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  1. RL does what Sky says

    History of Oldham Amateur District League

    Surely you don't have to actually see Scott Naylor in person to let him know of a potential player. I am not involved with any particular local club but if ever I saw a player who I thought might be useful to Oldham then I would just phone or contact the club in some other way to let them know. Surely only if they are good enough for a Super League club to want them. OK, Oldham and others teams in a similar position might not be able to get the top-class players but there are still plenty of others who are a little bit further down the line but who might be OK for teams such as Oldham etc.
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    History of Oldham Amateur District League

    Little no it all ... I am certain you have heard of many players in the past having been recommended to a club by their own scouts who are not the club's head coach. For example, how did the Widnes coach at that time Dougie Laughton find out about Martin Offiah ? He wasn't the one who originally saw him play; he was recommend by one of the club scouts. If local clubs don't keep the local pro club informed of any potential players then how will a "shame pro club" (to quote you) become any better ?
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    Hemel Stags.....

    A Manchester team to join the RFL ??? Now where have I hear that before ? Oh, yes, Maurice Lindsay's brainwave of merging teams together (ie Oldham and Salford) Of course neither club wanted it but I'll wager that if it had happened then "Manchester RLFC" would now be in Super League - even though attendances would be low.
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    England v France - 27 Oct 2018 (Women)

    I agree with the above. However, how many people, even ardent RL followers, go and watch their own club's womens' team ? Having actually been to a few womens' games I know that the attendances are extremely low - and yes, possibly a NWC under-12s' game attracts more - and if so why spend lots of money on something that doesn't receive public support ? I know that some people might say that more publicity could bring it more interest but the same could be said for any amateur team yet they are not being given that same publicity. As much as publicity might be given to particular groups, surely the attendances show how much interest the public really have about them. As "gingerjon" said above, "This game was so well promoted ...... a handful of people watch´╗┐ing......". Therefore well promoted and just a handful watching, so where's the real interest in it ? Yes, I understand that in this current climate of political correctness and equality for all that everyone should be treated the same but surely those people should also be providing the same quality of service to justify that equality and providing their employers with an equal percentage of income for the money spent on them in comparison with teams who attract greater audiences. Some might say I am being sexist but no, I am being practical - how many reading this actually regularly go to watch their local womens' team ? The only way the womens' game will flourish is if more people actually attend games.
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    History of Oldham Amateur District League

    Firstly I really don't think it matters if Scott Naylor himself has not watched a local youth game ... but are you certain he hasn't ? Even so, scouting of potential players is not really the actual job of a first-team coach; there are (should be) others within the club's system who are employed for that purpose. However, even if a potential world beater was spotted at Saddleworth, St.Anne's, Waterhead, etc, what really would be the chances of Oldham securing his services ? Practically none due to the greater offer other clubs could tempt him with. Furthermore do amateur clubs actually inform the local professional club about anyone they think might be of interest to them ... and do many Oldham fans do the same ? If we want RL to grow in the town them we should all be in it together.
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    27 Oct: England v New Zealand KO 2.30pm (BBC TV)

    Yes, I actually agree it was a laugh ... but there would be an outcry if English players tried to do the same about some foreign opponents.
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    27 Oct: England v New Zealand KO 2.30pm (BBC TV)

    It just shows what the BBC actually think of RL with their publicity about the series on the BBC Sport website ... a video showing Kiwi players trying to speak with Northern accents and titled as "Ee by gum". Would the BBC do the same when England play Pakistan at cricket and get the English players trying to speak in a Pakistanti accent ? No, because that would be classed as racist. So why has this been allowed by the BBC and are the RFL going to make any complaint or do they agree with it ?
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    Hemel Stags.....

    Hemel Hempstead began in the early 1980s and were one of the first clubs which the RL targeted as a prospective new area in which to develop the game. However, instead of concentrating their efforts on one such club and giving it the chance to steadily grow, the RFL seem to have since taken the view that quantity is better than quality, thus having invited more and more teams from outside the traditional areas of the game. By now Hemel might well have become a decent side but the fact is that there are now too many mediocre "development area" clubs in the league and that even any half-decent players are too thinly spread between them and for whom it isn't worth their while travelling outside of their local area to play for anyone else. If Hemel had been allowed to develop on their own and able to attract players from a good distance around their area then at least we might have had one reasonable side instead of half a dozen or more teams who are no better than many amateur clubs but who the RFL have there purely to say the game is expanding ... it isn't !
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    Happy Manchester Pride?

    All my original comment was mean to do was to suggest other groups that could possibly also be targeted as potential people to become interested in RL and was not meant to decry others previously mentioned in this thread. It appears that some who post on here are always just looking to see the wrong in anything someone says instead of the possible positives. I suggested other groups - what is wrong in that ? Bob8 ... If you read the quote I added to my own which you have reposted above, you would see that other groups of people were mentioned in that and that I was not specifically addressing Kiyan. You said that certain groups of people are not made welcome yet I was making a point of trying to welcome others in.
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    Happy Manchester Pride?

    That also leads on to another question - why it is only certain groups that are generally referred to when complaining about a lack of representation in some sections of society yet there are other such groups equally not represented ? Most publicity is often given to a lack of Asians, homosexuals and women yet does RL have many Polish, Jewish or blind/deaf people involved, either as players or supporters ? I don't know the answer but I suspect the percentage would be roughly equal to the first three categories I mentioned and so why not target those communities in a similar fashion ?
  11. RL does what Sky says

    Happy Manchester Pride?

    Shadow ... your comment of "it's about equality which works both ways" is exactly what I am saying. I am all for the homosexual community to be targeted but in the same way - and no more than - any other group of people.
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    Happy Manchester Pride?

    Dave T ... OK, you don't follow the point. I never said there was anything that a club has done that I am not happy with. I was only commenting on someone's suggestion of specifically targeting certain groups of people. If someone had originally suggested for the RFL to make more of an effort to specifically target hetrosexual people then I think there would have been some complaints of sexism and them not being fully inclusive. Yes clubs going working with all the groups you mention would be welcomed but the alternative groups should be similarly targeted..
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    Happy Manchester Pride?

    Dave T .. Obviously my point is not being made clear. I am NOT trying to suppress any kind of activity. I have previously stated that I don't mind having such events; I am only asking that it isn't limited to particular groups of people. Kids' summer dances is as it says "KIDS summer dances" - I would challenge it if it was only for a certain group of kids. Just like promoting RL - it should be promoted equally to everyone and not just to one group because they have a specific way of life.
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    Happy Manchester Pride?

    Dave T ... obviously the tone of a comment cannot always be understood when it is written rather than when heard it spoken and you have certainly got the wrong end of the stick regarding my comment by the way you are replying. I am not "raging" nor does the situation offend me ... I am just making a point about having equality for everybody. Also, I was not referring to yourself specifically when I mentioned previous posts.; I was just commenting on the thread in general.
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    Happy Manchester Pride?

    There were comments in previous posts asking about the possibility of the RFL targeting the homosexual community in order to get them involved with sport. I have no problem with that but surely they should not be given special treatment and any different to the way that hetrosexual people are targeted. Both should be treated equally.