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#41 roughyedspud

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:55 AM

well it was one or the other wasn't it....lol

 

 

i heard someone say that owlerton was worse than whitebank....but i dismissed it as impossible ;)


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#42 Griff

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:03 AM

To be honest mate i wasn't on about Whitebank as i have never been lol.

 

Didn't want to mention Sheffield Eagles's Owlerton Stadium but now you have made me lmao.

 

Yes - and there was that ground where the players were given a bucket to pee into.  Now where was that ?


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:07 AM

hahaha really?


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#44 Griff

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:31 AM

hahaha really?

 

Really.

 

I actually thought Whitebank's changing facilities weren't too bad when they were new but they do seem to have .... er .... deteriorated over the years.


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#45 Blind side johnny

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 12:32 PM

i never said no such thing...

 

 

So what did: "but we do pay for and more would be willing to pay for it and start attending games again if they felt their clubs where actually their club again and not a after thought or a simply a play thing for the top 12 clubs, the only ones the RFL  cares about, to get their players fit again..."  actually mean then?


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#46 Blind side johnny

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 12:35 PM

At Dewsbury ?  No ground hire costs ?  Bit of profit from the bar sales ?  There are going to be clubs who'd need to pay out a whole lot more than that.......

 

 

How do you understand the use of the word "minimum" Griff?


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 12:40 PM

Yes - and there was that ground where the players were given a bucket to pee into.  Now where was that ?

did they recycle it in the club bar?


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#48 Griff

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 02:18 PM

How do you understand the use of the word "minimum" Griff?

 

Just trying to establish your criteria.   I'm still trying.............


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 02:47 PM

Just trying to establish your criteria.   I'm still trying.............

 

 

Where are you trying to go with this Griff? I passed on a comment from a club official that in his view this would be the minimum cost at his club. What's your issue?


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#50 Griff

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 03:00 PM

Where are you trying to go with this Griff? I passed on a comment from a club official that in his view this would be the minimum cost at his club. What's your issue?

 

 

Just trying to establish your criteria.   I'm still trying.............


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#51 gogledd

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:34 PM

well it was one or the other wasn't it....lol

 

 

i heard someone say that owlerton was worse than whitebank....but i dismissed it as impossible ;)

At least in Whitebank we could get into an inside bar for a drink before the game where our elderly fans could sit down! 46 Crusaders fans left Owlerton on the final whistle and made straight to the nearest pub!!



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Posted 08 August 2014 - 09:05 AM

At least in Whitebank we could get into an inside bar for a drink before the game where our elderly fans could sit down! 46 Crusaders fans left Owlerton on the final whistle and made straight to the nearest pub!!

 

We should play all our games away.  Then we might win some.

 

Meanwhile - watch out for that alchol dependency. ;)


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#53 Hornetto

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 07:50 AM

And how does that make you feel watching Rochdale develop these Saints players for a season? A lot of Hornets resources being used to ease the Saints purse strings, and for what? The player goes back to Saints after a few months and the young Rochdale junior left to take his place is totally disillusioned at having had his career path blocked by a DR player.

Well, we're bringing through Rochdale lads AND making DR work for us... so it works for us.

 

We had a couple of DR players last season who signed for us this season as 'ours'. so it works both ways if you're prepared to find a way to make it work. A coach/club will always have to find ways to keep players happy/engaged.

But as we've had much the same DR guys on a regular basis, it 'feels' ok to me.

 

But I've watched a lot of NSW Cup, so I'm a bit more comfortable with the concept of a partner club.


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#54 Griff

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 08:36 AM


But I've watched a lot of NSW Cup, so I'm a bit more comfortable with the concept of a partner club.

 

And, presumably, more comfortable without promotion or relegation.


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#55 Hornetto

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 10:31 AM

Promotion and relegation is so deeply ingrained in British sporting culture that people get a bit hung-up on it. If we have it, all good. If a competition doesn't have it, being the best you can be in the competition you're in is no less valid a goal.

 

But we can only play within the structures we have, so people can either rail against them and expend a whole load of energy hating the thing we purport to love, or just get behind their club/team - regardless of where they get their players from - and support them to be as good as they can be.

 

If people opened their minds to the fact that 'the way we've always done things' might not be the best way to actually do things, the world becomes a more interesting place. Indeed, an awful lot of Rugby League people do tend to have the debilitating habit of walking backwards into the future.


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#56 Manx RL

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:00 PM

If they played curtain raisers the reserves could travel on the same bus as the firsts and the coach could watch both games to assess how the young un's were coming on.

 

 

I see your logic bearman but thats going to be a cramped bus with 2 squads, 2 coaching teams and associated kit. Not sure many first team squads would be too chuffed with the scenario, earlier start to catch the bus (2hrs+?) for the reserves curtain raiser. You'd also run into issues with changing facilities at many grounds.


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#57 Griff

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:29 PM

Promotion and relegation is so deeply ingrained in British sporting culture that people get a bit hung-up on it. If we have it, all good. If a competition doesn't have it, being the best you can be in the competition you're in is no less valid a goal.

 

But we can only play within the structures we have, so people can either rail against them and expend a whole load of energy hating the thing we purport to love, or just get behind their club/team - regardless of where they get their players from - and support them to be as good as they can be.

 

If people opened their minds to the fact that 'the way we've always done things' might not be the best way to actually do things, the world becomes a more interesting place. Indeed, an awful lot of Rugby League people do tend to have the debilitating habit of walking backwards into the future.

 

I'm not against p+r so long as the promoted teams can afford it.

 

I just don't think that you can prepare for being promoted by being in Div 2.  Or even the new-fangled Div 1½.


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