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#1 The Daddy_merged

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:07 PM

For those who didn't watch boots n all, an announcement is imminent and the expanded comp has been agreed for next year.

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:22 PM

please make it happen


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:45 PM

Not really a fan of this 1st v 1st 2nd v 2nd 3rd v 3rd concept, but I suppose 3 games are better than one.
Hopefully it's a stepping stone to an actual expanded tournament.
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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:59 PM

Ian Lenaghan was pressed on this on Rugby League Xtra last Thursday and the suggestion was that a three team tournament was coming.

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 11:07 PM

the best thing about this is the team finishing top is guaranteed a place so well worth making the effort.


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 11:22 PM

its not really a expanded WCC though is it....2v2 & 3v3 has nothing to do with the WCC...

A expanded WCC would be the NRL winners v ESL runners up & ESL winners v NRL runners up...then a final...but thats way too simple...


also its telling that the convoluted version of the WCC will only happen when we host it...the aussies host a simple winner v winner 1 game WCC...whys that? cos they know the aussies don't fall for convoluted ####!!

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#7 JohnM

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 07:40 AM

Sounds like good news!

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 07:49 AM

Not really a fan of this 1st v 1st 2nd v 2nd 3rd v 3rd concept, but I suppose 3 games are better than one.
Hopefully it's a stepping stone to an actual expanded tournament.

 

And unless things have changed, it won't be 2v2 and 3v3, as the NRL are sending whichever clubs fancy the trip - Souths and Brisbane last I saw.

 

I thought the whole segment on Boots n All was a bit odd actually. A breathless announcement to tell us that it hadn't been officially agreed on yet and an official announcement would be a few weeks away. 



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 07:58 AM

Clubs no doubt trying to line their pockets again... when are we ever going to learn that internationals are the way forward to develop the game rather than convulted rubbish like this? Clearly we haven't learned anything from 2013...


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 08:01 AM

Clubs no doubt trying to line their pockets again... when are we ever going to learn that internationals are the way forward to develop the game rather than convulted rubbish like this? Clearly we haven't learned anything from 2013...

 

Quite.

 

An expanded WCC isn't a bad idea, it's quite a good one presuming the format isn't bobbins.  Quite how it'll fit into the season is something they'll need to work through.


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#11 Wellsy4HullFC

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 08:47 AM

Clubs no doubt trying to line their pockets again... when are we ever going to learn that internationals are the way forward to develop the game rather than convulted rubbish like this? Clearly we haven't learned anything from 2013...

I don't think it's a case of one or the other here. It's not like they could bang done internationals in place of this as it's on the same weekend as the WCC already is (which is important to the RL calendar).
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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:01 AM

Not sure an expanded WCC is what's required unless it's at the end of the season which would obviously impact on the few internationals we already have.

 

This is more the WCC plus a couple of other 'glamour' ties which I'm OK with. Anything that requires more than one round is going to require an extended stay by one set of teams or the other and will then muck up either league's schedule, more than likely SL.

 

If both season's started and ended at the same time, I'd be all for a two week tournament at the start of the year but that's not likely to happen.



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:02 AM

And unless things have changed, it won't be 2v2 and 3v3, as the NRL are sending whichever clubs fancy the trip - Souths and Brisbane last I saw.

 

I thought the whole segment on Boots n All was a bit odd actually. A breathless announcement to tell us that it hadn't been officially agreed on yet and an official announcement would be a few weeks away. 

 

 

yep...and wigan & leeds are gonna be playing to no matter what..........Lenaghan & hetherington have played a blinder here


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:05 AM

Clubs no doubt trying to line their pockets again... when are we ever going to learn that internationals are the way forward to develop the game rather than convulted rubbish like this? Clearly we haven't learned anything from 2013...

Indeed, it is a poor idea, with a dreadful format that takes us further away from what we should be doing ie reducing fixtures to play more internationals


Rugby League is a sport that desperately needs to expand its geographical supporter base and its player base. This imperative means that all other requirements are secondary until this is done.

All power in the game should be with governing bodies, especially international governing bodies.

Without these actions we will remain a minor sport internationally and nationally.

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:05 AM

Hopefully the venues will be announced soon. Hong Kong, Dubai, Tokyo, LA:

 

That way we know there'll be one match on a rainy February night in front of 15k at the SL champions home ground.


 

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#16 JohnM

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:24 AM

Anyone actually know the details, or just assuming that as its rugby league, it must be wrong?



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Posted 07 August 2014 - 09:53 AM

I hope it includes teams that are based on merit - like finishing top as mentioned - and not tokenistic inclusions of Catalan or Leeds or Wigan just because they were pushing the idea or are forrin.

 

The NRL will just do what they want.


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 10:34 AM

It sounds like just an expanded preseason series of exhibition matches.

As Thirteenthman said a couple of NRL teams said they would make up the numbers in an expanded format of the game.

 

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#19 scotchy

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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:07 AM

Clubs no doubt trying to line their pockets again... when are we ever going to learn that internationals are the way forward to develop the game rather than convulted rubbish like this? Clearly we haven't learned anything from 2013...

i think international club competition has huge potential. 

 

in fact rather than the pretty pointless top 8 where most of the positions will be decided early and there will be dead rubbers, we could have had a longer more meaningful play-offs (1 game and a final isnt a play-off series worthy of the name) and a real extended WCC without impacting on the international game.

 

Personally i think we should move towards amalgamating the two leagues with the NRL and SL becoming two conferences of the same competition and the winner being a true World Champion.

 

This 'challenge' that we are seeing is a bit of a proof of concept. It seems quite half-hearted to me. Im not sure that a series of friendlies will prove the attraction of a meaningful comp.


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Posted 07 August 2014 - 11:32 AM

i think international club competition has huge potential. 

 

in fact rather than the pretty pointless top 8 where most of the positions will be decided early and there will be dead rubbers, we could have had a longer more meaningful play-offs (1 game and a final isnt a play-off series worthy of the name) and a real extended WCC without impacting on the international game.

 

Personally i think we should move towards amalgamating the two leagues with the NRL and SL becoming two conferences of the same competition and the winner being a true World Champion.

 

This 'challenge' that we are seeing is a bit of a proof of concept. It seems quite half-hearted to me. Im not sure that a series of friendlies will prove the attraction of a meaningful comp.

 

 

The only problem with this idea is motivating the NRL Clubs and fans to embrace it as a competitive idea.

The NRL is run on a different beat than SL with more money and talent spread throughout the NRL.