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The expansion to Perth and Central Queensland and any other place seems limited by the current organisation and set up of the NRL. It wouldn't take too many more teams before either two divisions were set up or regional comps and national play offs. Other than that surely it means the shifting or dare I say it mergers (!!!!! no maybe not) of one or more current teams.

Surely the current set up can't just keep having clubs added to it, can it?

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There is so many areas in Australia and elsewhere in that part of the world that want a NRL clubs i think they will have to go to 2 Conference's a bit like sport in the USA. Apart from the Perth bid and the central Queensland bid and don't forget the Central Coast bid as well. we still have another bid from Perth another Queensland bid. Also NZ would like another NRL club and PNG would like a NRL club. Dont take Tasmania out the bid for a future NRL club as they are really peeved the way that have been treated by the AFL.

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just started getting into nrl . but with a quick search of the net,found this list of possible new nrl franchises.

Bid Area Home City Home Ground(s) Bid Club Website Official Launch Brisbane Brisbane, Queensland Lang Park (52,500) Brisbane Bombers brisbanebombers.com.au 2011, January Central Coast Gosford, New South Wales

North Sydney, New South Wales Central Coast Stadium (20,119)

North Sydney Oval (20,000) Central Coast Bears centralcoastbears.com.au 2005 Central Queensland Rockhampton, Queensland Browne Park (5,200)

Upgrade to (25,000) Central Queensland Comets cqnrlbid.com.au 2009, April Christchurch Christchurch, New Zealand AMI Stadium (38,628) Southern Orcas - Fiji Suva, Fiji National Stadium (30,000) Fiji Bati - Ipswich Ipswich, Queensland Lang Park (52,500) Ipswich Jets ipswichjets.com.au 2010, August Logan Logan, Queensland Meakin Park (10,000) Logan Scorpions logannrlbid.com 2009, October Papua New Guinea Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea Lloyd Robson Oval (10,000)

Upgrade to (25,000) Papua New Guinea Vipers pngnrlbid.com 2008, October South Australia Adelaide, South Australia Hindmarsh Stadium (16,500) Adelaide Rams - Sunshine Coast Sunshine Coast, Queensland. Stockland Park (12,000) Sunshine Coast Falcons - Toowoomba Toowoomba, Queensland Clive Berghofer Stadium (9,000) Toowoomba Clydesdales - Wellington Wellington, New Zealand Westpac Stadium (36,000) Southern Orcas - Western Australia Perth, Western Australia Perth Oval (20,500)

Upgrade to (25,500) West Coast Pirates formerly WA Reds 2012

just wondered if they were all serious bids and who you aussie/kiwi folks thought would offer the chance of success.

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No need for conferences anytime in the next few decades.

We have four spots up for grabs. Brisbane 2, Perth, Adelaide will get the first three. Then let Sunshine Coast, Central Coast and NZ 2 fight it out for the 20th spot.

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A lot of teams to pick from there....To me expansion has to happen the larger and sooner the better

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So - after a perth based team being 'put on hold'  ? by the ARLC we now get Freddy Fittler coming out with drivel about

Moving Storm to Perth :alcoholic:

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So - after a perth based team being 'put on hold'  ? by the ARLC we now get Freddy Fittler coming out with drivel about

Moving Storm to Perth :alcoholic:

 

:fool:

 

So a succesful team with a 16,000 average in one of the biggest markets in Oz should be moved to Perth, while there are 9 teams in Sydney, some struggling to get crowds over 10,000? :rofl: 

 

Mind boggling. Truly mind boggling.

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Surely he was having a laugh. Either that or he'd had a couple of bottles of Old Rosie!

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Ha! Yeah the Perth & Penrith Panthers would make more sense.

 

But just getting into NRL I've been researching the clubs' recent gates and I do feel that none of the 16 should be under any urgent threat. It seems to me that whilst a couple of the Sydney sides (Penrith & Cronulla, most notably) are only just the right side of 10K average gates, they have history of better in the recent past so seem solid enough.

 

Expansion in 2s would make sense so Perth & a 2nd Brisbane side should be gimmes ASAP and then further down the line I'd like a PNG team - not entirely sure who should accompany them but perhaps a 2nd NZ side.

