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Tony Hately.

 

Not the most skilful player, but a real trojan.

I always liked him.

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Stuart Hall, Sociologist aged 82.

At one point the only black man you saw on TV who wasn't running, jumping, singing or dancing.

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Shirley Temple, child actress turned international diplomat.

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Stuart Hall, Sociologist aged 82.

At one point the only black man you saw on TV who wasn't running, jumping, singing or dancing.

That seems a rather condescending view towards sportsmen and entertainers.

 

I assume you mean in the 1960s when, to be fair, there weren't many black people in Britain, and certainly not many running and jumping (or playing football), although perhaps there were more who were singing or dancing.

 

Having said that, Stuart Hall wrote some interesting things about British culture and became a very prominent academic. And he did seem to get on TV quite a lot.

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That seems a rather condescending view towards sportsmen and entertainers.

Which probably says more about you and how you've interpreted what I said, than what I actually said.

I'd love you to expand on why you think it's condescending though.

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Stuart Hall, Sociologist aged 82.

At one point the only black man you saw on TV who wasn't running, jumping, singing or dancing.

Apart from the continuity announcers or newsreaders, almost everyone on tv was doing those things, so why would black people be any different?

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Goodnight Ralph Waite yesterday aged 85

 

John Walton - wife to Olivia, daddy to John-boy, Mary Ellen, Ben, Jim-Bob, Erin & Elizabeth

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Apart from the continuity announcers or newsreaders, almost everyone on tv was doing those things, so why would black people be any different?

 

I don't think it's worth getting so worked up about.  I think it's very clear that what Weary is saying is that at the time there were no black professors, no black sociologist, no black thinkers (etc) on TV.  Not that every whitey was.  But that when an expert was required the 'expert' would invariably be white.  (Also until recently, invariably male).

 

Now, let's all untwist our knickers ...

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Goodnight Ralph Waite yesterday aged 85

 

John Walton - wife to Olivia, daddy to John-boy, Mary Ellen, Ben, Jim-Bob, Erin & Elizabeth

 

 

I never watched the Waltons, but saw several made-for-tv films where he was a very good actor. He seems to have had a strong moral compass and had parallel careers that went way beyond acting. Still, he made it to 85, which isn't a bad knock.

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Football legend and gentleman Sir Tom Finney aged 91. 

There are plenty of quotes in the obits from Bill Shankley who played with Finney and was a great admirer, my favourite was when he was asked "is Tony Currie  as good as Finney" he is reported to have said "yes but then Tom is sixty now"

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There are plenty of quotes in the obits from Bill Shankley who played with Finney and was a great admirer, my favourite was when he was asked "is Tony Currie  as good as Finney" he is reported to have said "yes but then Tom is sixty now"

 

Billy Wright once said: "There is no better player to have worn an England shirt."

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According to the World Service, guitarist Paco de Lucia. :( 

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As a matter of interest, did you know making films in Chicago was banned for many years, when the ban was lifted the first film to be released that was made in Chicago was "The Blues Brothers".

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Sean Potts, best known as the tin whistle player with The Chieftains.

A good musician and a good bloke.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/10673659/Sean-Potts-obituary.html

Superb band, and always up for something new, instead of having the museum mentality of some folkies. I remember a documentary about Frank Zappa, where he'd got the Chieftains, Johnny 'Guitar' Watson and some Mongolian throat-singers together, just to see if they could come up with something. Some amazing sounds were produced.

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Marcia Wallace who voiced Edna Krabapple (Bart's teacher) in The Simpsons

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Marcia Wallace who voiced Edna Krabapple (Bart's teacher) in The Simpsons

She died in October.

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