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#1 ckn

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 12:02 PM

Quite probably the worst game of union I've seen in years, a dire try-less waste of time.  Both teams seemed to want to spend the game either cheating or complaining to the ref about the other side cheating, and what made it worse is that the ref had a real shocker getting some pretty big things wrong and seeming to make decisions based on who complained the most.  Most professional level refs would have lost patience with the dissent 10 minutes into the game and started showing yellow cards.  There was one example that just highlighted it all, scrum set and it looked fairly fine, Aussie flanker stood up and shouted across the scrum to the ref about something very pedantic, referee penalised NZ, 99% of refs would have penalised the Aussie for losing his binding and being a whiny complainer.

 

Final whistle went, nothing from the crowd at all beyond the murmur of a not quite full stadium of people discussing the best way to get out and wondering if there was a way to get their money back.  I've seen more crowd engagement at 2nd team amateur games.

 

If that's the pinnacle of union competition then some people really need their heads knocking together.


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#2 ckn

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 12:12 PM

I left the channel on while got my lunch, came back to see the end-program highlights, half of the "highlights" seemed to involve unpressured knock-ons or dire attacking runs or kicks that most union under 16 sides would be embarrassed of making.


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#3 Alfies Thumb

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 01:09 PM

Pretty horrific conditions but it wasn't the best spectacle. Thought NZ's defence saved them from a loss but a lot of dropped ball. Some weird refereeing decisions too.

 

Speaking of dropped ball and stoppages, I watch the Brisbane Club RU semi-final last week. First scrum occurred at the 65 minute mark! 



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Posted 16 August 2014 - 03:52 PM

Quite probably the worst game of union I've seen in years, a dire try-less waste of time.  Both teams seemed to want to spend the game either cheating or complaining to the ref about the other side cheating, and what made it worse is that the ref had a real shocker getting some pretty big things wrong and seeming to make decisions based on who complained the most.  Most professional level refs would have lost patience with the dissent 10 minutes into the game and started showing yellow cards.  There was one example that just highlighted it all, scrum set and it looked fairly fine, Aussie flanker stood up and shouted across the scrum to the ref about something very pedantic, referee penalised NZ, 99% of refs would have penalised the Aussie for losing his binding and being a whiny complainer.
 
Final whistle went, nothing from the crowd at all beyond the murmur of a not quite full stadium of people discussing the best way to get out and wondering if there was a way to get their money back.  I've seen more crowd engagement at 2nd team amateur games.
 
If that's the pinnacle of union competition then some people really need their heads knocking together.

And yet 70,000 people turned up! The same fixture in league would be lucky to attract 1/3 of that crowd in Sydney, either union fans are easy pleased or the ARU have the best marketing team on the planet!

#5 Pie tries

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 04:10 PM

Just proves internationals gets the coverage....RL learn from that. Plus also a renewed belief in our game - its fab fab fab !

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 05:05 PM

Just proves internationals gets the coverage....RL learn from that. Plus also a renewed belief in our game - its fab fab fab !


If given time to build a 3 test series between the kangaroos and kiwis would blow this garbage out of the water and could even match the SOO, the kiwis have never been in a stronger position what with the number of kiwis coming through the ranks at all of the 16 NRL clubs. Makes you wonder what the ARL and NZRL are waiting for, matches could be played in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Auckland, Wellington etc.

Edited by walter sobchak, 16 August 2014 - 05:08 PM.


#7 keighley

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 05:19 PM

If given time to build a 3 test series between the kangaroos and kiwis would blow this garbage out of the water and could even match the SOO, the kiwis have never been in a stronger position what with the number of kiwis coming through the ranks at all of the 16 NRL clubs. Makes you wonder what the ARL and NZRL are waiting for, matches could be played in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Auckland, Wellington etc.

 

The last time Aus played NZ at RL with something at stake they filled a 75,000 stadium on the other side of the world.



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Posted 16 August 2014 - 05:49 PM

The last time Aus played NZ at RL with something at stake they filled a 75,000 stadium on the other side of the world.


Exactly, on the other side of the world. There would have been 75,000 at the World Cup final whoever had got there as it was nearly sold out before anybody knew who the finalists were.

#9 Shadow

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 05:49 PM

The last time Aus played NZ at RL with something at stake they filled a 75,000 stadium on the other side of the world.

How many of those 75000 were Aussies or Kiwis?


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#10 Johnoco

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 10:20 PM

How many of those 75000 were Aussies or Kiwis?

