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thirteenthman

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#3028715 France should be in four nations

Posted by thirteenthman on 07 November 2014 - 05:08 PM

The fact that Catalans are in France, Catalonian national aspirations notwithstanding, means that in spite of SL membership they are still subject to the French RL and should be releasing their players for France and, indeed , it should be compulsory for them to do so just as English clubs must release their players for England. 

 

 

And Catalans Dragons do release players for international duty. But if those players decline to make themselves available for selection due to injury, surgery or simply because they feel they need a long off season, there's precious little the French Federation can do about it. In just the same way the Welsh team are without several SL players who for whatever reason are not available. You could then shift the blame onto the players themselves, but perhaps they might ask more of the games authorities who seem happy to have players playing an ever more demanding game for 10 months of the year. 




#3019288 "Rugby league's international failure is spectacular"

Posted by thirteenthman on 24 October 2014 - 04:20 PM

There is one vital thing that our administrators could do, however.

Nigel Wood was appointed as the Chairman of the Rugby League International Federation earlier this year, and he has said that he wants to develop the international game far beyond where it currently finds itself.
More power to his elbow.
I hope he will be able to somehow persuade the Australians that international Rugby League is indeed performing way below its potential. That is partly because the Australians are so dominant, but also because our international game is viewed as an add-on at the end of the season that burnt-out players often have to miss as they undergo repairs to various injuries.
And we can hardly blame club coaches for taking that attitude. We have already seen how players who pull out of the international game, like Jamie Peacock, are able to extend their careers by doing so.
The only long term solution to the problem is to shorten the club season and to insert the international season into the regular club season.
That is what every other sport does, and it seems to work for them.
What’s so different about Rugby League?
The Australians already do it with State of Origin.
We simply need to persuade them to treat the international game in the same way, so that it can be seen as an integral part of the season, so gaining the attention, the audiences and the commercial support that it surely deserves.

 

 

Obviously I'd agree with the point about shortening the club season to make room for internationals, but this piece seems to infer that it's only the Aussies that need convincing. Considering we haven't got any mid season Internationals planned anymore (unlike the Aussies who still have the Anzac test, for now at least), I'd suggest Nigel Wood should start a little nearer to home in trying to persuade the great and good of our game that internationals shouldn't just be an end of season after thought. 




#3018929 "Rugby league's international failure is spectacular"

Posted by thirteenthman on 24 October 2014 - 07:41 AM

People blaming Origin are missing the point. Even if Origin were removed from the calendar, we would still only be able to play Internationals at the end of the season because of how many club games get played. In this country, we couldn't even find room for one mid season International this year, and still the clubs would happily play yet more matches. And it's the clubs who insist on players pulling out of end of season tournaments. We'll end up with some players only international appearances being every 4 years at the World Cup. 

 

It's that club v country balance which has tilted massively in favour of the clubs, and I genuinely don't know if the will is there to try and push it back even just a little bit in the direction of the International game. 




#3016960 International game needs long-term strategy: Wood

Posted by thirteenthman on 20 October 2014 - 04:09 PM

Yep, absolutely. That said, RU and Football have strong club games and still support their International game.

 

This is where strong leadership is needed - if England were on tour mid-season, I see no reason why crowds would drop off at regular home games if some teams had to rely on two or three youth players for a few weekends. Of course relegation adds a slight complication into this, but it was no better under licensing.

 

We either want the game to grow or we don't - at the moment it is quite easy to say that we don't.

 

I guess it comes down to what football and Union both have that we don't - a strong world governing body. Whether the RLIF can ever become that seems unlikely. There's too much power in the two main club competitions for things to change.




#3011589 "International Rugby League makes me angry!"

Posted by thirteenthman on 11 October 2014 - 03:22 PM

Pardon my cynicism for a moment, but I assume Mr Richardson and his fellow 'like-minded big thinkers' at the NRL and SL clubs will be happy for their clubs to play less matches so we can make some room in the season to actually play some International matches and tournaments mid season. The kind of big events that could showcase the game on the global stage, preferably played at a time when players aren't pulling out because said clubs want them to have surgery done so as to be fit in time for the start of the new club season. Or is Mr Richardson referring simply to more of the big events that might include, and financially benefit his own club?




#3009127 Thank you G Las D

Posted by thirteenthman on 07 October 2014 - 12:50 PM

Well said RF - Thanks G  :)




#3009123 TotalRL Forum NRL Tipping Competition Ladder 2014 - Final Positions for the 2...

Posted by thirteenthman on 07 October 2014 - 12:47 PM

Well done Southstander  :clapping:




#3007937 TotalRL NRL Tipping Competition 2014 GRAND FINAL - Results Posted; Awards Pre...

Posted by thirteenthman on 05 October 2014 - 04:31 PM

Here's the answers (open to correction)

 

Winners -  Rabbitohs

First Scorer - Alex Johnston

Half Time - 6-0

Full Time - 30-6

Points - 36

Number of Tries - 6

 

Nearly everyone tipped the Bunnies  ;)

 

Marv and Railway End got the points spot on, which I think makes them winners this week

 

Thanks, as ever, to G for all his hard work in running the comp again this year. 




