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my apologies but I don't understand a word of that

Lost in translation, huh. ;)

I just supplied some first hand accredited information to clarify a situation.

In short, I guess I was saying thank you for the additional info supplied but it only clarifies half of the situation for me and the fact that it doesn't address the whole situation is what leads to cynicism and distrust. I hope I also made clear that I understand you can only pass on as much as you have been told.

I'll know wbetter in future.

If that's aimed specifically at my post, apologies, it obviously didn't come across as intended.

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Why not just boycott the Toulouse game, at the same time, publicising our reasons and objections?. Sod em.

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rather selfishly i enjoy ouyr jonts to france

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Maybe dope testing ought to be extended to include RLHQ officials.

dope testing dope's........that could be interesting!!

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Amazing what you miss working on nights.........I've just caught up on a whole day of Toulousian Turmoil in 20 minutes from reading through these posts...... :D

Can't wait to see what the RFL's stance is in 12 months though......wonder how much it will have changed by then....

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check your posting the rfl via John Ledger have said that the story is erroneous.

to be honest I don't really care.

I took the time and trouble to contact the appropriate person aboutb this story and gave accredited replies to it on here to be helpful(don't metion it): to give people the facts.

the response has been perfectly in line with the zeitgeist of this 'forum'.

why bother eh

Well i've checked my posting and i still can't see where i've called anyone a liar. I repeat all i did was question the answer given to you that it was an "error in translation" between an English spokesman for the RFL and an English reporter for the League Express. This topic was started as a result of an article on the inside front page of the League Express where the ONLY names mentioned are Mike Rylance, the reporter and Carlos Zalduendo, the Toulouse chairman. I certainly don't think they are liars.

Next time i suggest you don't take the time and trouble as you immediately go off on one when anyone has the temerity to question your post. You accuse people of things they have not done. Then you throw the teddy out the pram with your "zeitgeist of this "forum" and "why bother eh" remarks.

Unlike you, i choose to question answers that seem baffling. An error in translation between two Englishmen is baffling to me.

Edited by DMS

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So why does Martyn Sadler maintain that the origin of the story came from the RFL ? That being the case, how could there be an error in translation - I mean I know some of you Yorkies can be incomprehensible at times but surely there isn't that big a language barrier between Brighouse and Leeds ?

:D

just passing on the information I was given mate

why not contact martyn by pm or on the TRL forum?

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Lost in translation, huh. ;)

In short, I guess I was saying thank you for the additional info supplied but it only clarifies half of the situation for me and the fact that it doesn't address the whole situation is what leads to cynicism and distrust. I hope I also made clear that I understand you can only pass on as much as you have been told.

If that's aimed specifically at my post, apologies, it obviously didn't come across as intended.

fair call

no it wasn't aimed specifically at you

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An "error in translation" my ar$e. The remark was from a RL official to a reporter from League Express. And why did the Toulouse Chairman say they had known they were exempt from getting to a grand final from the start.

DMS Ledger as I said told me that there had been an error in translation.

'an error in translation my ######' looks like it's saying he's lying to me.

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Been on the blower to William Hill. Bookies have slashed the odds of this thread being locked to 1/6 ON.

I don't know how you do it Mr l'angelo mysterioso :lol: :lol:

William Hill have also slashed the odds on Toulouse getting to the Grand Final this year. B)

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DMS Ledger as I said told me that there had been an error in translation.

'an error in translation my ######' looks like it's saying he's lying to me.

LOST IN TRANSLATION.

RFL bloke. "Aye mate they don't have to get to a Grand final, never did have to . Thought everyone knew that. There's a few things we want em to do but grand finals, nah mate".

League Express bloke. "Cheers for that i'll get back to the office, i'll be in time for this weeks edition, catch ya later".

J Ledger. Don't know where this came from Chris, what our guy said was " Off course they have to get to a grand final, it's one of our main qualification points, the reporter must have heard it wrong. Could have been LOST IN TRANSLATION mate"

Is this between RFL double speak and English then Chris.

