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NCL 3 next season

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Looks like we're in the NCL then, subject to the clubs' vote. At least for one season.

If the NCL Committee are going to allow you to join for just the one season then it's got to be an indication on who is really running the competition.

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If the NCL Committee are going to allow you to join for just the one season then it's got to be an indication on who is really running the competition.

Nonsense. It shows the NCL aren't prepared to cut off their nose to spite the RFL

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There's no guarantee Coventry will follow through with a CC1 application in 2014, or that the RFL will accept them.

Lots could happen between now and then.

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I'd go as far as saying any Conference South could not happen without Championship 1 reserve sides.

Well if you haven't got the standard you can't run a tier 3 conference south then

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There's no guarantee Coventry will follow through with a CC1 application in 2014, or that the RFL will accept them.

Lots could happen between now and then.

Thats true, it was not long ago that Coventry where on their chin straps and Heworth where flying hight, these two examples just show how short lived being at the top can be and being at the bottom can change with the influx of a few players.

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Well if you haven't got the standard you can't run a tier 3 conference south then

There are clubs with no tier 4 option though, so they'd take the Championship 1 reserve option any day.

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There are clubs with no tier 4 option though, so they'd take the Championship 1 reserve option any day.

Sounds like you would not be able to make the standard without loan players.

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If the NCL Committee are going to allow you to join for just the one season then it's got to be an indication on who is really running the competition.

How many times do we have to tell you:- The NCL clubs will decide

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How many times do we have to tell you:- The NCL clubs will decide

Yer and we will have has many induced votes as it's necessary to get the result required.

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how the meeting go last night? did a vote take place?

I'd like to know this, too, especially since my deadline for the Grassroots section of RLW is today! Would be good to include news of who's in NCL3 next year.

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I'd like to know this, too, especially since my deadline for the Grassroots section of RLW is today! Would be good to include news of who's in NCL3 next year.

Another piece of quality research ;-)

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So happy days then 9 new teams in ncl 3 and 6 teams who were in the RL/ncl organised ncl 3 last year now out of the new 'improved' version next year.. Only RLFC could operate so shodily. Whats the appeal process or is it a London Welsh job - anyone know a good Brief!!

So who knows RL's plan for 2013 for those teams seemingly left leagueless Bristol, St. Albans, S Wales, Bramley, Kippax and Warrington?? Possibly a breakaway league meeting in George Hotel invitees only.

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Apparently St Albans never applied so we'll never know if they'd have got accepted or not. Kippax had membership promised conditionally if they had enough players and would have got in if only they hadn't called off 3 games (enough for expulsion from the Pennine League). Hard to feel sympathy for South Wales Hornets. Wizards at least have a strong local league if need be.

Bristol and Northampton I do have a lot of sympathy for and can't help feeling travel was part of the reason as they do run reserves and juniors. Don't know the reasons though.

Possibly a rival league could be drawn up when you realise the Championship U23 is shaky and Fryston and Birstall Victoria currently face a very weak tier 4 league. But possibly the RFL would look at making it a southern league?

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So happy days then 9 new teams in ncl 3 and 6 teams who were in the RL/ncl organised ncl 3 last year now out of the new 'improved' version next year.. Only RLFC could operate so shodily. Whats the appeal process or is it a London Welsh job - anyone know a good Brief!!

So who knows RL's plan for 2013 for those teams seemingly left leagueless Bristol, St. Albans, S Wales, Bramley, Kippax and Warrington?? Possibly a breakaway league meeting in George Hotel invitees only.

I believe the RFL plan remains for a Midlands based Tier 3 competition . Some of the clubs you mention are just short of the exacting criteria for NCL , others well off and some have failed fixtures during their application process.. The RFL standards may be sufficiently relaxed to get that moving now the NCL vote has taken place.

The new clubs have until next wednesday to accept their invitation . The acceptances are flying back already .Coventry and Nottingham in particular I suspect have this conundrum - is a bird in the hand worth two in the bush ? North to security and quality of fixture and administration , or stay where they are in the hope that a re-brand will satisfy their various ambitions...............

