.
It seems very clear that the powers that be want the bottom four SL clubs back. It will be very difficult to compete on those terms

#2 YOUNG UN

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 06:24 PM

Did you expect them to make it easy? I would hazard a guess that if Dewsbury and Batley( if we both stay in this division) were extremely fortunate enough to gain entry to SL at the end of next season the  RFL rule book would go out of the window. The new rule would be that all teams beginning with the letter D or B are no longer allowed to play in SL due to Sky requirements, subject to bye law 42 which states that  this rule be waivered providing you have Bulls in your second name and bye law 43 which states that this must not contain Dog.    



#3 Phil Loxton

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 06:32 PM

Did you expect them to make it easy? I would hazard a guess that if Dewsbury and Batley( if we both stay in this division) were extremely fortunate enough to gain entry to SL at the end of next season the  RFL rule book would go out of the window. The new rule would be that all teams beginning with the letter D or B are no longer allowed to play in SL due to Sky requirements, subject to bye law 42 which states that  this rule be waivered providing you have Bulls in your second name and bye law 43 which states that this must not contain Dog.    

....or any team that has been called a set of traffic lights between Wakey and Pontefract;



#4 old big red

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 06:35 PM

Same old SL just looking after SL now news there then and the championship being s### on again is there no justice in this game

#5 saddleworth

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 06:45 PM

Money, money, money. Sky will be the death knell of our sport below SL level. Divide and conquer, thats the way to do it.



#6 Robin Evans

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 06:46 PM

I specialise in the treatment of paranoia and persecution complex lads!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#7 jt

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 07:34 PM

Don't see the problem with it every club had there say and Fev is one club that is all for the new system People complained of the 3 year licence some are never happy

#8 Snowys Backside

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Posted 22 July 2014 - 10:07 PM

If Bradford and London think they are going to get their own way, then they need to think again.

 

A more compressed Champioship with Quality, with Leigh, Fev and Halifax chomping at the bit and other decent outfits to knock them off their game as well.

 

It will be difficult to get to SL, but it is better than it was.

 

I think next year is going to be fantastic and Leigh and Fev need to give the Bulls and the Broncos hell !!



#9 mav33

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:37 AM

ABSOLUTLY 100 PER CENT AGREE



#10 The Phantom Horseman

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:45 AM

Think we need to drop the cynicism a bit now. Plenty said London wouldn't be "allowed" to drop out of SL but it's happening (& the "iconic" Bulls). The chance is there, and one of next season's Championship top 4 is guaranteed to get into at the very least a play-off for a SL place. Come the second half of 2014 and I suspect there will be at least one current SL team that has struggled, is short of confidence and ripe for the taking, and the whole set-up doesn't suggest (to me anyway) that the RFL don't want any promotions.

 

The door is a lot more open than it has been for years, anyway.



#11 maksymilian

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 11:54 AM

If Fev get promoted how long do we think it will be until the novelity wears off? Dont get me wrong we are all up for the challenge but lets be under no illusions it going to be v.tough.



#12 jamescolin

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 06:06 PM

 

If Bradford and London think they are going to get their own way, then they need to think again.
 
A more compressed Champioship with Quality, with Leigh, Fev and Halifax chomping at the bit and other decent outfits to knock them off their game as well.
 
It will be difficult to get to SL, but it is better than it was.
 
I think next year is going to be fantastic and Leigh and Fev need to give the Bulls and the Broncos hell !!

 Yes and then we have to play the bottom four SL clubs to gain promotion with all the financial hangups that go with it.

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 07:26 PM


Yes and then we have to play the bottom four SL clubs to gain promotion with all the financial hangups that go with it.


Play the bottom 4 S/L clubs at home bigger crowd something to play for and more money into the club We won't get into S/L for a few year yet so don't worry who we play and we have to finish in the top 4 of our league to play them which is not certain at all with Leigh Bradford and London being full time

#14 jamescolin

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 08:23 PM

When you look at the cup results when Championship clubs play SL then added to that fact that they will be getting around four times more from RL then you are right about us not getting into SL and you make a good point about having to get into the Championship top four next season after 23 games with Bradford, L<ondon, Leigh, Halifax and Donny having a few things to say. Don't forget in the eight club league consisting of the top four Championship clubs and the bottom four Sl clubs only seven fixtures will be played. If we do qualify for the middle eight it will be interesting to see how home advantage in the fixtures is decided. It is also stated that the fourth club in this league will have a play off with the fifth club to decide on the fourth team to qualify. Gives a bit of hope but we need vast improvement.

#15 saddleworth

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 08:26 PM

I specialise in the treatment of paranoia and persecution complex lads!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Aye Robin and I am a good fortune teller



#16 Steve Slater

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 08:36 PM

Play the bottom 4 S/L clubs at home bigger crowd something to play for and more money into the club We won't get into S/L for a few year yet so don't worry who we play and we have to finish in the top 4 of our league to play them which is not certain at all with Leigh Bradford and London being full time

Should we write to the RFL then. and ask for the points back that we should have won at Workington and Rochdale? Because they were on a much lower wage bill than Fev and had no right to beat them.......but they did!

Any club that has the same injury and back room problems that we've had this season will be there for the taking, just like we were at Spotland and Derwent Park. Big money signings can't win you games from the treatment table, so who knows?



#17 jt

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:19 PM

Should we write to the RFL then. and ask for the points back that we should have won at Workington and Rochdale? Because they were on a much lower wage bill than Fev and had no right to beat them.......but they did!
Any club that has the same injury and back room problems that we've had this season will be there for the taking, just like we were at Spotland and Derwent Park. Big money signings can't win you games from the treatment table, so who knows?


Why would we write to the RFL for our lose don't get your point from what I posted

#18 Little Lion Man

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 12:04 AM

Cheer up lads, they have renamed next years championship as Super League 2 ......so you have already made it to Super League.

That's said, so will York on current tables.

I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decadence.

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#19 Steve Slater

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:32 AM

Why would we write to the RFL for our lose don't get your point from what I posted

It was just a joke JT, what I meant was that Rochdale and Workington had no right to beat us on wages spend, but they smelled blood and we were there for the taking. What we have been going through lately can also happen at other clubs and those that lose their team spirit after finishing in the bottom 4 will have a tough job to regain it for the middle group, regardless of how many stars they have.



#20 jamescolin

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:42 AM

 

Don't see the problem with it every club had there say and Fev is one club that is all for the new system People complained of the 3 year licence some are never happy

 Not the system as it is better than the licence idea, but the huge difference between the funding of SL clubs and the hopeful participants from the Championship makes it a very uneven contest. Our league top team gets £500k the rest a lot less. The SL clubs apart from Bradford will receive £1.8 million. That could be nine times more than some championship clubs. That makes them able to recruit from anywhere, and their salary cap is far greater. The point I am making is yes some games can be won, but the RFL have done their best to ensure that the bottom four are going straight back up.




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