#3006280 State Championship on Premier Sports

Posted by thirteenthman on 02 October 2014 - 03:48 PM

So Premier Sports have finally sorted out their schedule for Sunday morning, and not only are they showing the Holden Cup Final between Brisbane and NZ Warriors, but they're also showing the inaugural State Championship live. This pits NSW Cup winners Penrith against Queensland Cup champions Northern Pride. This should be a good match, and there's more than one or two familiar names taking part.

 

 

PANTHERS - 1. KIERAN MOSS 2. ETO NABULI 3. WAQA BLAKE 4. KEVIN NAIQAMA 5. WES NAIQAMA 6. LUKE CAPEWELL 7. TOM HUMBLE 8. SAM ANDERSON 9. KEVIN KINGSTON 10. REAGAN CAMPBELL-GILLARD 11. BEN MURDOCH MASILA 12. NATHAN SMITH 13. RYAN SIMPKINS 14. VAIPUNA TIA KILIFI 15. KIERRAN MOSELEY 16. LEILANI LATU 17. ANDY SAUNDERS COACH: GARTH BRENNAN

 

PRIDE – 1. HEZRON MURGHA 2. JAVID BOWEN 3. BRETT ANDERSON © 4. KYLE FELDT 5. SEMI TADULALA 6. SHAUN NONA 7. SAM OBST 8. RICKY THORBY 9. JASON ROOS © 10. ETHAN LOWE 11. BLAKE LEARY 12. TYRONE MCCARTHY 13. BEN SPINA 14. RYAN GHIETTI 15. SHELDON POWE-HOBBS 16. DAVIN CRAMPTON 17. JACK SVENDSEN 18. TOM HANCOCK 21. PATRICK KAUFUSI COACH: JASON DEMETRIOU 




#3005677 TotalRL NRL Tipping Competition 2014 GRAND FINAL - Results Posted; Awards Pre...

Posted by thirteenthman on 01 October 2014 - 12:59 PM

Winners - Dogs

 

First Player to Score - Alex Johnston

 

Half Time - Bunnies 8-4 Dogs

 

Full Time - Bunnies 14-16 Dogs

 

Points - 30

 

Tries - 5




#3005462 Does the NRL do enough to Promote International Rugby League

Posted by thirteenthman on 01 October 2014 - 07:31 AM

I've still got him switching twice in a World Cup cycle. Tell me if my logic is wrong.

 

In 2008 he was a Kumal.

 

He then had to switch back to being an Australian to play SOO in 2010 [correct?]

 

But by 2013 he switches back to PNG.

 

Isn't that two switches in a World Cup cycle?

 

Seems very farcical.

 

The World Cup cycle starts the year after the World Cup. In the first year of a World Cup cycle (2009, 2014) the players country of election is basically wiped clean, and they can choose to play for whoever, and it isn't counted as a switch. If they then want to swap nations before the end of that WC cycle, that then is listed as a switch. 

 

In Costigan's case, after he appeared for PNG in the 2008 World Cup, a new cycle started, so he was free to choose whoever. He 'elected' to play for Australia in 2010, so as to play in the Origin series, but then swapped in 2013 to play for PNG in another World Cup. But in the cycle that ran 2009-2013, he only swapped once.

 

As is happening this year, in the first year of a cycle when players can switch without it actually being classed as a switch, players tend to opt for one of the bigger nations (as many of the smaller nations don't play or have 'less important' matches), and then use their one switch to swap back to one of the smaller nations in time for the World Cup. Players could effectively switch nations twice every 4 years for their entire career if they wanted to. 




#3003943 TotalRL NRL Tipping Competition 2014 FINALS WEEK 3 Results Posted; Awards Pre...

Posted by thirteenthman on 28 September 2014 - 02:23 PM

You've done pretty well too 13thman  :good:

 

Cheers G - you've not done too bad yourself  ;)




#3003766 TotalRL NRL Tipping Competition 2014 FINALS WEEK 3 Results Posted; Awards Pre...

Posted by thirteenthman on 27 September 2014 - 10:45 PM

Well done to Barney and Southstander for top scoring this week  :)

 

and also well done to Southstander for finishing top in the tipping ladder for 2014.  :clapping:




#3001748 RIP Greg Mackey

Posted by thirteenthman on 24 September 2014 - 12:54 PM

Terrible news. Greg played in the first game of RL I ever saw at Wilderspool. Great player. Thoughts go out to his family. 

 

RIP Greg.




#3000461 TotalRL NRL Tipping Competition 2014 FINALS WEEK 3 Results Posted; Awards Pre...

Posted by thirteenthman on 22 September 2014 - 12:34 PM

Poll - Panthers v Bulldogs

 

Roosters

Panthers

 

Points - 72