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Why bother with Perth and Adelaide? Neither survived when they came in in 1995 along with the Queensland Crushers,only the Warriors still surviving,so to me they`ve had their chance. Central NSW or Central Queensland should be the only considerations as both are strong League centres and will hold the interest of the locals should they struggle in the first few years. We don`t need teams to just make up the numbers,there has to be a strong League history and interest or it`s a waste of time,Melbourne excepted as they had megabucks News Limited propping them up.

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? They didn't survive because they were the 'collateral damage' the ARL demanded for the merge to end the super league war :rtfm:

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Am I right in thinking that the NRL have money on the table for any Sydney team willing to relocate to expansion areas like Perth, central coast, Queensland etc?

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For me my preference of expansion would be:

1. Perth

2. NZ side, Wellington or Christchurch

3. South Queensland side, Logan or Ipswich

4. Adelaide

I'd also love to see a south African side in the NRL and maybe manly could relocate to the central coast freeing up another expansion place?

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For me my preference of expansion would be:

1. Perth

2. NZ side, Wellington or Christchurch

3. South Queensland side, Logan or Ipswich

4. Adelaide

I'd also love to see a south African side in the NRL and maybe manly could relocate to the central coast freeing up another expansion place?

surely a PNG or a Fiji side would have to come before a south African team? 

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surely a PNG or a Fiji side would have to come before a south African team?

Would a png or Fijian side be economically viable, these are really third world countries with small economies, it's all about money and new tv markets. Also port moresby has a huge crime rate and who'd want to live their or relocate their young family if you were an Aussie, kiwi or Brit because they'd need a strong overseas contingent to be competitive at least.

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Bit of dreaming going on here,they don`t even play League in South Africa,nor the Islands to anything worth thinking about. Rugby Union would shift heaven and earth to stop that from happening,so only PNG is a place where they play the game,but they`d have to play in the Queensland Cup first before the NRL would consider them. New Zealand maybe,but I think the NRL are happy enough with one team from there,so to me the logical and proper places would be either Central NSW or Central Queensland. You`ve got no chance of shifting Manly either,so don`t even go there!

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Manly merge or 'relocate' ROFLMAO

Ask the North Sydney Bears about it :hunter:

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 maybe manly could relocate to the central coast freeing up another expansion place?

 

North Sydney were going to do that in 1999, but a combination of many things including a large slice of bad luck resulted in them having to enter the ill fated 'merger' with Manly. That ground in Gosford was supposed to have been North Sydney's home.

 

I suspect that even if a team was on it's knees financially now, they'd have to be dragged kicking and screaming out of Sydney.

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North Sydney were going to do that in 1999, but a combination of many things including a large slice of bad luck resulted in them having to enter the ill fated 'merger' with Manly. That ground in Gosford was supposed to have been North Sydney's home.

 

I suspect that even if a team was on it's knees financially now, they'd have to be dragged kicking and screaming out of Sydney.

Quite liked the bears and was sad to see them go. I always thought Gary Larson was very underrated.

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Why bother with Perth and Adelaide? Neither survived when they came in in 1995 along with the Queensland Crushers,only the Warriors still surviving,so to me they`ve had their chance. Central NSW or Central Queensland should be the only considerations as both are strong League centres and will hold the interest of the locals should they struggle in the first few years. We don`t need teams to just make up the numbers,there has to be a strong League history and interest or it`s a waste of time,Melbourne excepted as they had megabucks News Limited propping them up.

 

"There has to be a strong league history" for an expansion side?

 

Errr....

 

The whole point of expansion is to take the game to new uncharted areas.

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"There has to be a strong league history" for an expansion side?

 

Errr....

 

The whole point of expansion is to take the game to new uncharted areas.

 

I'd agree that the NRL should be looking at somewhere like Perth to give the game a more national spread, but DiddyDave is right in that all the teams, except Melbourne, brought in under expansion (and who are still going) were from traditional RL areas.

 

Teams like Brisbane, Canberra and the Gold Coast were brought in as expansion teams simply to expand what was effectively the Sydney competition, not as a means of expanding the games reach to unchartered waters. Perth was the first club from a non-RL area to enter in 1995, but the SL war put paid to that. There was a time where the game in Sydney probably saw a team in Penrith as expansion.

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If any of these clubs were to come in namely Perth (West Coast Pirates) or a revived Adelaide Rams just watch Super League's best players get poached as those 2 with a low RL profile will want big names with A high RL profile from England, New Zealand and Australia players from the latter 2 currently Super League based

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Is Adelaide viable? I don't have the figures to hand but I was looking through old NRL attendances recently and theirs were quite poor, weren't they?

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