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RLEF 12th Annual Council Meeting & Conference (Merged threads)


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#1 Honor James

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 08:25 AM

RLEF PREPARES FOR TWELFTH ANNUAL COUNCIL MEETING

 

Twenty-four countries - 21 Members and Observers and three unranked nations – will attend Friday’s twelfth RLEF Annual Council Meeting and Conference at Brunel University, West London, ahead of this weekend’s Tetley’s Challenge Cup final at Wembley, where they will be guests.

 

They include Georgia, represented by the recently incorporated Georgian Rugby League Federation, returning to an official RLEF meeting for the first time since 2006 and newly-formed Palestine RL.

 

Following the formal AGM, chaired by Maurice Watkins, the delegates will be addressed by International Federation chairman Nigel Wood, who will discuss the organization’s strategic priorities; the RFL’s David Butler, covering the English community game’s strategic support to RLEF nations; RLEF director Graeme Thompson on the federation’s future governance; and former MP David Hinchcliffe, a founder of the All-Party Parliamentary group integral in the sport’s fight for recognition, particularly in the armed forces, in the 1990s.

 

In addition, 21 coach tutor delegates are also attending as part of the EU Leadership Devolution Project, led by RLEF coach educator Martin Crick and Catalan Dragons’ Thierry Dumaine.

 

MEMBERS / OBSERVERS ATTENDING

Czech Republic (CZRLA), England (RFL), France (FFRXIII), Germany (RLD), Greece (HFRL), Ireland (RLI), Italy (FIRL), Jamaica (JRLA), Lebanon (LRLF), Malta (MRL), Norway (RLN), Scotland (SRL), Serbia (SRLF), Ukraine (UFRL), Wales (WRL).

Belgium (BRLA), Denmark (DRLF), Hungary (HRLF), Netherlands (NRLB), Spain (AERL), UAE (UAERL).

 

UNRANKED NATIONS

Palestine, Georgia, Romania


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#2 EdinburghExile

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 11:54 AM

Interesting to see Georgia showing face - have they got over their huff after being kicked out in the 90s?



#3 Evil Homer

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 06:22 PM

Interesting to see Georgia showing face - have they got over their huff after being kicked out in the 90s?

They were kicked out in 2006 and this is a different organization.



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Posted 21 August 2014 - 09:16 PM

They were kicked out in 2006 and this is a different organization.


Why were they kicked out ?

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 05:45 AM

Why were they kicked out ?

They were kicked out of the early stages of the World Cup Qualifiers in 2006 (for the 2008 World Cup), IIRC it was something to do with them forfeiting a match in Russia due to claims of problems with visas only for it to emerge that the team was actually away representing Georgia at rugby union. It was a great shame TBH because the team was relatively strong, they beat Serbia and Holland easily and the match against Holland attracted over 10,000 fans. What they did was also totally unnecessary because they had already qualified for the next stage where they were due to meet Wales and Scotland for a place in the RLWC.

 

They weren't in a 'huff' BTW as the OP states, they were officially thrown out of the RLIF and banned from international competition. You'd think they would easily be one of the strongest nations in Europe today if they hadn't screwed up.


Edited by Evil Homer, 22 August 2014 - 05:47 AM.


#6 EdinburghExile

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Posted 22 August 2014 - 12:16 PM

They were kicked out in 2006 and this is a different organization.

Oh aye, what's a decade between friends? :pickeat:



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Posted 22 August 2014 - 01:32 PM

They were kicked out of the early stages of the World Cup Qualifiers in 2006 (for the 2008 World Cup), IIRC it was something to do with them forfeiting a match in Russia due to claims of problems with visas only for it to emerge that the team was actually away representing Georgia at rugby union. It was a great shame TBH because the team was relatively strong, they beat Serbia and Holland easily and the match against Holland attracted over 10,000 fans. What they did was also totally unnecessary because they had already qualified for the next stage where they were due to meet Wales and Scotland for a place in the RLWC.

 

They weren't in a 'huff' BTW as the OP states, they were officially thrown out of the RLIF and banned from international competition. You'd think they would easily be one of the strongest nations in Europe today if they hadn't screwed up.

