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I'd love to see people defend this shambles of a club (yet again).....

On other thoughts, maybe the 'traditionalists' were right all along ;)

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I'd love to see people defend this shambles of a club (yet again).....

On other thoughts, maybe the 'traditionalists' were right all along ;)

If FEV said they might play in Scarborough for example what would our fan base think about that for instance. This is no way to build up your support the Crusaders are bringing the game into disrepute. What is their actual identity? Where is this town in Wales called Crusaders? Our game is run by shambolic idiots and its time they resigned.

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I'd love to see people defend this shambles of a club (yet again).....

On other thoughts, maybe the 'traditionalists' were right all along ;)

The game is now run far better, at all levels, than at any time in its history Paul. Didn't you know?

What is a traditionalist?

What were they right about?

What makes you think it's a shambles?

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i've nothing new to bring to this. My feelings haven't changed. I don't believe the way the crusaders have been "introduced" to sl was correct. And i still believe in auto promotion & relegation and giving every club an equal opportunity should they wish to take it!

I do not see anything in the crusaders off or on field performances to change any of my views.

The song remains the same!

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The game is now run far better, at all levels, than at any time in its history Paul. Didn't you know?

What is a traditionalist?

What were they right about?

What makes you think it's a shambles?

Where have I said that Terry? I don't know what you're on about.

The point of the thread isn't about Celtic, its about the the Vichy Government and previous regimes messing things up.

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For the Crusaders as they are now called to play at Wrexham is a joke as it is so close to Cheshire.

The only possible reason that I could tolerate them was the remote possibililty that the game might take off in South Wales.

I have a work colleague who is a union fan, lives in Bridgend and did take in a couple of Celtic matches last year but is now totally disgusted with the club and the way that they have left his town.

Perhaps we should move to Scarborough for the first year of a three year licence and then move back for the second two years.

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The game is a shambles.

What a joke!!!!!!

I have just been to dinner with a true Fev great and anything this day and age doesn't come close.

What a shambles the RFL today is!!!!!!

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i've nothing new to bring to this. My feelings haven't changed. I don't believe the way the crusaders have been "introduced" to sl was correct. And i still believe in auto promotion & relegation and giving every club an equal opportunity should they wish to take it!

I do not see anything in the crusaders off or on field performances to change any of my views.

The song remains the same!

was it intentional to quote a live album by led zeppelin ??

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sort of! B)

Edited by Robin Evans

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It certainly doesnt help the game. It'll be seen as another RL shambles where the toe has just been dipped and millions of pounds wasted again and for nothing? is RL anymore popular in Wales now than it was before the Crusaders emerged? It certainly doesn't look like it is as no one even wants to give the game a home down there.

It's time we stopped throwing money at pin in a map ventures like this and focus on the heartlands where people want to watch and play the game. The sooner someone up there realises their big plan isn't working the better, we need to consolidate what we have before we lose the lot.

Edited by Mick H

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Just let them get on with it, I need a good laugh from time to time.

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It's time we stopped throwing money at pin in a map ventures like this and focus on the heartlands where people want to watch and play the game. The sooner someone up there realises their big plan isn't working the better, we need to consolidate what we have before we lose the lot.

Could happen sooner rather than later Mick. According to League Express the SL clubs might be about to push for a retreat to the heartlands with just 12 clubs participating in their self proclaimed elite competition. Harlequins, having lost

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I have made noises many times about the unfair advantages given to expansion teams , one thing to note is even though I have strong feelings about this, had the RFL decided that two clubs would be promoted to Super League 2009 and no Super league team relegated, then Celtic would have qualified. The thing that is galling, however, is the fact that they did so by playing players on a tourist or visitors visas. If for instance a club spends more money than it should have, even by accident, they would be punished, possibly by a points deduction. The process of deciding the fate of Crusaders is now down to the long winded outcome from the U.K Border agency and until that is concluded, it is difficult for the RFL to act. They must, however, act when the decision is known and be decisive in their actions. We are already hearing mutterings about yet another Paris team being brought into Super League another French team in the Championship. All this is taking money out of the game in G.B. and sending it back to the Antipodes as there is a distinct lack of up and coming talent to sustain the French leagues. Yes many fans who visited France enjoyed the experience, but how much did it cost the RFL ? each team is allowed, I believe a squad of 25 players ,coaches ,medical staff I expect that there would not be much change out of

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Here's another.

Harlequins urged to increase crowds.They have been knocking about in London in one guise or another since Fulham (in 1980?)

The capitol city and their average attendance is so low. I wonder what proportion of fans have been supporting the away teams.

Makes our attendances in comparison pretty good. Just imagine what they would be like if we were in SL. They would at the very least compare and no doubt be higher.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_leag...don/8388266.stm

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Here's another.

Harlequins urged to increase crowds.They have been knocking about in London in one guise or another since Fulham (in 1980?)

The capitol city and their average attendance is so low. I wonder what proportion of fans have been supporting the away teams.

Makes our attendances in comparison pretty good. Just imagine what they would be like if we were in SL. They would at the very least compare and no doubt be higher.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_leag...don/8388266.stm

IT seems to me as there is some panic stations going on behind the scenes at RL headquarters. Harlequins are now in the spotlight and other super league clubs wishing to revert back to the heartlands. Who has suddenly hit them with the hammer of common sense? Now lets see .....Crusaders v Leeds attendance 3015 OR Widnes v Leeds attendance 8998 of course these are imaginary games and attendances but has the penny finally dropped? Lets hope so for the love of our game.

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Hate to gloat, but the majority of fans, who incidentally know nothing about the game, predicted such an outcome at the beginning of this shambles.

There is no way you can establish RL in the union heartland.

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A few years back my local amateur team- Ackworth had more in attendance than a London Broncos home game in the Super League. It was laughable, how can that be justified that a club with amateur status and very little investment can attract more interest than a game played in the top division of our game with a multi thousand pound per game wage bill? and its not like they were new to the game either, they had been around for 15 years at least at that point.

It's time to consolidate and get it back up north, it's not working diwn there as not enough people are bothered, the majority see it as below them anyhow because it's a working mans game, played up north where they all talk funny.

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The way Celtic Crusaders have acted stinks but with the full support of the RFL they were always going to have their way. A team based in North Wales would have been better from the start if taking geography into consideration, although let's face it - logic isn't a RFL strongpoint...

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Hopefully the NL clubs' will tell them where to go.

I hope so too but some grubby underhand deal will no doubt be done. If they agree then I want them to make sure that the new club play with exactly the same limitations on foreign players/ budgets etc as every other club.

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I hope so too but some grubby underhand deal will no doubt be done. If they agree then I want them to make sure that the new club play with exactly the same limitations on foreign players/ budgets etc as every other club.

Phil, I really don't care how many new clubs come to our game. As long as we all play by the same rules and have equal chance to progress.

I can but dream eh??

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