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  1. I was mates with Matty Hankinson in high school, had a fight with him in Year 9! Always a bit of a weird kid but this wasn't what I expected of him...
  2. Pleased for him, played with him at u16s and he was a good bloke back then too
  3. Looking forward to it, especially with having our 2nd Team playing vs Derby beforehand. I think one thing to make clear here is that this open letter wasn't a slight at any club as much as us recognising an unsustainable situation.
  4. Last minute decision to travel up to Hull for this, probably swayed by the fact the game isn't on Sky! Think it'll be a close game as we tend to struggle with the size of Hull's pack.
  5. Saint 1

    Outlaws Open Letter

    I think if there were penalties, fewer teams would postpone or forfeit. Whether that is a points deduction or loss of the club's bond with the league, who knows (our original open letter actually included a bit of a look at improvements, but was cut to limit the length). At the end of the day I've been either side of travelling with short numbers, and I'd rather that happen than kick the can down the road, hoping the problem magically resolves itself in a month or two. If the league was just stricter with postponements (i.e. you must have genuinely extreme circumstances), a lot of the games would probably go ahead with shorter numbers. I think the other thing is that postponements actually punish the team who were willing to play. When the fixtures come out at the start of the year, players make plans for the allocated gap weekends. When a team can decide to postpone the fixture because they can't get their strongest team out, it ends up getting shifted to the gap weekend, and the effect is two-fold. First of all, the team that postponed get to wait to get their players back, but also we lose players who have been organised and made plans around the fixture list!
  6. My understanding of it was always that Cov Dragons and Northampton chose to not be in the Midlands league in order to get tougher games - was that not the case? However, would you really want to be winning every game by 50?
  7. Saint 1

    Outlaws Open Letter

    Part of the problem is that in YML it is too easy to postpone games, even if only 1 of the teams wants to do so. There isn't much incentive for teams to turn up with anything other than their strongest team.
  8. I think we are tending towards that, it'll just be meeting the requirements! I think with Outlaws delivering RL coaching to around 80-100 university students a week, a large part of our player development/recruitment model is a bit non-standard but we will see what happens. Having had a brief think about it, I don't know if it would cost that much more. Assuming that a coach costs £700 (ish) for the longer away games, that would probably be balanced out by going from playing 5 home matches last year to 13 home matches in the NCL. We would also be able to genuinely plan around fixtures again so our income per match would go up too - stuff like selling match sponsorship and selling advertising hoardings is very difficult at the minute. I don't think the NCL would be too big a step - Beverley made the transition this year. They finished 4th in Yorkshire Prem last year and are currently 6 points clear at the top of NCL3. Even if it was too big a step, we would rather struggle if it did mean playing more games!
  9. Saint 1

    Outlaws Open Letter

    Fair point, but I wasn't saying we would repeat what Beverley have done, merely that it is a standard we could probably live with. What does the Pennine League have to do with anything? Hemel (and others) are also signing players from the Midlands league and the 2nd division of student RL.
  10. Yeah that's exactly it. On the 16th of June, we had a big day planned with juniors, 2nd team, 1st team and a social. When the 1st team game got cancelled, the social also becomes smaller and you become less willing to push it next time for fear of getting people's hopes up. Very hard to keep intensity up at training too if you haven't played in a month!
  11. Saint 1

