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#1 Spidey

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:10 AM

Some snipets coming out so far:

 

Top 8 of SL this year get bye to last 16 of Challenge Cup

£1M Salary cap for Championship

No change to SL Salary Cap

No parachute Payment

Increased central funding for championship

 

Most of this known/assumed already I guess

 



#2 brooza

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:20 AM

2015 marks a new era in the sport of Rugby League and next season promises to be the most exciting in living memory.

The changes to the structure of the competitions will ensure that every minute, of every match, in every competition matters, while the return of promotion and relegation in a format that is financially sustainable should ensure fans of the sport are entertained from February to October, with an exciting season punctuated by a series of world-class events commencing with the World Club Challenge and finishing at Old Trafford with the Super League Grand Final.

 

Why is the competition restructuring taking place?

The fundamental purpose of the new structure is to make Rugby League’s professional competitions more exciting, by restoring promotion and relegation in a sustainable manner. 

 

What will the leagues be called in 2015?

In the regular season, the First Utility Super League and Kingstone Press Championship will retain their current names – the only change will be that the third tier competition will become Kingstone Press League 1.

 

How many clubs will be in each competition?

Super League and the Championship will each feature 12 teams and Kingstone Press League 1 will comprise 14 clubs.

 

How will the identity of the clubs in all three competitions be determined?

At the end of the 2014 regular season the bottom two clubs in Super League will be relegated to create a 12-team competition. At the same time, the bottom five clubs in the Championship will be relegated, and the Championship One winners will be promoted to create a 12-team Championship. The five relegated Championship clubs and the eight remaining Championship Once clubs will be joined by new entrants Coventry Bears to create a 14-team League 1.

 

How will the new structure work for League 1?

The 14 League 1 clubs will each play 22 games – 11 home and 11 away, playing each other once and nine teams twice with fixtures scheduled on a geographical basis. At the end of the regular season 1st will play 2nd with the winner promoted to the Championship as champions. The loser of that match will join the teams which finished 3rd, 4th and 5th in a play-offs series as follows: loser of the promotion decider v 5th, and 3rd v 4th. The winners of those semi-finals will contest a play-off final to determine the second promotion place.

In addition, a League One Cup competition will be reintroduced in 2015 consisting of 16 teams – the 14 League 1 clubs plus the 2014 National Conference League Grand Final winners and the 2014 RFL Conference Challenge Cup winners. The competition will be a straight knockout with the early rounds played at the start of the season.  The first round will be an open draw grouped by geography with the straight open draw thereafter. It is proposed that the final will be played at the ‘home team’ venue rather than a neutral venue but this is still to be confirmed.

 

Will Championship and League One clubs still be able to enter into duel registration partnerships with Super League clubs?

A three-way working party with representatives from Super League, Championship and the community game has been formed to look into how best to protect the integrity of the leagues whilst ensuring that there are minimal barriers to stop players having regular competitive playing opportunities.

 

Will bonus points continue to be awarded in both the Championship and League One?

With annual promotion and relegation restored, there is a recognition that all teams need to use the same points scoring system.  The sport currently operates two scoring systems with two points for a win and one for a draw in Super League, and three points, two for a draw and one for losing by 12 points or less in Championship and Championship One. One of these will be adopted across all three competitions from 2015.

A consultation process is currently underway to see which would be the best option: the process will take into account the views of players, coaches, administrators, broadcasters, commercial partners, other stakeholders in the game and, most importantly, the fans.   Leeds Metropolitan University are undertaking a piece of research to obtain the views of fans from both Super League and Championships that will feed into the decision-making process which is expected to come to a conclusion before the end of this year.

 

How will the new structure impact on the Challenge Cup?

The 2015 Challenge Cup will be aligned to the new competition structure with the main change being that the eight clubs contesting the Super League play-offs in 2014 (and Super 8s from 2015 onwards) will enter the Challenge Cup at the sixth round stage.

The 14 League 1 teams will enter at the third round stage, joining the 10 survivors from the 40 clubs invited to participate from the first round (12 ties)

The 12 Championship clubs will then enter in Round 4, joining the 12 third round winners (12 ties).

The bottom four Super League teams enter in Round 5, joining the 12 fourth round winners (eight ties).

The top eight Super League teams enter in Round 6, joining the eight fifth round winners (eight ties)

The sixth round is followed by the quarter-finals, semi-finals and final at Wembley Stadium.

The 2015 Challenge Cup final will be played on the Saturday of the August Bank Holiday weekend.