Imagine that, banned for playing a different code of Rugby.  :ph34r:


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Posted 22 August 2014 - 09:58 PM

They were kicked out of the early stages of the World Cup Qualifiers in 2006 (for the 2008 World Cup), IIRC it was something to do with them forfeiting a match in Russia due to claims of problems with visas only for it to emerge that the team was actually away representing Georgia at rugby union. It was a great shame TBH because the team was relatively strong, they beat Serbia and Holland easily and the match against Holland attracted over 10,000 fans. What they did was also totally unnecessary because they had already qualified for the next stage where they were due to meet Wales and Scotland for a place in the RLWC.

 

They weren't in a 'huff' BTW as the OP states, they were officially thrown out of the RLIF and banned from international competition. You'd think they would easily be one of the strongest nations in Europe today if they hadn't screwed up.

Not quite how it went in reality.

 

Only two or at the most three of the League guys where duel coded players at international level.

I checked the team list's on the union website against the RL teams that played Holland and Serbia.

 

Talking to a lot of the Georgian guys in Tblisi  in 2006 most of them had spent time fighting in South Ossetia which was claiming independence from Georgia (backed by Russia) and which Georgia had tried to take back.

 

At the time there was a lot of tension between Russia and Georgia.

I would go as far as say genuine hatred from the Georgia side.

 

In 2004 a western(US) backed president took charge of Georgia (Saakashvili) in the Rose Revolution which did'nt go down well in the Kremlin as Saakashvili wanted to take back control of South Ossetia and Abkhazia and Georgia briefly entered South Ossetia in 2004 which upset the Russians more.

(If you remember early in 2008 (world cup year) the two countries fought a brief war over South Ossetia)

 

 

A year later in 2005 Georgia started playing League......  their first game in the Netherlands.

In 2006 the RLEF decided that the three new countries in Europe ,Serbia,Holland and Georgia would play in what would be the first European "B" Championships which was basically brought together by the three countries themselves as Holland and Serbia had also played each other in 2005.

 

At short notice the new European "B" tournament was changed to a World Cup qualification tournament and Russia (who at the time where a lot stronger than the new countries) where included in the group.

The original fixtures saw 

Russia v Holland

Serbia v Georgia

Holland  v Georgia

Russia v Serbia

Serbia v Holland

GEORGIA V RUSSIA

Russia where not happy with the programme and complained to the RLEF, the fixtures where altered so Russia traveled to Holland (opening game any where in the world for the 2008 RLWC Qualifiers) and Georgia then had to travel to Moscow.

(This also affected the Dutch who had budgeted for Moscow..Tblisi was double the cost !!)

 

 I think this was a ploy by the Russian RL Federation to take advantage of the turmoil in the region.

 

I spent many hours on the phone to the guys in Tblisi and Belgrade and the RLEF.

The RLEF wouldnt budge despite Holland,Serbia and Georgia trying to get back to the original schedule.

 

 Russia made it difficult for the Georgians to get visa's. I was told they where issued less than 24 hours before game day.

Georgia had already told the RLEF they where not happy about going to Moscow .

Tthe RLEF didn't take into account the tensions between the two nations when changing the fixtures.

I believe they bowed down to a strong Russian RL Federation at the time and Georgia threw their toys out of the pram.

 

Georgia never turned up but don't believe it was because they where all away playing rugby union............Maybe if the game had stayed in Tblisi the Russians might not have turned up..such was the state of affairs at the time.

 

The ban came about not because of their forfeiting the game but what went on between the Georgia RL and the RLEF  after the no show in Moscow.

 

The Netherlands RL at the time also copped a ban by the RLEF so the first RL WC qualifiers saw two of the four "New " nations thrown out leaving at the time Russia and Serbia flying the flag for development.

 

The RLEF was a new organisation and had a lot of teething problems back then....I look back to the 2006 WC Qualifiers and believe they learned a lot through what happened and are more inclined today to listen to the guys doing the hard yards on the ground.

 

Great to see Georgia back on the scene because as you state they could have been a big success and when we played in Tblisi on Independence day it was an awesome experience.


Edited by yanto, 22 August 2014 - 09:59 PM.


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 02:00 PM

Not quite how it went in reality.
 
Only two or at the most three of the League guys where duel coded players at international level.
I checked the team list's on the union website against the RL teams that played Holland and Serbia.
 
Talking to a lot of the Georgian guys in Tblisi  in 2006 most of them had spent time fighting in South Ossetia which was claiming independence from Georgia (backed by Russia) and which Georgia had tried to take back.
 
