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Rugby League's popularity riding high (Merged threads)


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#21 Doghead

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:54 AM

I think I am right in saying £2million of profit from the World Cup was moved to the RLIF.



#22 LordCharles

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:59 AM

Wood said the popularity of rugby league was at an all-time high, with almost 39 million people watching the game live - either at the ground or on television - which was more than 40 per cent up on 2012, and claimed that participant levels increased across all categories

 

 

Active Peoples Survey from 2006-13, tells its own tale..............

 

Cricket - 195,200 particpants in 2006 down 3% to 189,400 in 2013

 

Football - 2,021,700 participants in 2006 down 4% to 1,939,700 in 2013

 

Rugby Union - 185,600 participants in 2006 down 10% to 166,400 in 2013

 

Golf - 889,100 participants in 2006 down 13% to 772,800 in 2013

 

Rugby League - 73,700 participants in 2006 down 34% to 48,700 in 2013



#23 brooza

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:59 AM

I think I am right in saying £2million of profit from the World Cup was moved to the RLIF.

Can't remember if that's the actual figure, but yes it was a few million


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#24 EdinburghExile

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:59 AM

Can he not be sued for blatant lying?

Would you rather he was telling the world that everything's awful, and that we should just pack up now? That'd really please the sponsors.



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 12:17 PM

 

Active Peoples Survey from 2006-13, tells its own tale..............

 

Cricket - 195,200 particpants in 2006 down 3% to 189,400 in 2013

 

Football - 2,021,700 participants in 2006 down 4% to 1,939,700 in 2013

 

Rugby Union - 185,600 participants in 2006 down 10% to 166,400 in 2013

 

Golf - 889,100 participants in 2006 down 13% to 772,800 in 2013

 

Rugby League - 73,700 participants in 2006 down 34% to 48,700 in 2013

 

What time period was Wood talking about? I assume he wasn't lookig at the above period.

 

His statements were vague enough to be true.

 

39m viewers last year could easily be the highest on record, as pointed out, a technicality due to the WC, however if it is higher than previous WC years then that is a positive.

 

He then said participation increased - I suppose we'd need to see 2012 vs 2013 to judge that.



#26 LordCharles

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 12:53 PM

What time period was Wood talking about? I assume he wasn't lookig at the above period.

 

His statements were vague enough to be true.

 

39m viewers last year could easily be the highest on record, as pointed out, a technicality due to the WC, however if it is higher than previous WC years then that is a positive.

 

He then said participation increased - I suppose we'd need to see 2012 vs 2013 to judge that.

 

 

The "Survey says".................

 

October 2011 - 51,100 Participants

 

April 2012-13 - 48,700 Participants

 

A decrease of almost 5%.......



#27 Gruff

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 01:16 PM

The "Survey says".................

 

October 2011 - 51,100 Participants

 

April 2012-13 - 48,700 Participants

 

A decrease of almost 5%.......

 Maybe, just maybe, he was talking about 12/13 to 13/14, y'know -  the latest figures?

 

Just a thought....



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 01:18 PM

And of course the international game is thriving ; )

Not much to do with the RFL is it?

 

They can try to organise games, but if no one from the southern hemisphere wants to come and play England, and the fans don't want to go watch any match up between northern hemisphere teams, then what should they do?  



#29 Gruff

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 01:23 PM

The "Survey says".................

 

October 2011 - 51,100 Participants

 

April 2012-13 - 48,700 Participants

 

A decrease of almost 5%.......

Just had a look for April 2013 -2014 for 14+ - this is at 63,400...



#30 Gruff

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 01:24 PM

Can he not be sued for blatant lying?

 Where are the lies?  I would be keen to see this.



#31 Gruff

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 01:28 PM

Totally agree with Lord Charles the RFL is all about spin from the senior figures in the game. The truth never gets in the way of self preservation when Nigel Wood speaks.

The game is a business that is being run by people who are out of their depth. Our competitors Rugby Union and the NRL have made massive strides in the last ten to fifteen years. Why? very simple ....... professional leadership.