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#3 brooza

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:25 AM

Super League is to remain as the First Utility Super League and the Championship will still be called the Kingstone Press Championship

The 3 x 8s phase of the season will be known as the Super 8s. With the top 8 from Super League to remain the First Utility Super League, the middle 8 (bottom 4 of SL & top 4 of Champ) to be called The Qualifiers and the bottom 8 of Championship to play in the Kingstone Press Championship Shield.

The Play-Offs will then be at the end of the season and made up of:

Super League (top 4) – First Utility Super League Play-Off Semi-Finals and Grand Final

The Qualifiers (4 v 5) – The Million Pound Game

Championship Shield (top 4) – Kingstone Press Championship Shield Semi-Finals and Final

League 1 (top 5) – Kingstone Press League 1 Promotion Final, Play-Off Semi-Finals and Final

 

How will the new competitions work for Super League and the Championship?

The 12 Super League clubs play each other twice, home and away, during the regular season (22 fixtures) plus one fixture at Magic Weekend. The 12 Championship clubs will also play 23 matches, home and away plus one fixture at the Summer Bash.

After playing 23 fixtures, the 24 Super League and Championship clubs will split into three groups – the Super 8s – based on league positions.  The top eight will continue as Super League, the middle eight will be the Qualifiers and the third eight will be the Championship Shield.

 

How will the Super 8s work?

Clubs will each play seven fixtures on a league basis.

Clubs which have performed strongest in their respective competitions in the regular season will be rewarded with four fixtures as follows: the top four Super League clubs will play four home matches; in the Qualifiers, the team finishing ninth and 10th in Super League and the top two teams from the Championship will have four home matches; and in the Championship Shield, clubs finishing the regular Championship season in 5th to 8th place will have four home fixtures.

In Super League and Championship Shield, the competing clubs will carry over the points and scoring records from the regular season into the Super 8s. The Qualifiers will start with zero points because the eight clubs are drawn from two different competitions.

 

What happens after clubs have played seven matches in the Super 8s?

The top four clubs in Super League will go into the play-offs: 1st v 4th and 2nd v 3rd. The winners of those two matches will contest the Super League Grand Final. All eight Super League clubs are guaranteed top flight status for the following season.

In the Qualifiers, the top three clubs at the conclusion of the Super 8s are also guaranteed Super League status the following season. The 12th place in Super League for the following season will be determined by the Million Pound Game, a play-off between the 4th and 5th-placed clubs played at the home of the 4th-placed club.

In the Championship Shield, the top four clubs enter a play-off, 1st v 4th and 2nd v 3rd, with the winners contesting the Championship Shield final.

The bottom two teams (7th and 8th) in the Championship Shield will be relegated to League One.

 

Has the sport considered straight promotion and relegation, a system which operates in football?

Rugby League has previously used straight promotion and relegation between Super League and the Championships, however the gulf between the competitions was too large.  To compete in Super League, a club needs to have a squad of exclusively full-time players backed up by a fully professional coaching and administrative staff; Championship clubs have been by necessity semi-professional in nature, both on and off the field.  Making the transition from one to the other is a difficult and protracted process and, as history demonstrated, unachievable over the course of a few short months.

 

How do you know that this is going to work?

The proposals were based on studies performed by KPMG, and after lengthy consultation with fans, clubs, players and broadcasters.   There is also already plenty of evidence to indicate that the imminent return of promotion and relegation is having a positive impact on the sport. Over halfway through the regular season, this is the closest First Utility Super League campaign ever seen with just a couple of points between the top five clubs and 12 clubs in contention for the play-offs. In the Kingstone Press Championship, the battle to finish in the top nine places (and thereby avoiding relegation) is cut-throat whilst in Championship One the title race is more intense than ever before. 

 

How will the financial distributions change to facilitate the return of meaningful and sustainable promotion and relegation?

The change in structure has seen a significant increase in the central funding available to those clubs relegated from Super League in 2014 and the top clubs in the Championship in 2014.  This should allow for more full-time professional clubs in the championship competition in 2015, ensuring that the gap between the teams in the Super League and the Championships is narrower than ever before.

 

Will the clubs relegated from Super League receive a ‘parachute payment’?

No, but there is increased annual central funding to those clubs relegated from Super League in 2014.

 

What changes will be made to the salary caps for Super League and Championship clubs?

There will be no change to the Super League Salary Cap Regulations in 2015.

The Championship Salary Cap regulations are substantially changed for 2015. The major changes to the Regulations are:

            The move to a “live cap system”. This represents a significant change from the approach taken under previous salary cap regulations, in that compliance is now to be monitored on a ‘live’ and ongoing basis, enabling breaches to be investigated, determined and sanctioned without delay.

