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What is your proper plan? What would these Australian "Superadministrators" do to make England competitive??
Where did I say that in this thread.
Why is England winning this Four Nations series a vain hope?
Surely if England's fans can not get behind their own team with so many world class players sprinkled throughout the team against weakened Australia and Kiwi sides you may as well not bother turning up.
At least 40 thousand + fans are turning up tomorrow to watch them.
1. OK I accept that but you are constantly critcising the European game by simply matching it's lack of achievement against the achievement of your own game "down under".
2. This assumes that somehow Australia have been "well run" and therefore England/France has been "badly run" and you cannot get it into your head that the conditions for running and growing RL in Europe are nowhere near as favourable for running and growing it in Australia.
I set out how massive soccer is here, massive in the heart of a restricted regional RL land, and I set out how entrenched Rugby Union is as well especially the grass roots. It also has far more money than RL That seems to have flown over your head. All you can say is "we have soccer too".
We cannot have a debate if you choose to ignore all this and assume that failure against massive odds is somehow "bad management". No offence, enough others do it on here. If club is winning it's "well managed" if it runs into trouble it's "badly managed" and that is complete simplistic nonsense.
3. Yes it can get worse and without the new SKY contract it would have got worse. Why not send your brilliant Australian RL administrators over and show us how it is done "FFS".
How has France been handled?
Is the game stronger in England than it was 10 years ago, 20 years ago?
The new 2015 SL format looks like a joke to many Sports fans.
How far do you want to dig?
The games naming rights given to a trucking company "in kind" for some decals on Vans.
No sponsor at all for the naming rights.
Halfwits could do better than these benchmarks.
You would think that Rugby League is competing with Badminton and Squash with the level of sponsorship they attract.
England-France once/twice per year. It's international, a way to blood some players, to get experience, to PROGRESS.
We know we are inferior to you in the game but we don't care, you can only get better by playing games anyway and it would be good to see some new players in your team (Makinson, Percival, Thompson, yes he's young but starting young is always a good thing)
Why England fans keep banging on about the International games lack of development whilst France sits just over the creek amazes me.
We have had the most mental concept ever in the "Exiles" that has shown a band of busted ###### journeymen can beat the England Team more often than not fizzle away to a bad idea
Why don't the games brains trust think about building up France.
Its a better option than a few Pillocks in capes and plastic swords calling themselves Exiles IMO (exiles from what, the NRL?) that is hardly a selling point.
RU on the way out in AUS but kept alive by Int.Rugby - watch and learn
Union is not quite dead in Australia yet and while its true the International side of Union and Super 15 series (Waratahs current champions) keeps it in the spotlight, that has plenty to do with competitors that often beat the Wallabies even when they were a solid team a few years ago unlike the shambles they are in recent times.
Plenty of blame for the state of Rugby Leagues International failure lies at GB'S and England's door, the inability to win more than a handful of games or any Test series against Australia in the last 40 odd years is a massive factor in the state of play today. The Kiwis have done their bit.
Perhaps if the English SL Clubs had built some foundations and developed some halves and outside backs rather than going the easy route and importing Aussies and Kiwis over the years the Test teams may have been more competitive?
Australia have played New Zealand this year and just played a Prime Ministers XIII against PNG.
Who did England play this year?
Why is France left to wither on the Vine? surely if there was potential for a fourth "big team" with the money and commercial interest behind them its France.
You would not think so over the last few years though.
This should be England's year, Australia and the Kiwis are rebuilding or depleted, England are nearly at full strength bar James Roby, there will never be a better chance to win a tournament than now.
We shall see (you know its bad when half the Aussies fans are reluctantly willing England to get up and win, including me)
Fair does to you, that's a calm response considering what a massive blow to Parra this is.
I'm stunned, he'd had his best season for years and I was looking forward to him lighting up the competition and leading the Eels to the playoffs next year. I didn't see this coming at all.
Best of luck to him over there.
Mate, I am really sorry to see him go.
He is the Player that Parra needed to build on and he has won more matches on his own for the Club than any other player I can remember (I was at Cumberland oval when Bert Kenny got rookie of the year award)
But what can you do? he has stuck with a badly managed under-performing Club all of his career
He has to do what he believes in.
I will be surprised if it works out the way he is hoping but I wish him well and will welcome him back if it does not go as planned.
I thought England were fairly close to beating the Aussies in 2013. The england side will of improved since then aswell, although we still have the incompetent coach.
If I was picking my England side it against the one in 2013 and comparing which is better.
Sam Tomkins/Sam Tomkins - Tomkins now has a season under his belt at NRL
Josh Charnley/Joe Burgess - hard to pick)
Kallum Watkins/Kallum Watkins - Watkins has a years more experience
Leroy Cudjoe/Michael Shenton - Shenton is better rounded than Cudjoe
Ryan Hall/Ryan Hall - exactly the same
Rangi Chase/Gareth Widdop - Widdop is far superior
Kevin Sinfield/Kevin Brown - Brown has been superb this year, Kev has no running game
Chris Hill/Chris HIll - exactly the same
James Roby/Roby - exactly the same
George Burgess/James Graham - Graham is slightly better
Brett Ferres/Brett Ferres - exactly the same
Ben Westwood/John Bateman - I rate Bateman a lot although is very young, Westwoods experience would be ideal
Sam Burgess/Sean O Loughlin - Sam obviously a huge miss which is the only significant weakness
Tom Burgess/ George Burgess - George clearly better than Tom
Gareth Widdop/Daryl Clark - WIddop is a better player, but having a half back on the bench at international level is pointless
Lee Mossop/Alex Walmsley - I prefer Walmsley but others will disagree
Carl Ablett/Elliot Whitehead - I would have Whitehead, much bigger threat on the edges
Without the glaring omission of Sam Burgess the England side is better than it was when it played the Aussies last year. I appreciate it is on southern hemisphere soil which changes things but then again the Aus team is slightly weaker than last year.
I still think we will lose, but I don't think we will be miles away.