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Honor James

Member Since 14 Apr 2004
Offline Last Active Oct 01 2014 03:10 PM

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In Topic: Rugby League Heritage Hits The Road

01 October 2014 - 03:10 PM

They have not bought an Artic as a display, the exhibits are transported in a large van, the largest, I was told, before it becomes a lorrie. It will be displayed in a suitable venue at each location.


More info here -  http://www.therfl.co...eritage-on-tour


There you are, that's it.  They've already got the display cases I was thinking of.


In fact those may be some of the very ones I remember seeing around the room when the collection was at The George.  So all it needs now is a whole lot more of those cases with items appropriate to the various major topics covered by the storyboards - appropriately displayed of course, not just jammed in - and bob's yer uncle really.


It wouldn't take a hundred years to get that done ............ or even one.

In Topic: Rugby League Heritage Hits The Road

30 September 2014 - 04:28 PM

The collection in the George wasn't Stevo's collection, it was Stevo's along with some of the RFL's artefacts along with items loaned to the exhibition by individuals.


The problem with the exhibition in the George was the amount of stuff in a relatively small area and there was no narrative for the most part.


I believe the RFL are in discussions about a permanent exhibition.


I agree with that Padge, the space at the George was rather small, and an appropriate narrative for the uninitiated visitor was lacking, to put that specific collection and its individual items into context, in relation to the whole history and culture of the game.


But it was alive.  This one needs the breath of life if it is to have children `nose to the glass' at every venue, which is surely the only end worth pursuing when it comes to this kind of thing.  Passing it on down the generations.  Succeeding generations who, despite some hard times, have always been net receivers from the joy of the game, paying the interest on that joy back down the generations with our voluntary labour, gifts as we can afford to give them, and unstinting, unqualified love.


There are current players doing so in many small ways, in their own, off-field time every week of the year.  Surely it is not wrong to hope that we who are unable to play, but know the joy that comes from watching excellence, can at least attempt to match their off-field performance.


Things was all I was on about earlier.  Don't dismiss `things in boxes' find the right way to use the concrete expression they are, of the living thing called Rugby league that we are all hoping this exhibition will illuminate ........


in spades!

In Topic: Rugby League Heritage Hits The Road

30 September 2014 - 04:07 PM

What do you class as "no vast, unthinkable cost" for a practical and easily transportable display case?


Hundreds certainly, rather than thousands?  Or at most, somewhere very near the bottom half of ten thousand.


Tony Collins mentioned a `most generous grant' from the Heritage Lottery Fund in his opening address, and I think Chris Rostron may have alluded to it as well.  These things normally come in tens of thousands, not barely useless chicken feed packets.  And to date, among new items added to the collection I saw eight, ten, fifteen times while it was at the George,  all I could have identified as new yesterday were the storyboards, which in exhibition terms are among the less costly items required.


Have we bought an `artic' perhaps that just wasn't mentioned yesterday ..... to house this mobile exhibit, I mean, like the one Rugby Union has permanently equipped?


That would put a different complexion on what I took to be no more than the usual, north country statement of strife against unimaginable odds.  That is so invariable for Rugby League - come rain come shine - that it clearly has to be a de rigeur pose, a matter of regional etiquette I mean, rather than any statement of fact or close to fact.


For my part, as newcomer to the game (and a late returner to the north of England), it took a while before i was able to stop crediting it but after twelve years of patently obvious survival, in the face of declared hardship amounting always to near bankruptcy, how else to stay sane?

In Topic: Rugby League Heritage Hits The Road

30 September 2014 - 02:48 PM

I think there is room for both. The storyboard displays can give a narrative which can be made more real and enhanced by displaying actual artifascts linked to the point in question.. What happend to the proposal to put Stevo's collection from the George on displayat Huddersfield University. Surely there is room for a mobile travelling exhibit such as this and a more permanent, b igger Heritage display mina museum like setting.


I couldn't agree more, with the proviso that for the travelling display, as I have forcefully stated my case above, a 45% storyboard element would balance more effectively with 55% of appropriately selected, concrete items to illustrate the main focus of each succeeding board.


Not everything, surely, needs to be displayed in a `bullet proof' show case.  Surely a series of those lockable, glass-fronted artifact display cabinets would do for most things.  The ones with a sloping glass lid that closes over the top.  Small ones - any decent joiner could knock those up at no vast, unthinkable cost.  Or are we to assume that our governing body believes that the game's adherents in the places where they plan to take this exhibition, cannot be trusted not to maul, tear borrow without asking and or just plain steal any exhibit that isn't bolted to the floor?


Surely not.

In Topic: Rugby League Heritage Hits The Road

30 September 2014 - 02:33 PM

That's a long winded way of saying you didn't like it.


I thought the story boards were great and many focused on aspects of the game that don't normally get a look in.


As a travelling exhibition the thing first and foremeost is that it has to be tansportable and be easy to take down and erect. It also has to be insurable. Carting a large quantity of valuable items around to places where you have no control over security is a risk, a risk that an insurance company will charge a very large premium for.


Did you bother to view the archive footage from 1907, 1929 etc. or did you just dismiss that as too modern as it was shown on ipads.


1)   Long winded, yes, and intentionally so (as usual for me when i write on here).  My intention was to illustrate why, in my view, we will do a disservice to the courageous, living, breathing men (of whatever social order) who sweated and swore, spat and farted (and yes, occasionally clapped at a referee in derision) on and through the cold, wet mud of old-fashioned, often ill-drained grounds, for no more than their love of the game and a pittance to feed their kids on to replace docked wages for broken time.

A disservice, I say again, if all we are able to do is pack them down, sanitised and safe into a flat-pack pile, easily and cheaply transportable, and as far a possible to keep things easy, devoid of the things they used, wore, made and hoarded with love and a single-minded dedication that many of us now would laugh at as foolish.

Yes, a disservice to them and to us and our grandchildren, I say, if we hawk the game around the country in a flat-pack case and take with it no more than a polite smattering of the things that speak loudest to the human lives of the men who were, have been and are its very heart and soul.


2)   No, I did not view the archive footage yesterday, mainly because I am privileged to have seen much of that footage before, quite a lot of it more that once because it interests me a great deal, and because I expect there will be future opportunities for me and others fortunate as I am, to see again what I have seen along with the newly added stuff.


Where there is a will to do something there is almost always a way.  It may just take a bit longer to get it all right.