            The increase in the Finite Salary Cap to £1 million.

 

Will Championship matches and Qualifiers involving Championship clubs be broadcast live on television?

At this stage it is intended that the Summer Bash and one match from every week of the Qualifiers will be broadcast live.

 

When and where will Magic Weekend be played in 2015?

Negotiations over the staging of Magic Weekend in both 2015 and beyond are ongoing with a number of potential venues.  The unique atmosphere that the Super League event brings has made it very attractive to destination cities.  An announcement on the future of Magic Weekend is imminent.

 

When and where will the Summer Bash be played in 2015?

The Summer Bash will take place at Bloomfield Road, Blackpool, over the bank holiday weekend of Saturday May 23 and Sunday May 24, 2015 with three Championship fixtures on each day. The Summer Bash will bring the same party atmosphere to Blackpool that Super League fans have enjoyed at Magic Weekend over the last few years with live music, a Fanzone and on-pitch entertainment.


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#4 gingerjon

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:34 AM

Interesting ...


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#5 scotchy

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:42 AM

Who on earth decided on the name 'The qualifiers'? really how much thought could have been put in to that? it is awful, we will have teams playing to qualify for The Qualifers and teams playing to qualify for the play-offs being relegated to The Qualifiers?  Teams playing in The Qualifiers for promotion and others against Relegation. Whilst it isn’t a complicated system, it’s a bit complex, the nomenclature could at least help rather than hinder the situation.

Also why are we putting out a press release to say mostly things which were already public knowledge when we cant confirm basic things like if and how Dual reg will work, even the most basic thing, which points system we are using. What have we gained from not waiting for those things to be confirmed and how have we decided on a new structure without actually addressing these issues?


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:45 AM

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#7 brooza

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:46 AM

Who on earth decided on the name 'The qualifiers'? really how much thought could have been put in to that? it is awful, we will have teams playing to qualify for The Qualifers and teams playing to qualify for the play-offs being relegated to The Qualifiers?  Teams playing in The Qualifiers for promotion and others against Relegation. Whilst it isn’t a complicated system, it’s a bit complex, the nomenclature could at least help rather than hinder the situation.

Also why are we putting out a press release to say mostly things which were already public knowledge when we cant confirm basic things like if and how Dual reg will work, even the most basic thing, which points system we are using. What have we gained from not waiting for those things to be confirmed and how have we decided on a new structure without actually addressing these issues?

To be fair, there is a fair bit of new information in there, and there is a 240 page thread on this very board based on people's speculation. Surely it's better to be told what is known now rather than leave it until the end of the year when everything is confirmed before telling us anything at all


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#8 scotchy

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:51 AM

To be fair, there is a fair bit of new information in there, and there is a 240 page thread on this very board based on people's speculation. Surely it's better to be told what is known now rather than leave it until the end of the year when everything is confirmed before telling us anything at all

I can understad that, but the dual reg and points system are pretty big things to be missing.

 

They could put out a series of press releases as and when things were confirmed. What they seem to have done is dumped a huge amount of information our saying 'heres whats happening, except these bits which we havent decided yet'

 

Also why today? We see what are apparently fantastic growths in playing and watching RL released on the day of the Commonwealth Games opening ceremony, then all this information about the new structure given out on the first day of competition. Would waiting two weeks have damaged us in anyway? its almost like we are trying to bury this info.



#9 brooza

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:53 AM

I will admit though that the bit that puzzles me is:

 

Leeds Metropolitan University are undertaking a piece of research to obtain the views of fans from both Super League and Championships that will feed into the decision-making process which is expected to come to a conclusion before the end of this year.

I would hope they do reach a conclusion before the end of the year, certainly before the start of the next season!


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#10 Eldujo

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:55 AM

 

No change to SL Salary Cap

 

 

Does this mean it's not even going up to reflect inflation and what not?



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:42 AM

RFL MEDIA RELEASE

 