We are going nowhere with Barwick, Wood and Rimmer. By the way what exactly does Brian Barwick doing on a daily basis?

 

RU release a statement not long back saying they had a 40% increase of television viewers since moving to BT.  They didn't mention they they actually televising nearly double the amount of games to get this 40% increase.

 

Guess how many threads from "fans" on popular RU forums, or articles from RU journalists deriding this as spin and calling for peoples heads there were....

 

Then have a rethink as to why RL is being held back...



#32 Eldujo

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 01:29 PM

Just had a look for April 2013 -2014 for 14+ - this is at 63,400...

If correct, that's pretty impressive. Around 30% up on 2012-13.



#33 Gruff

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 01:33 PM

If correct, that's pretty impressive. Around 30% up on 2012-13.

 All info here

 

http://www.sportengl...sport/by-sport/

 

Don't know why the previous poster used out of date figures to validate the criticism of the RFL's press release, when it would have been just as easy to get accurate figures...



#34 Gruff

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 01:41 PM

What is impressive is a £7m increase in turnover - about 25%.

 

The RFL needs to continue this upward trend though and not sit on their Laurels.

 

We are massively behind RU (turnover £150m), but without our own stadium and the international scene that RU benefits from, that is still an impressive figure.



#35 dkw

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 01:47 PM

forget expansion fat nige has 

fat nige? Really? How old are you, 10.



#36 dkw

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 01:48 PM

 Maybe, just maybe, he was talking about 12/13 to 13/14, y'know -  the latest figures?

 

Just a thought....

Almost as thought someone is trying to use false stats to demean something. How very weird.



#37 redjonn

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 01:51 PM

If correct, that's pretty impressive. Around 30% up on 2012-13.

 

Just trying to reconcile your 30% comment. I'm looking at the spreadsheet that shows 14+ as distinct from the other that has the 16+ and info on more survey years.

 

Anyway the end column is from April to April (hence combines two survey years that are normally Oct to Oct)... that shows 63,400

 

The survey before which is the normal Oct to Oct shows 67,300.

 

Thus I'm trying to understand your comment, purely as I'm wondering if I misunderstand the info.

 

Not disputing the actual numbers but one has to also be cautious as the columns cover different periods which could affect the outcomes comparison until we get the full Oct to Oct to compare.


Edited by redjonn, 24 July 2014 - 01:54 PM.


#38 Gruff

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 01:57 PM

Just trying to reconcile your 30% comment. I'm looking at the spreadsheet that shows 14+ as distinct from the other that has the 16+ and info on more survey years.

 

Anyway the end column is from April to April (hence combines two survey years that are normally Oct to Oct)... that shows 63,400

 

The survey before which is the normal Oct to Oct shows 67,300.

 

Thus I'm trying to understand your comment, purely as I'm wondering if I misunderstand the info.

 

Not disputing the actual numbers but one has to also be cautious as the columns cover different periods which could affect the outcomes comparison until we get the full Oct to Oct to compare.

I think he is basing it on the 48,700 quoted for April 2012-2013 by LordCharles

 

Any comparison has to be based on the latest figures, and by using the April to April not only are these the latest figures, but these will show any effect the WC will have had.



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:04 PM

I have just read a quote from Nigel Wood where he states "The game is at an all time high with almost 39 million watching the game live-either at the ground or on television"

 

Which leads me to ponder how big the population of Yorkshire and Lancashire really is?

 

Seriously though to make a broad staement like this, one would presume there are facts to back it up, as of yet though no actual facts seem avaliable.

 

The plot thickens to quote anotherwell know  fictional character



#40 Eldujo

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 02:05 PM

I think he is basing it on the 48,700 quoted for April 2012-2013 by LordCharles

 

Any comparison has to be based on the latest figures, and by using the April to April not only are these the latest figures, but these will show any effect the WC will have had.

That's where the 30% came from

 

2012-13 - 48,700

2013-14 - 63,400

 

Apologies if I was comparing apples to oranges






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