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Human Punk

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#3147572 Paul Wellens Retires

Posted by Human Punk on 26 June 2015 - 08:40 AM

Wellens was and is a Saints legend, and it's difficult to think of anyone who gave more for their club, from that GF where he got his cheekbone smashed early on in a typical act of bravery, to a derby game last year where he got a bad head knock in a tackle, staggered to his feet clearly not knowing where he was, but still threw himself into another tackle to stop Wigan breaking downfield. He really gave the impression that he'd literally be willing to die for the jersey - way more than anyone would have asked of him, and more than any other player I can think of. His emotional reaction to winning the GF last year after so many disappointments was one of RL's iconic images.

Wellens was never the flashiest player, but as a last line of defence was without equal for so many years. Ultimately he deserves to be remembered as probably the greatest clubman in RL, more so than, for example, Kevin Sinfield, which is not to underestimate Sir Kev's contribution to Leeds in any way.

Good luck and best wishes in your retirement Paul.

#3137367 BBC again

Posted by Human Punk on 08 June 2015 - 03:07 PM

I wouldn't worry too much - if the waffle coming from the new Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport last week's any thing to go by the Beeb in its present form's doomed anyway.

I hope not. I really enjoyed watching the formula 1 qualifiers for 3 hours on Saturday evening prime time.

#3131282 State of Origin Game 1 (Spoilers)

Posted by Human Punk on 29 May 2015 - 11:36 AM

Maybe it was just a one-off bad game but that was rather rubbish wasn't it. WIthout wishing to cause any offence, it was a bit like watching Hull FC v Widnes. If you were to describe that as top level then the whole game's in trouble. 

I don't doubt that NSW or QLD would have been competitive in the 4 nations in the same way that Fiji would have been, but compared to the quality of NZ in the ANZAC test for example, they're a long way off.

Hopefully this will go some way to putting international RL at the top of the tree for a change.

#3026215 02/11/14 - Australia v England KO 5am (GMT)

Posted by Human Punk on 03 November 2014 - 11:16 AM

Any evidence of these better cases?


So now a ball must be grounded 'in a meaningful way'?

1) There are way too many to list, and you know that. Just think back to all of those times you had to listen to Eddie or Stevo banging on about 'he had no control over that' or the like. And most of those 'tries' were rightly disallowed also.

2) Yes, for me. I'd never be happy to see a try given for a fleeting fingertip brush. Looking for a try for that smacks of desperation.


We're asking a VR to knock Australia out of a tournament on a very, very flimsy basis. It was never going to happen, regardless of the nationality of the VR, and rightly so. Of course I'd have liked to have seen the Aussies out, but not in that way. As it is, the Aussies can still go out, and I hope, if it happens, it's clear cut and unarguable.

#3026165 02/11/14 - Australia v England KO 5am (GMT)

Posted by Human Punk on 03 November 2014 - 10:44 AM

I can't believe so many people are going mental over the no-try. Come on folks, it was never a try. Be honest with yourselves. Even if you can make a technical argument for a finger brushing a ball as it rolls out of play, there's no way you could say it was grounded by Hall in any meaningful way. I've never seen a try given in SL in those circumstances, and seen plenty better cases not awarded to boot. We can't ask for different treatment, and a decision that would have been viewed with bemusement in SL, just because we wanted so much to beat the Aussies. 


The general refereeing in the 2nd half (Inglis no-try excepted) was pretty poor though and did us no favours.

#3006667 05/10/14 - Oldham v Hunslet Hawks KO 4.05pm (TV)

Posted by Human Punk on 03 October 2014 - 08:10 AM

Realistically, where else could Oldham play? Bury FC (do FC United have a ground yet)? Is there anywhere else round about north Manchester?

Anyway, now that Saints are in the GF again who'd bet against a six-in-a-row double for both them and Oldham.

#3002838 League Leaders Shield: Increase the prestige.

Posted by Human Punk on 26 September 2014 - 08:14 AM

I don't think we want to diminish the importance of the GF too much, but the balance insn't right at the moment. Of the suggestions already put forward, certainly more money for finishing top would help make it more of a target for the clubs at least. Giving the trophy a proper name too, which would stop the hub-cap references, would also help. Not sure we need any more than that.

#2942299 How do you rate Gene Ormsby?

Posted by Human Punk on 10 June 2014 - 08:25 AM

I've been impressed. Shows a lot of confidence for a rookie, and hasn't looked at all out of place in a good side.