And before you go off on one, yes it's tongue in cheek.

By the way, the Toulouse chairman was quoted as saying that they had known all along that they didn't have to get to a final to get into SL. What he actually said was " this year i'm going to Bermuda for my hols and i've just bought a nice pair of shorts for the beach".

"LOST IN TRANSLATION MY AR$E"

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LOST IN TRANSLATION.

RFL bloke. "Aye mate they don't have to get to a Grand final, never did have to . Thought everyone knew that. There's a few things we want em to do but grand finals, nah mate".

League Express bloke. "Cheers for that i'll get back to the office, i'll be in time for this weeks edition, catch ya later".

J Ledger. Don't know where this came from Chris, what our guy said was " Off course they have to get to a grand final, it's one of our main qualification points, the reporter must have heard it wrong. Could have been LOST IN TRANSLATION mate"

Is this between RFL double speak and English then Chris.

And before you go off on one, yes it's tongue in cheek.

By the way, the Toulouse chairman was quoted as saying that they had known all along that they didn't have to get to a final to get into SL. What he actually said was " this year i'm going to Bermuda for my hols and i've just bought a nice pair of shorts for the beach".

"LOST IN TRANSLATION MY AR$E"

er no

anyway glad to have been of help.

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er no

anyway glad to have been of help.

Chris, if i'm ever upto my neck in quicksand you can rest assured i won't be calling for your help. You'd probably think my call for help was actually me saying "I'm ok mate, i like to spend me hols upto me neck in quicksand, just get me a cornetto".

Chances are i'd end up in head first with you using my toes to count to more than twenty!!!!! :D

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Chris, if i'm ever upto my neck in quicksand you can rest assured i won't be calling for your help. You'd probably think my call for help was actually me saying "I'm ok mate, i like to spend me hols upto me neck in quicksand, just get me a cornetto".

Chances are i'd end up in head first with you using my toes to count to more than twenty!!!!! :D

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Chris, if i'm ever upto my neck in quicksand you can rest assured i won't be calling for your help. You'd probably think my call for help was actually me saying "I'm ok mate, i like to spend me hols upto me neck in quicksand, just get me a cornetto".

Chances are i'd end up in head first with you using my toes to count to more than twenty!!!!! :D

what flavour do you like? :D

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Here's what really happened according to Martyn Sadler...

Just to clarify how this story unfolded, and why we decided to print it.

Mike Rylance, who specialises in French Rugby League for us, read an online report in the Midi-Olympique newspaper that had quotes from Gilles Dumas, the Toulouse coach, that appeared to suggest that his club didn't have to reach the Grand Final to qualify to make an application to Super League.

He telephoned the Toulouse Chairman, Carlos Zalduendo, who confirmed that he understood that Toulouse didn't have to reach the Grand Final to qualify to make an application for Super League.

Mike then telephoned the RFL Media Manager John Ledger, who promised to get back to him to confirm or otherwise the veracity of this particular interpretation.

John then got back in touch with Mike, and confirmed that Carlos' view was the correct interpretation. That was after John spoke to a senior official at the RFL who confirmed that version of the truth.

John and Mike have both confirmed this version of events with me, but John is not prepared to name the RFL official who confirmed that Toulouse would not have to reach the Grand Final.

Subsequently, on Monday, John issued a press release on behalf of the RFL saying quite bluntly that Toulouse do have to reach the Grand Final "contrary to some reports".

The press release did not make it clear that those "reports" had actually originated from the RFL itself, and it made it look as though League Express had simply printed a story that wasn't true.

Clearly I was less than happy with the RFL not acknowledging that it had given our reporter the wrong information, although John subsequently apologised to me, as I said earlier in this thread.

The integrity of those running the sport has to be in serious doubt I would suggest. Like you said Dave... "LOST IN TRANSLATION MY AR$E"

Edited by Terry Mullaney

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Terry. I've held in contempt those runninbg our sport for a long while now! Another incident of this nature, sadly, does not come as a surprise.