At the time there was a lot of tension between Russia and Georgia.
I would go as far as say genuine hatred from the Georgia side.
 
In 2004 a western(US) backed president took charge of Georgia (Saakashvili) in the Rose Revolution which did'nt go down well in the Kremlin as Saakashvili wanted to take back control of South Ossetia and Abkhazia and Georgia briefly entered South Ossetia in 2004 which upset the Russians more.
(If you remember early in 2008 (world cup year) the two countries fought a brief war over South Ossetia)
 
 
A year later in 2005 Georgia started playing League......  their first game in the Netherlands.
In 2006 the RLEF decided that the three new countries in Europe ,Serbia,Holland and Georgia would play in what would be the first European "B" Championships which was basically brought together by the three countries themselves as Holland and Serbia had also played each other in 2005.
 
At short notice the new European "B" tournament was changed to a World Cup qualification tournament and Russia (who at the time where a lot stronger than the new countries) where included in the group.
The original fixtures saw 
Russia v Holland
Serbia v Georgia
Holland  v Georgia
Russia v Serbia
Serbia v Holland
GEORGIA V RUSSIA
Russia where not happy with the programme and complained to the RLEF, the fixtures where altered so Russia traveled to Holland (opening game any where in the world for the 2008 RLWC Qualifiers) and Georgia then had to travel to Moscow.
(This also affected the Dutch who had budgeted for Moscow..Tblisi was double the cost !!)
 
 I think this was a ploy by the Russian RL Federation to take advantage of the turmoil in the region.
 
I spent many hours on the phone to the guys in Tblisi and Belgrade and the RLEF.
The RLEF wouldnt budge despite Holland,Serbia and Georgia trying to get back to the original schedule.
 
 Russia made it difficult for the Georgians to get visa's. I was told they where issued less than 24 hours before game day.
Georgia had already told the RLEF they where not happy about going to Moscow .
Tthe RLEF didn't take into account the tensions between the two nations when changing the fixtures.
I believe they bowed down to a strong Russian RL Federation at the time and Georgia threw their toys out of the pram.
 
Georgia never turned up but don't believe it was because they where all away playing rugby union............Maybe if the game had stayed in Tblisi the Russians might not have turned up..such was the state of affairs at the time.
 
The ban came about not because of their forfeiting the game but what went on between the Georgia RL and the RLEF  after the no show in Moscow.
 
The Netherlands RL at the time also copped a ban by the RLEF so the first RL WC qualifiers saw two of the four "New " nations thrown out leaving at the time Russia and Serbia flying the flag for development.
 
The RLEF was a new organisation and had a lot of teething problems back then....I look back to the 2006 WC Qualifiers and believe they learned a lot through what happened and are more inclined today to listen to the guys doing the hard yards on the ground.
 
Great to see Georgia back on the scene because as you state they could have been a big success and when we played in Tblisi on Independence day it was an awesome experience.


Thank's for setting out what really happened. Looking at he Georgian RU team's success, kit seems we missed a great opportunity in a real rugby county.

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 07:26 AM

They were kicked out of the early stages of the World Cup Qualifiers in 2006 (for the 2008 World Cup), IIRC it was something to do with them forfeiting a match in Russia due to claims of problems with visas only for it to emerge that the team was actually away representing Georgia at rugby union. It was a great shame TBH because the team was relatively strong, they beat Serbia and Holland easily and the match against Holland attracted over 10,000 fans. What they did was also totally unnecessary because they had already qualified for the next stage where they were due to meet Wales and Scotland for a place in the RLWC.

 

They weren't in a 'huff' BTW as the OP states, they were officially thrown out of the RLIF and banned from international competition. You'd think they would easily be one of the strongest nations in Europe today if they hadn't screwed up.

 

Did they only have 13 players in Georgia?



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Posted 24 August 2014 - 02:16 PM

RLEF PREPARES FOR TWELFTH ANNUAL COUNCIL MEETING

 

Twenty-four countries - 21 Members and Observers and three unranked nations – will attend Friday’s twelfth RLEF Annual Council Meeting and Conference at Brunel University, West London, ahead of this weekend’s Tetley’s Challenge Cup final at Wembley, where they will be guests.