If only he didn't look so much like Sean Connery.

#2933737 22/05/14 - Salford Red Devils v Wigan Warriors KO 8pm (Sky Sports)

Posted by Human Punk on 23 May 2014 - 08:57 AM

Pretty sure that's what he's trying to do, build an attractive team, but these things take time. Season has been disappointing for sure so far for us but baby steps are being taken in the right direction.

I like Salford, and Dr K, but replacing Nobby with Iestyn was a huge step in the wrong direction. Salford were woeful last night, and if they continue in this vein I can see Harris being emptied before the end of the season. In any event I'll be amazed if he's still in the job next year.

As for the team, where to start? Tim Smith can throw a good dummy, but nothing else to indicate how he was ever a top young player. Hock and Hansen are shadows of the players they were at Wigan. Gleeson and Puletua are too old. Meli, contrary to poplar opinion, still looks OK to me (10 tries in that team is pretty impressive). Sad to say also, but Morley was past it last year and is now painful to watch. You can't blame him wanting a last season at his hometown club, but I doubt this is how he'd want to be remembered.

And the rest of the players were never anything other than average at best.

I'm struggling to think of a side that I'd be confident Salford could beat at present. Hopefully Dr K will stick with it and Salford will the the success I'd love to see, but it's not going to be this season.

#2920510 James Graham: "Trent Hodkinson for England"

Posted by Human Punk on 24 April 2014 - 11:17 AM

I'd be happy to have him if he's good enough. I don't see why we should want to deprive his old man of the chance to see his lad representing his country.


He's plainly half English. He's even got a half Australian, half English name.

#2916157 11/04/14 - Castleford Tigers v St Helens KO 8pm (Sky Sports)

Posted by Human Punk on 14 April 2014 - 07:52 AM

What a great game that was. Reminded me of that Saints v Dragons match where Saints were miles ahead. In exactly the same way, some outrageous off the cuff play, a huge amount of luck and a bad refereeing decision turned the game on its head in the last minute.


Can't really blame the ref for missing the Turner knock on, as it looked like he was trying to offload the ball backwards, and from where the ref was, that's exactly what seemed to happen.


I do think that Saints, for reasons I can't imagine, underestimated Cas (if Wilkin's attitude at the start was in any way representative) and Brown's 'tinkerman' tendency was equally to blame for their woeful 1st half display. Cas certainly made the most of it, and didn't really deserve to lose. At the end of the day it was probably that tackle on Huby that made him lose the ball when diving under the sticks that gave Saints the chance to steal it at the end.


Small consolation to Cas fans, but the sport was the real winner there.

#2905655 23/03/14 - Wakefield Trinity Wildcats v St Helens KO 3pm

Posted by Human Punk on 25 March 2014 - 04:35 PM

The idea that our discipline has gone down the pan is stupid anyway. We once rolled teams out with the likes of Nickle, Forber, Fogerty or Haggerty in them ! Today's blokes are angels compared to the past.

While I broadly agree with your assessment, I feel you could have spared a moment to include Vila Matautia in that list.

#2901371 England head coach Steve McNamara happy selecting Kevin Sinfield

Posted by Human Punk on 18 March 2014 - 04:30 PM

The only thing Kevin Sinfield will be remembered for now in his international career is that missed tackle.

Nah, he'll be remembered for more than that.

What about the aimless kick infield to RTS instead of putting it out of play?

#2859197 celtic combined team

Posted by Human Punk on 03 January 2014 - 04:05 PM

It may well be worse than nothing. While I enjoyed the Exiles matches, last time round there wasn't the same proportion of England players missing, which will now be about half the team if we include Reed. As things stand, only France and Wales can put out anything like a full team mid-season.Trying to big up what amounts to an England 'B' team may well devalue the brand which gained so much during the world cup.

If we can't get a proper mid-season window, I'd rather leave it until the end of the year.

#2859165 celtic combined team

Posted by Human Punk on 03 January 2014 - 03:09 PM

The other problem with this fixture, and it's a big one, is that currently a mid-season fixture involving England isn't even bring a proper England team either, which means that an England v Celts match will involve 20-odd players who are, without wanting to sound harsh, not top class. That's why no-one wants to go watch. And this will only get worse if more of our talent goes to the NRL.

Unless we can have a proper mid-season window that would allow the teams as constituted during the world cup to come together, then there's no point to any of it. But if we can have that, then there are any number of countries (e.g. Italy or Scotland) who could give England a reasonable game.