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  • Birthday 07/03/1966

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  1. Hot air from the big fella at Red Hall , in the end it sounds good but tell us nothing . In the words of Charlton Ogburn we tend to meet any new situation by reorganization, and a wonderful method it is for creating the illusion of progress at a mere cost of confusion, inefficiency and demoralization. As its funding has reduced in recent years , the RFL has made drastic staff cuts , so not sure what is left to re-organise . With Sports England rumored to be further cutting its funding will the RFL Board be culled in line with the cuts ? Somehow I dont think so
  2. Opening game of the Tour Played at the Copeland Sporst Stadium on Saturday 6th August . Match report here http://www.mastersrl.co.uk/article/14681/australian-masters-enjoy-cumbria
  3. The Cumbria County Masters Rugby League team amkes its long awaited appearance this weekend whwn they play a Chairmans XIII at Newton Rigg College Penrith . The Cumbria team is as follows Algie Reynolds Full Back Aspatria Hornets, Andy Bateman Full Back Penrith, Peter Thompson Winger/Full Back West Cumbria ,Vic Logan Winger/Back Row Barrow, Graham Gilpin Centre West Cumbria ,Peter Thorndyke Centre Aspatria Hornets , Steve Currie Centre Penrith, Chris Quinn Wing/Centre West Cumbria, Paul Butler Half Back Penrith, Dale Semple (Capt) Half Back Aspatria Hornets, Barry Donald Prop Aspatria Hornets, Andrew Berwick Prop Aspatria Hornets, Alan Riddick Hooker West Cumbria ,Stuart Miller Prop Aspatria Hornets, Mark Creasy Prop West Cumbria, Simon Turner 2nd row West Cumbria ,Lee Hoskins 2nd row West Cumbria, Mike Nicholson 2nd row Aspatria Hornets, Martin Ennis Back row West Cumbria, Phil Radcliffe Back row West Cumbria ,Ian Tongue Back row Barrow . Kevin Brockbank Team Manager West Cumbria John Hodgson First Aid West Cumbria The Chairmans X111 led by Masters Steering Committee Chair John Wroe is 1) Rick Postlethwaite - West Cumbria 2) Martin Mccoll - Leyland Warriors 3) Paul Field - Siddal 4) Dave Reid - Crosfields 5) Liam Nicholls - West Cumbria 6) Alex Price - West Cumbria 7) Gary Nugent - Leeds Masters Shaun Mcpoland - Barrow 9) Gary Parker - Blackpool 10) Paul Royston - Ossett (Coach) 11) Carl Wilson - Leeds Masters 12) Bobby Belshaw - North East 13) Andy Calvert - Blackpool (Captain) 14) John Heritage - Crosfields 15) Dave Shepherd - Blackpool 160 John Wroe ( Mayfield) The Game is being Played at Newton Rigg College Newton Road Penrith Cumbria CA11 0AH Kick off is 2 pm with a curtain raiser between West Cumbria and Masters select at 1 pm . All welcome
  4. Thought this might have been underway by now .Apart from Castleford signing up with XBlades for 2015 , not surprising given their links with Wests Tigers ,I am not aware of any news on this . Anyone out there have any information they could share on this thread ?
  5. This may be a total coincidence or not , but in the same week as the RFL Review and Cumbria , today NMP and Sellafield Ltd , the bIg industrial Concern in the area are providing funding to kick start a £60 Million pound investment in a brand new Education Campus for Whitehaven . http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/nuclear-industry-cash-for-study-into-single-site-campus-for-schools-1.1125912 It was the same NMP who were providing the bulk of the funding for the abortive Pow Beck Stadium project which hit the buffers ahead of the RLWC. If that funding is still available, and I suspect it may well be , then it wouldnt be beyond the realms of fantasy to see that pot of money included in the Education Campus as SL standard Sports Facilities ? Or is my imagination just running out of control .?
  6. The Pandoras box that is RL in West Cumbria has been opened once again in a very public way and for what its worth here are my thoughts on it ! Unquestionably there is an appetite for Rugby League in Cumbria , the RLWC 2013 only confirmed what we alreday know to be true . However scratch the surface and you will find that the RLWC organisers to their credit, ran a very slick marketing campaign backed up by significant discounting on the match tickets. Result 7,500 attendances at both games . And yes there were 1200 at the recent NCL game between Wath brow and Egremont , paying an admission price of £3 . There doesn't seem to be the same appetite to pay £15 to watch Haven or Town in the Championship . Draw you own conclusions form these facts ! So yes we have a problem and once again the dreaded 'M' word is rolled out . Yes a Super League club is long overdue in this part of the world but a merger is propbaly the last part of any such plan ,I believe for the several reasons . The Minimum Standards for entry into SL require require a Stadium that just doesnt exist in the area ,Both Copeland Council and Allerdale Council have jumped on this Particular bandwagon in recent times and failed miserably to deliver for the RL community in West Cumbria . So before we even start thinking about investment in Club Infrastuture ,Point one for the Review to consider is . where can we find the £10/£15 Million investement for this new build? So lets assume the Review can solve the Stadium issues , what level of finance and investment would be needed to give the West Cumbrian SL club a realistic chance of suceeding ? I am pretty sure the combined current revenues of Haven and Town would be signifiacntly below what is minimum turnover of a current SL club . Once again the review will need to look at where the millions pound of additional revenue funding for the West Cumbria SL club might come from . BTW I am not aware of any Marwan Koukash type entrepenuer in Cumbria who might fit the bill here ! Once the Review has concluded and we have hopefully positive answers to these two questions, then and only then should we start talking the Mechanics of making a West Cumbria SL dream a reality be that a New Club or a merger remains to be seen .