4562 I think.



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Posted 16 August 2014 - 11:29 PM

A rather interesting feature of this game is that the total combined meters run by the teams that go under the names of Wallabies and the All Blacks was  421m.

Which is less than the top 3 OZ players made in the 2013 RLWC final, 466m.

Slater, Gallen and Hayne v  NZ + OZ RU. 



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Posted 17 August 2014 - 02:02 AM

I left the channel on while got my lunch, came back to see the end-program highlights, half of the "highlights" seemed to involve unpressured knock-ons or dire attacking runs or kicks that most union under 16 sides would be embarrassed of making.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 02:54 AM

I left the channel on while got my lunch, came back to see the end-program highlights, half of the "highlights" seemed to involve unpressured knock-ons or dire attacking runs or kicks that most union under 16 sides would be embarrassed of making.

 

And yet both of these "un-skilled" teams would towel every team from the NH.

 

A 12-12 scoreline is a rarity in the Southern Hemisphere yet that kind of game is generally par for the course in the 6N. 



#14 Shadow

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 05:22 AM

And yet both of these "un-skilled" teams would towel every team from the NH.

 

A 12-12 scoreline is a rarity in the Southern Hemisphere yet that kind of game is generally par for the course in the 6N. 

Utter cack on both counts.

England beat the Aussies last time they played, and will do again in the Autumn. I wouldn't want to pick a winner from France, Ireland or Wales against Australia either.


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Posted 17 August 2014 - 07:01 AM

Utter cack on both counts.

England beat the Aussies last time they played, and will do again in the Autumn. I wouldn't want to pick a winner from France, Ireland or Wales against Australia either.

 

Australia just beat France 3-0 in a series. They lost to England last year after an obvious obstruction was allowed and England scored. They've made Wales their ##### for a decade now. Ireland? Depends on which Ireland turns up.

 

NZ also just beat England in a 3 test series. 

 

Fact is, this kind of game is an aberration in SH but the norm in the NH. 


Edited by Alfies Thumb, 17 August 2014 - 07:03 AM.


#16 Middleton Bull

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 09:45 AM

Australia just beat France 3-0 in a series. They lost to England last year after an obvious obstruction was allowed and England scored. They've made Wales their ##### for a decade now. Ireland? Depends on which Ireland turns up.

 

NZ also just beat England in a 3 test series. 

 

Fact is, this kind of game is an aberration in SH but the norm in the NH. 

Now, now, you union guys stop arguing between yourselves about the ponderous code.  You'll have nothing left in the tank to denigrate RL. ;)



#17 Severus

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 10:03 AM

Australia just beat France 3-0 in a series. They lost to England last year after an obvious obstruction was allowed and England scored. They've made Wales their ##### for a decade now. Ireland? Depends on which Ireland turns up.
 
NZ also just beat England in a 3 test series. 
 
Fact is, this kind of game is an aberration in SH but the norm in the NH.


The six nations results don't seem to back up your argument.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...nations/results
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#18 C H Calthrop

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 10:22 AM

Australia just beat France 3-0 in a series. They lost to England last year after an obvious obstruction was allowed and England scored. They've made Wales their ##### for a decade now. Ireland? Depends on which Ireland turns up.

 

NZ also just beat England in a 3 test series. 

 

Fact is, this kind of game is an aberration in SH but the norm in the NH. 

Actually last years Rugby Championship showed 7 matches out of 12 where at least 1 team scored 1 try or less.

2012, it was 10 matches out of 12 with at least 1 team showing 1 try or less.

 

Another interesting fact is that if you combine the running with the ball of Arg, OZ, NZ and SA in the RC games so far it is 908 m.

Which is less than the top 8 OZ players in the opening game of the RLWC 2013 against Eng. 8 players v 60 not including the bench. 



#19 Mr Wind Up

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 11:05 AM

You must be a glutton for punishment if you watch sports you dislike. There are people that like rugby union, and I suspect your discontent wont rub off on them.

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Posted 17 August 2014 - 12:21 PM

A rather interesting feature of this game is that the total combined meters run by the teams that go under the names of Wallabies and the All Blacks was 421m.
Which is less than the top 3 OZ players made in the 2013 RLWC final, 466m.
Slater, Gallen and Hayne v NZ + OZ RU.


If you're catching the ball 10 to 15 metres away from the opposition, it's inevitable that you're going to have to run further before they can stop you.




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