 

They include Georgia, represented by the recently incorporated Georgian Rugby League Federation, returning to an official RLEF meeting for the first time since 2006 and newly-formed Palestine RL.

 

Following the formal AGM, chaired by Maurice Watkins, the delegates will be addressed by International Federation chairman Nigel Wood, who will discuss the organization’s strategic priorities; the RFL’s David Butler, covering the English community game’s strategic support to RLEF nations; RLEF director Graeme Thompson on the federation’s future governance; and former MP David Hinchcliffe, a founder of the All-Party Parliamentary group integral in the sport’s fight for recognition, particularly in the armed forces, in the 1990s.

 

In addition, 21 coach tutor delegates are also attending as part of the EU Leadership Devolution Project, led by RLEF coach educator Martin Crick and Catalan Dragons’ Thierry Dumaine.

 

MEMBERS / OBSERVERS ATTENDING

Czech Republic (CZRLA), England (RFL), France (FFRXIII), Germany (RLD), Greece (HFRL), Ireland (RLI), Italy (FIRL), Jamaica (JRLA), Lebanon (LRLF), Malta (MRL), Norway (RLN), Scotland (SRL), Serbia (SRLF), Ukraine (UFRL), Wales (WRL).

Belgium (BRLA), Denmark (DRLF), Hungary (HRLF), Netherlands (NRLB), Spain (AERL), UAE (UAERL).

 

UNRANKED NATIONS

Palestine, Georgia, Romania

 

How come Sweden didn't attend?



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Posted 24 August 2014 - 05:54 PM

How come Sweden didn't attend?

It was arranged that the Danish delegate will represent them too, allowing them to concentrate on organisation for the upcoming game against Norway.


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 08:17 AM

Not quite how it went in reality.

 

etc etc

Top info, thanks!



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Posted 25 August 2014 - 01:59 PM

It was arranged that the Danish delegate will represent them too, allowing them to concentrate on organisation for the upcoming game against Norway.

How's the head?


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Posted 25 August 2014 - 08:41 PM

How's the head?

On the road to recovery.  It was good to catch up with you!


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 02:03 PM

Twenty-four nations from three regions – the Americas, Europe and Middle East-Africa - attended the twelfth Annual Council Meeting and fifth RLEF Conference in London.

 

“The Council meeting was certainly the most energetic yet,” said Maurice Watkins, RLEF chairman. “The membership is increasingly involved and contributing in a very practical way to the direction in which the RLEF travels.”

 

“Participation is up virtually across the board – in the case of Wales, Jamaica, Serbia and Ukraine quite dramatically – while improved governance practices have led to a more confident, self-sufficient membership corps.”

 

Delegates were brought up to date on progress of the current seven year strategy plan, at its half-way point and due to run until 2017, which included:

 

- Eighteen countries now have domestic championships compared with 12 four years ago

- Eleven nations have government recognition, compared with seven in 2010

- There are eleven Full Members compared with five in 2010; eight Affiliates compared with five and 12 Observers compared with eight

- Prior to 2010, the RLEF had not raised any external funding. This compares with €525.000 accrued from 2010-13

- 16 coach and 14 match official tutors have been trained and qualified by the RLEF and are currently delivering Level 1 courses throughout the Federation

 

In other news, the results of the 2014 Member Director elections saw incumbents Nebojsa Sretenovic (Serbia) and Graeme Thompson (Scotland) re-elected for a third term.

 

The membership voted to rename the annual meeting the RLEF “Congress” and chose to rotate it around Europe, with members invited to bid for hosting rights on an annual basis.

 

Nine Full Members, six Affiliate Members and six Observers were present and joined by un-ranked nations Georgia, Palestine and Romania.

 

MEMBERS / OBSERVERS ATTENDING

Czech Republic (CZRLA), England (RFL), France (FFRXIII), Germany (RLD), Greece (HFRL), Ireland (RLI), Italy (FIRL), Jamaica (JRLA), Lebanon (LRLF), Malta (MRL), Norway (RLN), Scotland (SRL), Serbia (SRLF), Ukraine (UFRL), Wales (WRL).

Belgium (BRLA), Denmark (DRLF), Hungary (HRLF), Netherlands (NRLB), Spain (AERL), UAE (UAERL).

 

UNRANKED NATIONS

Palestine, Georgia, Romania


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