  7. The Current England RL Masters team will be in action this Sunday afternoon at Salford and Eccles RLFC . The opposition will be the Bahtats and the game will kick off at 2 pm . Prior to that Medway Dragons Masters , Blackpool Masters and Salfiord & Eccles Masters will take the field at 1 pm . If you are in and around Salford ahead of the Engand v france game then come along andf support the Masters .
  8. Slalom Larger !!!! Dont Knock it . Slalom was one of Cumbrias least well known exports ,Originally brewed at the Old Workington brewery in the mid 1970s and brewed there after it was taken over by Matthew Brown in the next decade, who sponsored Rugby league in a big way round that time . They did a very good brewery tour which usually ended with large quantities of free samples being consumed . Great Days This particular brew was sold in bottles and Draught at most rugby clubs at that time and certainly was responsible for a few merry nights and sorry mornings in my youngers days Great memories With regard to Wigan at that time .I recall them playing at Whitehaven that same season and Haven prop and now director Ralph Calvin getting levelled by Wigans prop Steve Breheny who subsequently got his come uppance from another haven forward . As other have commented that the way the game was in those days but lacked nothing terms of entertainamnet compared to the more sanitised game of today.
  9. Havens Reserves provided a memorable conclusion to what has been a disasterous 2010 season as they won this afternoons Reserve Grand Final 46-12 over Featherstone Rovers . A reward for the clubs Youth developement programme , showing that even allowing for the invetiable loss of young players to Super league Academies there is still a lot of talent in West Cumbria . The clubs reserves topped their league and both the Under 16 and under 15 Scholarship squads competed well against Super League opposition in the RFL competition eralier this season . I AM probably biased here but it shows that the Haven are well placed to bounce back as competitve Championship One Club quickly . It also shows that the suggested remedy of a merger would be much more welcome to Workington club that it would the Haven :
  10. A public meeting has been called for all Whitehaven rugby league supporters on Friday night to further explore the possibility of setting up an independent supporters' trust to make a viable offer to run the club. Since the idea was first mooted by a fans' steering group on Friday over 300 people have used a website to register their interest in being involved in the scheme, and the steering group met on Tuesday. Spokesman Karl Connor said: "What we have seen by the response to the website is that there is a genuine will in the community for the club to continue, and a genuine interest from supporters in getting involved in shaping the club's future. "Can we raise the funds to buy the club? That is the big question - and one we hope to answer after the public meeting on Friday night. "What we will be asking people on Friday is firstly whether or not they want to go ahead with a trust and if they do we will set one up. "If that is the road we go down then we would follow a well established model which is already being used successfully at other sports clubs. Membership of the trust would cost a minimum of
  11. Lots of rumors as yet unconfirmed that Whitehaven have parted company with Coach ged stokes with immediate effect. Reported on BBC Cumbria sports show this evening , though Club Officals remaining tight lipped but at the same time not denying questions asked by their reporter . More to Follow no doubt
  12. Yes , It is Bad Times in Cumbria , but as ever such happenings are rarely the consequence of bad luck , more down to rank bad management. In Towns case , they continue to be held back by the Legacy of their one season in Super League 1, the debts they incurred and the fall out from that continues to cast a long shadow over Derwent Park . As for Whitehaven , well their demise hs bee rapid but at the same time totally avoidable . They over spent after 2005 on overated out -of-town pros with big reputation and even bigger wage demands . All this while the RFL were making it quiet clear the Recre was not good enough for SL . The retirements of Seeds, Lester , Fatialofa etc were entirely predictable and ,a war chest to get the club over a dificult few years should have been put in place , but two differant adminstrations at the club since 2007, couldnt or wouldnt make the hard decisions that might have given the club a club of staying competitive . So Haven now run by an American Chairman who nows next to nowt about RL , with a Board of Local Councillors in support , are at the brink and are having to make the hard decisions that should have been made 12 or 18 month ago . Added to the financial meltdown, the same Board continues to swear blind alliegance to Coach Ged Stokes ,his team having lost 11 straight games . What other club in whatever sport would retain their team boss with such a record ??? Is it any real surprise therefore that the 1800 to 2000 Haven fans of recent years have now voted with their feet , remember it is those people who have spend their hard hard earned cash, to support a disfuntional club with a non performing coach and team . Itdont think so With the right calibre of people running the Club and a coach who can get results many of those stay aways will return of that I am sure . The one optimistic note from a Whitehaven view point is that despite the undouted pull of SL clubs on the Areas junior talent , Havens youth policy continues to be productive with both scholarship 15 and 16 age group teams showing up well in the recent round of fixtures . So coming to the issue of Super League , it nice for all you people down their in M62 land to offer advice , but what will be the result of the coming together of 2 struggling - poorly manged clubs , a slightly larger but still struggling poorly managed club . Dont think thats going to meet any of the RFLs SL licencing criteria. But just moving things on - some think that a Cumbrian SL club is a fait accompli of the RFL !!! In 2007 Tony Colyer the then Vice Chairman of Barrow put together an extensive paper on how he thought Cumbria could put a bid forward for SL , this was shared bewteen the 3 pro clubs and the RFL . It wasnt perfect but certainly was a basis for further discussions . As of July 2010 there has yet to be an acknowledgement of this paper by the RFL , and remains the biggest idictment of the RFLs attitude to Cumbria and SL .