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#3019727 25/10/14 - 4N - Samoa v England (TV: BBC2 6.30am)

Posted by boxhead on Yesterday, 08:14 AM

It was competitive but not great skills, if Samoa had a top rate half they would have won.

Its only the first game and England were rusty, they will need to move up about three gears or Australia will tear them a new one (or two)

#3018901 "Rugby league's international failure is spectacular"

Posted by boxhead on 24 October 2014 - 06:47 AM

That's not a plan that's a vain hope.


What is your proper plan? What would these Australian "Superadministrators" do to make England competitive??

Where did I say that in this thread.


Why is England winning this Four Nations series a vain hope?

Surely if England's  fans can not get behind their own team with so many world class players sprinkled throughout the team against  weakened Australia and  Kiwi sides you may as well not bother turning up.


At least 40 thousand + fans are turning up tomorrow to watch them.

#3018347 Congratulations Sam Burgess

Posted by boxhead on 23 October 2014 - 05:52 AM

Did Burgess play in an International game this year?

Or does it mean he was considered the best player in the World so they call it the "International player of the year"

Sounds like they are going all out to lure him back.


Congratulations Sam Burgess.

#3016270 International game needs long-term strategy: Wood

Posted by boxhead on 19 October 2014 - 10:08 AM

1. OK I accept that but you are constantly critcising the European game by simply matching it's lack of achievement against the achievement of your own game "down under".


2. This assumes that somehow Australia have been "well run" and therefore England/France has been "badly run" and you cannot get it into your head that the conditions for running and growing RL in Europe are nowhere near as favourable for running and growing it in Australia.


I set out how massive soccer is here, massive in the heart of a restricted regional RL land, and I set out how entrenched  Rugby Union is as well especially the grass roots. It also has far more money than RL That seems to have flown over your head.   All you can say is "we have soccer too".


We cannot have a debate if you choose to ignore all this and assume that failure against massive odds is somehow "bad management". No offence, enough others do it on here. If club is winning it's "well managed" if it runs into trouble it's "badly managed" and that is complete simplistic nonsense.


3. Yes it can get worse and without the new SKY contract it would have got worse. Why not send your brilliant Australian RL administrators over and show us how it is done "FFS".


How has France been handled?


Is the game stronger in England than it was 10 years ago, 20 years ago?


The new  2015 SL format looks like a joke to many Sports fans.

How far do you want to dig?

The games naming rights given to a trucking company "in kind" for some decals on Vans.

No sponsor at all for the naming rights.


Halfwits could do better than these benchmarks.

You would think that Rugby League is competing with Badminton and Squash with the level of sponsorship they attract.

#3015922 International game needs long-term strategy: Wood

Posted by boxhead on 18 October 2014 - 12:56 PM

England-France once/twice per year. It's international, a way to blood some players, to get experience, to PROGRESS. 

We know we are inferior to you in the game but we don't care, you can only get better by playing games anyway and it would be good to see some new players in your team (Makinson, Percival, Thompson, yes he's young but starting young is always a good thing)


Why England fans keep banging on about the International games lack of development whilst France sits just over the creek amazes me.

We have had the most mental concept ever in the "Exiles" that has shown a band of busted ###### journeymen can beat the England Team more often than not fizzle away to a bad idea

Why don't the games brains trust think about building up France.

Its a better option than a few Pillocks in capes and plastic swords calling themselves Exiles IMO (exiles from what, the NRL?) that is hardly a selling point.

#3015885 Opinion: Brough is a credit to international Rugby League

Posted by boxhead on 18 October 2014 - 11:15 AM

Puts a lot of Aussie stars to shame which can never be a bad thing.


Danny has has a checkered International career.


Good luck to him, I do not see what he does has any reference to Aussie Stars being shamed.

You should lose that chip off your shoulders, it will give you a sore neck.

#3015782 Wellens planning to carry on playing

Posted by boxhead on 18 October 2014 - 06:15 AM

He will be 35 by the time next season kicks off, as Geordie said its a good time to leave on a high note rather than fizzle out from the first team.

He has had a great career.

#3015778 Opinion: Brough is a credit to international Rugby League

Posted by boxhead on 18 October 2014 - 12:31 AM

Hope some convicts read this,,,

The convict gag is a bit out of date.

#3015756 International game needs long-term strategy: Wood

Posted by boxhead on 17 October 2014 - 10:14 PM

Don't tell us - tell the convicts!

RU on the way out in AUS but kept alive by Int.Rugby - watch and learn

Union is not quite dead in Australia yet and while its true the International side of Union and Super 15 series (Waratahs current champions) keeps it in the spotlight, that has plenty to do with competitors that often beat the Wallabies even when they were a solid team a few years ago unlike the shambles they are in recent times.


Plenty of blame for the state of Rugby Leagues International failure lies at GB'S and England's door, the inability to win more than a handful of games or any Test series against Australia in the last 40 odd years is a massive factor in the state of play today. The Kiwis have done their bit.


Perhaps if the English SL Clubs had built some foundations and developed some halves and outside backs rather than going the easy route and importing Aussies and Kiwis over the years the Test teams may have been more competitive?