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Here's what really happened according to Martyn Sadler...

Just to clarify how this story unfolded, and why we decided to print it.

Mike Rylance, who specialises in French Rugby League for us, read an online report in the Midi-Olympique newspaper that had quotes from Gilles Dumas, the Toulouse coach, that appeared to suggest that his club didn't have to reach the Grand Final to qualify to make an application to Super League.

He telephoned the Toulouse Chairman, Carlos Zalduendo, who confirmed that he understood that Toulouse didn't have to reach the Grand Final to qualify to make an application for Super League.

Mike then telephoned the RFL Media Manager John Ledger, who promised to get back to him to confirm or otherwise the veracity of this particular interpretation.

John then got back in touch with Mike, and confirmed that Carlos' view was the correct interpretation. That was after John spoke to a senior official at the RFL who confirmed that version of the truth.

John and Mike have both confirmed this version of events with me, but John is not prepared to name the RFL official who confirmed that Toulouse would not have to reach the Grand Final.

Subsequently, on Monday, John issued a press release on behalf of the RFL saying quite bluntly that Toulouse do have to reach the Grand Final "contrary to some reports".

The press release did not make it clear that those "reports" had actually originated from the RFL itself, and it made it look as though League Express had simply printed a story that wasn't true.

Clearly I was less than happy with the RFL not acknowledging that it had given our reporter the wrong information, although John subsequently apologised to me, as I said earlier in this thread.

The integrity of those running the sport has to be in serious doubt I would suggest. Like you said Dave... "LOST IN TRANSLATION MY AR$E"

so Toulouse can get into SL without a GF then? No they can't.

somebody messed up through poor communication. people mess up

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so Toulouse can get into SL without a GF then? No they can't.

somebody messed up through poor communication. people mess up

ALERT! ALERT! ALERT!

"LOST IN TRANSLATION" has now been downgraded to merely "POOR COMMUNICATION"

The forum status has now gone from LEVEL 1 (red alert) to LEVEL 3 (amber alert). But stay alert people.

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ALERT! ALERT! ALERT!

"LOST IN TRANSLATION" has now been downgraded to merely "POOR COMMUNICATION"

The forum status has now gone from LEVEL 1 (red alert) to LEVEL 3 (amber alert). But stay alert people.

settle down-poor translation = poor communication.

anyway it's provided the 'forum' with a four page feeding frenzy so what's the sweat?

:happy:

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settle down-poor translation = poor communication.

anyway it's provided the 'forum' with a four page feeding frenzy so what's the sweat?

:happy:

You really don't get - humour, irony, jokes or just plain sarcasm do you? It must be a cheerless world you live in Chris. Get ya face muscles to do one of these :D

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You really don't get - humour, irony, jokes or just plain sarcasm do you? It must be a cheerless world you live in Chris. Get ya face muscles to do one of these :D

you should try reading trigeminal neuralgia :D

edit: and my bell's palsy is giving me gyp as well!

Edited by l'angelo mysterioso

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you should try reading trigeminal neuralgia :D

edit: and my bell's palsy is giving me gyp as well!

If you suffer from trigeminal neuralgia then you have my sympathy, it's an horrible ailment as is Bells palsy. Both are nerve problems if i'm not mistaken.

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If you suffer from trigeminal neuralgia then you have my sympathy, it's an horrible ailment as is Bells palsy. Both are nerve problems if i'm not mistaken.

you really don't get humour, jokes, sarcasm do you? :D

and nerves meaning that you can't smile.

seriously, you are right they are very painful. I wouldn't wish either on anybody.

edit: let's call it a draw eh?

Edited by l'angelo mysterioso

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you really don't get humour, jokes, sarcasm do you? :D

and nerves meaning that you can't smile.

seriously, you are right they are very painful. I wouldn't wish either on anybody.

edit: let's call it a draw eh?

Only if i can be the away team. Still get winning pay then.

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