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The Lib Dems and self-congratulation


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#1 ckn

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 04:48 PM

I got a nice email today from the Lib Dems going on about how they were right to go into the Coalition because of the economy and heartily slapping themselves on their backs for their efforts.  Well… what about the rest of the stuff they’ve right royally screwed up along with their Tory mates.

 

- The bankers… where are the prosecutions and reforms?  Nowhere.  If any other group had caused that much damage to our country then they’d be called terrorists and shipped off to an “offshore” detention centre never to be heard of again.
- The NHS.  It’s in bits. Half of it is bankrupt in all bar name because of “reforms” and fake competition.  The other half has been reorganised repeatedly so that it can hide closures and service reductions.  Then the government “fines” hospitals for poor service, that’s taking money out of the hospital’s budgets so that it can’t afford to improve.
- Universities.  A headline promise to oppose fees was turned into a three-line whip to vote for them.
- Local government.  Another point where central government cuts and pressures have left many councils with choices between cutting one critical service or another because there’s nothing else left in the cupboard to cut.
- The disabled.  A MINIMUM of a six month wait for Personal Independence Payment assessments and often far, far longer.  And that doesn’t even take into account the work fitness assessments that are meant to take disabled people off benefits and throw them in society’s skip.
- The poor.  Implementing a mandatory bedroom tax when there’s not enough housing stock for people to downgrade.  A ridiculous policy that’s made life even harder for the poorest in society.
- The poor again.  We have the highest level of genuine food bank usage EVER in the UK.  A national disgrace that you conveniently shuffle away under the carpet hoping Labour will stop beating you about it.
- The poor yet again.  The government attack on benefits claimants where if you look at a benefits advisor the wrong way they’ll sanction you.  The examples are everywhere including people being sanctioned because they were at job interviews, sanctioned because they were in hospital, sanctioned because they refused to delete qualifications from CVs.

 

I could go on for many, many more bullet points.

 

To any remaining Lib Dem voters, if you think those things are Liberal successes then you’re nothing but a Tory in disguise.  A common argument is that you’re in a Coalition therefore can’t do everything, well, yes but there is such a thing as collective responsibility.  YOUR government implemented those things, YOUR government and YOUR Lib Dem ministers are responsible.

 

Watch this youtube video.  This is what your government has done.  Well done, what a liberal legacy.  Have a nice slow hand clap for your efforts.


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#2 Trojan

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 09:18 PM

I listened to Danny Alexander today on WatO. He says in 2010  we were on the brink. On the brink of what?  We had 2% growth.  Osborne with the full connivance of the Lib/Dems killed any growth in the economy stone dead with their budget in 2010.  The figures say we are back to pre 2008 GDP, this could probably have been achieved by 2012 but what would there have been in that for Osborne and his lapdog Danny?   We were on the brink of returning to growth, not disaster.   We are not Greece, lenders weren't reluctant to lend to the UK. As Dave says "this is a very wealthy country"


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Posted 25 July 2014 - 09:43 PM

The thing that really winds me up is that they're doing things way beyond that that had the nation up in arms in Thatcher's time.  For example, in our area nearly 20% of mental health beds have been cut in two years (Norfolk and Suffolk mental health trust had 600 beds in 2012 but cut this to 481 by 2014) yet no-one seems to care, it's austerity after all and we need to save our pennies.

 

The Coalition have been lucky with the very low interest rates meaning that there's a big old rump of people who are quite comfortable now and aren't feeling the pinch anywhere near the way those impacted by the sharpest cuts have been.  If we had even scratching the interest rates of the early 1990s then we'd be seeing far more dissatisfaction...


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Posted 26 July 2014 - 06:27 AM

The thing that really winds me up is that they're doing things way beyond that that had the nation up in arms in Thatcher's time.  For example, in our area nearly 20% of mental health beds have been cut in two years (Norfolk and Suffolk mental health trust had 600 beds in 2012 but cut this to 481 by 2014) yet no-one seems to care, it's austerity after all and we need to save our pennies.

 

The Coalition have been lucky with the very low interest rates meaning that there's a big old rump of people who are quite comfortable now and aren't feeling the pinch anywhere near the way those impacted by the sharpest cuts have been.  If we had even scratching the interest rates of the early 1990s then we'd be seeing far more dissatisfaction...

 

It will be interesting to see the how the economy reacts and the public reaction when interest rates, inevitably start to rise.


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Posted 26 July 2014 - 08:13 AM

Alexander was at it again this morning on Today. Bleating about being "on the brink" presumably this is going to be their buzz phrase going into the election. He was claiming credit for the income tax cut, but failed to mention the VAT rise which at a guess gobbled up much of the tax cut for the less well off families he's claiming to have helped.


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Posted 26 July 2014 - 10:05 AM

I've just watched the video you posted, and tbf its very powerful. If only more mp's were as passionate about their job as he is. I've said for years that thus country is in a mess and we need to look at the needs of our people, but yet we seem to spend billions in foreign "aid". India's space program, israeli defence force, projects to feed other countries poor and needy. What about our poor and needy? How much better could our country be if we invested that money here?
Where I live (wakefield) the council announced 2 weeks ago it was closing 7 childrens/family centres due to budget cuts, this week however they have announced that they are to give £6 million to the Hepworth museum! This is a museum that is free to visit, maybe if they charged they wouldn't need a £6 million bail out? What could that £6 million do to improve the lives of the people of wakefield? Could that money not have been spent on the family centres, that provide help/advice and free training courses to parents looking to get back to work? This country is in a mess and its sickening that those in power just don't seem to want to make it better :(
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Posted 26 July 2014 - 10:25 AM

Then there's the other thing I forgot.  The government have won the battle with the media over terminology about jobseekers allowance claimants, if someone stops claiming benefit then the government now lists them as in employment and the media sucks it all up.  (for example, read the headline, the rest of the article isn't relevant for this point, this was just the first in the list of my search).  The BBC are the sole media source that doesn't seem to have bought it and still talks about reductions in the numbers claiming unemployment benefits.

 

Then there's the Royal Mail sell-off to the Tories' mates with a small handout to the small proportion of the public that bought the shares.  Another thing "managed" by a Lib Dem.


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