Australia have played New Zealand this year and just played a Prime Ministers XIII against PNG.

Who did England play this year?

Why is France left to wither on the Vine? surely if there was potential for a fourth "big team" with the money and commercial interest behind them its France.

You would not think so over the last few years though.


This should be England's year, Australia and the Kiwis are rebuilding or depleted, England are nearly at full strength bar James Roby, there will never be a better chance to win a tournament than now. 


We shall see (you know its bad when half the Aussies  fans are reluctantly willing England to get up and win, including me)

#3014422 Ben Flower banned for 6 months

Posted by boxhead on 15 October 2014 - 01:28 PM

Should have been 6 months from when the Season started.

For anyone that understands the situation (fans of the game) it is a cop out sentence IMO.

Looks good in the media as if its a tough penalty, truth is its pretty soft.

#3014321 Four Nations: Australia squad discussion thread

Posted by boxhead on 15 October 2014 - 11:19 AM

The kiwis played Australia this year with an under twenties player at hooker and a forward playing in the halves.


Not to mention all the other debutantes in that side.


This Australian team by comparison is stacked by form players who are specialists in their positions.


Don't be lulled into thinking they will be any weaker than the players they replace.


For most of these guys they know the Kangaroo rule....players without a history of winning to insure them.....have very short careers if they lose on debut.



That is correct mt smart, there have been many players that have had short Kangaroo careers if they have not performed.

Its the youngsters chance to make their mark.


The Kangaroos need to inject new blood into the team on a regular basis as all teams do.


They need a few new Props challenging the old guard as well although the trend to play Second Rowers and Locks in that role has been successful in recent times.

I think some of the new players for Oz, NZ and to some extent England may give this series a breath of fresh air.

#3014267 Jarryd Hayne quits Parramatta to join NFL

Posted by boxhead on 15 October 2014 - 09:59 AM

Fair does to you, that's a calm response considering what a massive blow to Parra this is.


I'm stunned, he'd had his best season for years and I was looking forward to him lighting up the competition and leading the Eels to the playoffs next year. I didn't see this coming at all.


Best of luck to him over there.



Mate, I am really sorry to see him go.


He is the Player that Parra needed to build on and he has won more matches on his own for the Club than any other player I can remember (I was at Cumberland oval when Bert Kenny got rookie of the year award)


But what can you do? he has stuck with a badly managed under-performing Club all of his career

He has to do what he believes in.

I will be surprised if it works out the way he is hoping but I wish him well and will welcome him back if it does not go as planned.

#3012017 11/10/14 - SLGF: St Helens v Wigan Warriors KO 6pm (TV)

Posted by boxhead on 12 October 2014 - 07:18 AM

The incident is getting more coverage in Australia than a SL Final has ever had in recent memory.

Many suggesting the second punch should draw legal action and a criminal charge for assault.









The suggestion he is punished enough because he has let his team mates down is a joke.

Does a Rapist or Murderer get a lighter sentence because they have let their Mother down considered part of the punishment?

(not sure if showing a head butt in a signature is great for the game either)



Not a great advertisement for the game.

#3009709 Highest TV ratings for NRL game in history

Posted by boxhead on 08 October 2014 - 11:36 AM

Flippin' eck - that's not much bigger than a village.  How do they produce so many talented players from such a small population 

My typos are getting worse mate


#3002884 Four Nations

Posted by boxhead on 26 September 2014 - 09:19 AM

I thought England were fairly close to beating the Aussies in 2013. The england side will of improved since then aswell, although we still have the incompetent coach.


If I was picking my England side it against the one in 2013 and comparing which is better.


Sam Tomkins/Sam Tomkins - Tomkins now has a season under his belt at NRL

Josh Charnley/Joe Burgess - hard to pick)

Kallum Watkins/Kallum Watkins - Watkins has a years more experience

Leroy Cudjoe/Michael Shenton - Shenton is better rounded than Cudjoe

Ryan Hall/Ryan Hall - exactly the same

Rangi Chase/Gareth Widdop - Widdop is far superior

Kevin Sinfield/Kevin Brown - Brown has been superb this year, Kev has no running game

Chris Hill/Chris HIll - exactly the same

James Roby/Roby - exactly the same

George Burgess/James Graham - Graham is slightly better

Brett Ferres/Brett Ferres - exactly the same

Ben Westwood/John Bateman - I rate Bateman a lot although is very young, Westwoods experience would be ideal

Sam Burgess/Sean O Loughlin - Sam obviously a huge miss which is the only significant weakness


Tom Burgess/ George Burgess - George clearly better than Tom

Gareth Widdop/Daryl Clark - WIddop is a better player, but having a half back on the bench at international level is pointless

Lee Mossop/Alex Walmsley - I prefer Walmsley but others will disagree

Carl Ablett/Elliot Whitehead - I would have Whitehead, much bigger threat on the edges


Without the glaring omission of Sam Burgess the England side is better than it was when it played the Aussies last year. I appreciate it is on southern hemisphere soil which changes things but then again the Aus team is slightly weaker than last year.


I still think we will lose, but I don't think we will be miles away.



I hope England can win.

The game needs it more than anything else.