New structure to usher in exciting new era for Rugby League

#RLNewEra

Full details of the exciting new league structure that will come into operation in 2015 for Rugby League’s professional and semi-professional competitions have been outlined today.
From next season the First Utility Super League and Kingstone Press Championship will both feature 12 clubs, whilst Kingstone Press Championship One will be renamed as Kingstone Press League 1 and comprise 14 clubs.
RFL Chief Executive Nigel Wood said: “The changes will ensure that every minute of every match in every competition matters and are being implemented following the most comprehensive consultation process in the sport’s history.
“The return of promotion and relegation in a format that is financially sustainable for all clubs should ensure fans are entertained from February to October, with an exciting season punctuated by a series of world-class events commencing with the World Club Challenge and finishing at Old Trafford with the Super League Grand Final.”
Super League and Championship clubs will each play 23 matches in the regular season – home and away against the other clubs in their respective competitions plus Magic Weekend or Summer Bash.
At the end of the regular season, Super League and the Championship will split into the Super 8s, three groups of eight clubs based on league positions called Super League, The Qualifiers and Championship Shield.
Super League features the top eight Super League clubs; The Qualifiers comprises Super League clubs nine to 12 plus the top four Championship clubs; and the Championship Shield features Championship clubs five to 12.
The Super 8s will be played on a seven match mini-league basis, and will largely determine the make-up of Super League and the Championship the following season.
In Super League, all eight clubs are guaranteed top flight status for the following year whilst the top four will contest a play-off series - 1st v 4th and 2nd v 3rd, with the winner going through to the title-deciding Grand Final.
In The Qualifiers, the top three clubs after seven matches will play in Super League the following season with the final place determined by the Million Pound Game, a play-off between the clubs finishing 4th and 5th. The loser of the match will join the three remaining clubs from The Qualifiers and six Championship Shield clubs in the Championship the following season.
In the Championship Shield, the top four clubs with contest a play-off series with the winners contesting the Championship Shield final. The bottom two teams in the Championship Shield will be relegated to League 1.
The 14 League 1 clubs will each play 22 games – 11 home and 11 away, playing each other once and nine teams twice with fixtures scheduled on a geographical basis. At the end of the regular season 1st will place 2nd with the winner promoted to the Championship as champions. The loser of that match will join the teams that finished 3rd, 4th and 5th in a play-off to determine the second promotion spot.
The 14 League 1 clubs will also be joined by the 2014 National Conference League Grand Final winners and the 2014 RFL Conference Challenge Cup winners in a new knockout competition played at the start of the season.
To allow for the changes to the league structure, the top eight Super League clubs will join the Challenge Cup at the sixth round stage, with League 1 clubs entering at Round 3, Championship clubs at Round 4 and the bottom four Super League clubs at Round 5.

Full details of the new league structure and what it means for all clubs can be found on the RFL, First Utility Super League and Kingstone Press Championship websites by following the links below:

http://www.superleag.../2015_a_new_era
http://www.therfl.co.uk/2015_a_new_era
http://www.rugbyleag.../2015_a_new_era


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#12 Dave T

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:43 AM

I'm ok with the re-branding, although not a massive fan of the Million Pound Game - sounds a bit tacky, but then in the world of Magic Weekend, Summer Bash, T20 Blast etc then at least it has something to talk about,.



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:48 AM

I'm ok with the re-branding, although not a massive fan of the Million Pound Game - sounds a bit tacky, but then in the world of Magic Weekend, Summer Bash, T20 Blast etc then at least it has something to talk about,.

The million pound game is an awful name because the prize is promotion, not a million pounds.

 

Summer Bash is a pretty good name, far better than the magic weekend which is a bit of a hangover from its original location.



#14 bowes

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:50 AM

40 community clubs is down from 44 last year. Can't help but feel that will be down again if league 1 expands, also if they're not inviting every NCL club they may as well be honest about what they're doing and drop it to 20 so we don't need the extra round



#15 EdinburghExile

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 11:56 AM

Interesting indeed. Well done on them of thinking of a name for the middle tier. When I implemented a similar system last season, I couldn't think of anything, so divs one and two became A, B and C. Maybe I'll pinch 'qualifiers' for this year.



#16 Dave T

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 12:11 PM

The million pound game is an awful name because the prize is promotion, not a million pounds.

 

Summer Bash is a pretty good name, far better than the magic weekend which is a bit of a hangover from its original location.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of Magic Weekend either. Doesn't really make sense to me. 

 

I'd still prefer LeagueFest, Festival of Rugby League - something along those lines.



#17 Ackroman

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 12:13 PM

I like it a lot.....



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 12:19 PM

2015 - a new era

 

http://www.superleag.../2015_a_new_era

 

 

 

 

 

league one looks fantastic,we'll stay here thanks...


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#19 The Phantom Horseman

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 12:27 PM

I like it too, the only disappointment for me being that there don't seem to be plans to show Championship games during the main body of the season, only the Summer Bash and 1 Qualifier each week



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 01:04 PM

As a fan of a Championship On.. Ahem, League One club I'm baffled by the decision to play 1st vs 2nd at the end of the year to decide automatic promotion with the loser dropping into the play offs with 3rd, 4tg and 5th.

What a pointless game, the league winner should go up automatically with 2-5 contesting for the second place via play offs.




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