    Outlaws Open Letter

    I don't think we would be miles away from the playing strength of NCL3. If you look at Beverley, they finished 4th in Yorkshire Premier last season and are currently sitting 6 points clear at the top of NCL3. I think we struggled last year but have recruited reasonably well and are currently 4th in the league with most of our remaining games at home. Additionally (and this is exactly what we said when we joined Yorkshire Premier), it's better to struggle and improve than either 1) not be challenged sufficiently or 2) not play enough games.
  12. Nottingham Outlaws have published an open letter looking to draw attention to the challenges of the last few years, and also to share our hopes for the future: The start of the 2018 season saw Nottingham Outlaws finally secure a permanent home for rugby league in the city. This was a significant milestone for the club, and one that the club’s volunteers have been working hard to achieve for several years. Since April when we were first able to host fixtures, our new venue at Lenton Lane has run regular men’s, women’s, juniors and social touch rugby sessions. We have also hosted schools rugby league festivals and student fixtures. Despite this amount of activity, our 1st Team has only played two home games in three months. In recent weeks we are finding ourselves severely tested by this lack of fixtures, and the situation is rapidly becoming unsustainable. After the Conference League South collapsed at the end of the 2016 season, the Yorkshire League kindly accepted us into their competition. Whilst the clubs have been very welcoming and the playing standard has been high, unfortunately some clubs were not strong enough to complete the 2017 season, and we ended up losing out on 4 of our scheduled 9 home league games. With an influx of new clubs re-strengthening the Yorkshire Premier Division for 2018, we were hopeful that this situation would not be repeated. However, for our last 3 consecutive home games, our prospective opponents have either cancelled or postponed the scheduled fixture. This situation has left us without a First Team game in a month, and without a home game for 2 months. The lack of home games and associated income poses a significant risk to our future as we have to meet ongoing costs to cover the rent and upkeep of our facility. They also limit our ability to grow as a club, as we cannot market ourselves effectively while facing the risk of games being cancelled. It also has a detrimental impact on player retention as players become disillusioned with the lack of games. Each fixture cancellation therefore damages the credibility of the sport in our region, and erodes the goodwill and enthusiasm of the players, volunteers, supporters and sponsors involved. Given the lack of stability and reliability with the current Yorkshire League format, we will be exploring all potential playing options for our 1st Team for next season, whether that be a revised Yorkshire League competition, the National Conference League, or any relaunch of CLS. It is Nottingham Outlaws’ aim to become a hub for community rugby league in our region, and we will strive to continue to provide playing opportunities for men, women, juniors and non-contact players, as well as hosting schools and university fixtures. In the future we also hope to provide opportunities for masters and physical disability rugby league. The Outlaws committee decided to write this open letter, as we felt the need to highlight some of the serious problems that we as a club and also that the wider game is currently facing. Since joining RLC National in 2009, Outlaws have been able to provide our players with a full-length playing season at an appropriate standard. In the Midlands and South there is currently no suitable competitive option for us, as no regions operate any competition structure outside of a truncated May-August window. Worringly, three of the Midland’s traditionally strongest clubs in Leicester Storm, Coventry Dragons and Northampton Demons have all folded in the past two years, and we feel steps need to be taken to remedy these issues. Looking ahead to future seasons, creative solutions are required that will involve dialogue and input from both the clubs and the governing body. In terms of the 2018 season, we sincerely hope that the Yorkshire League is able to get back on track after the spate of recent postponements, as the club has a very real opportunity to reach the Premier Division play-offs. As such, we hope that our members and supporters will back our endeavours with renewed enthusiasm, and continue to enjoy their rugby league at Lenton Lane for the remainder of the season and beyond
  13. Saint 1

    Why reducing interchanges will help our game

    Fatigue reduces the size of impact by reducing the speed of movement. If we had a 5 metre rule teams would spend entire sets making 0 metres.
  14. Saint 1

    Why reducing interchanges will help our game

    No it isn't proven. I think most injuries come from impact rather than fatigue nowadays (I'm pretty sure I have research saying that as well) and therefore reducing impact by increasing fatigue may actually reduce injuries.
  15. Saint 1

    Regional leagues 2018

    1st Team match for Outlaws on Saturday was off because Bentley had an u13s Cup Final(!) so played against Sherwood Wolfhunt instead. 30-30 draw, Wolfhunt have come on leaps and bounds over the last few years. Today I coached our women's team in their first ever home game at Lenton Lane. We won 26-6 over Dearne Valley Bulldogs, turned out with 15 players (before today, we haven't had a full starting 13 since 2014), and some really good tries scored. Our women's team has been a real positive this year.