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I believe the RFL plan remains for a Midlands based Tier 3 competition . Some of the clubs you mention are just short of the exacting criteria for NCL , others well off and some have failed fixtures during their application process.. The RFL standards may be sufficiently relaxed to get that moving now the NCL vote has taken place.

The new clubs have until next wednesday to accept their invitation . The acceptances are flying back already .Coventry and Nottingham in particular I suspect have this conundrum - is a bird in the hand worth two in the bush ? North to security and quality of fixture and administration , or stay where they are in the hope that a re-brand will satisfy their various ambitions...............

You believe :lol: - Re-brand, yet another :lol: Why repair whats not broke :wacko:

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I suspect the definition of midlands may stretch from Bristol and London in the south right to the fringes of the heartlands. Some concerns have been raised about the presence of Championship 1 reserve teams in tier 4 so a convenient rule change there may leave a tier 4 midlands with enough teams to run.

As to the Yorkshire Men's League well this year the season started April 21st and only 3 regular season games happened in September, none at premier division level. Only 14 games were scheduled in the league and fewer still happened. Kippax and Bramley struggled at the ends of the season just as much as most of the other Yorkshire sides (naturally not Fryston). So to me they may as well run an 8 team premier of Fryston, Bramley, Kippax, Birstall, Walton and 2 others. Possibly Cutsyke could manage a shorter season, possibly Scarborough and Knottingley could manage once their winter commitments are over. Leeds Akkies, York Lokomotive et al could form a second division no different to the RLC. It would probably be best for NCL A teams to run their own full season merit league.

There are rumours of a contingency plan by the NCL if anyone pulls out which I shan't repeat but it may help attract new members and retain struggling existing members.

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It obviously will be broke if the teams that have made up those successful applications for membership of the NCL leave their current set up. I suppose that in your infinite wisdom it is better to hold those clubs back, demand that they stay in a poorly run league with no chance of progression, with numerous fixture failures and restrict their evolution into top class community RL clubs. Just for the sake of keeping things the same as the good old days!

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You believe :lol: - Re-brand, yet another :lol: Why repair whats not broke :wacko:

Is NCL3 not broke?

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I believe the RFL plan remains for a Midlands based Tier 3 competition . Some of the clubs you mention are just short of the exacting criteria for NCL , others well off and some have failed fixtures during their application process.. The RFL standards may be sufficiently relaxed to get that moving now the NCL vote has taken place.

The new clubs have until next wednesday to accept their invitation . The acceptances are flying back already .Coventry and Nottingham in particular I suspect have this conundrum - is a bird in the hand worth two in the bush ? North to security and quality of fixture and administration , or stay where they are in the hope that a re-brand will satisfy their various ambitions...............

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So obviously being in the know and at the aforesaid meeting you state that some clubs mentioned fall way short of the criteria are nearly there and some have failed fixtures in the application period. Are you prepared to say who failed on what ? When some clubs that were accepted also fail the "exacting" criteria. I am led to believe that wizards were turned down on playing strength, I don't think that they have ever failed a fixture. And Bramley were turned down because they ground share with another nil club ? Which I believe has happened in the ncl before. And Bramley failed to fulfil 1 fixture in the application process. I hope you will be able to post the answers on here and not in some breach of protocol , thanks

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Wizards failed due to not running junior sides I imagine. Playing standard can't have been an issue, surely?

Bristol and Northampton were the closest out of the applicants I would imagine as I can't think where they fail. Though Kippax and I believe Rylands have good set ups and failed due to lack of open age players.

South Wales Hornets should be obvious and the reasons for Bramley's failure are discussed elsewhere. Just one fixture is enough for rejection but lack of reserves, junior and own ground were other factors.

Bank Quay Bulls fail on the ground but are otherwise strong. As for Mancunians WTF did they apply for? They're a merit league club FFS.

Del Capo will know much more than me but can't comment because of his position. I'm applying the criteria to the applicant clubs.

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Bowes there has only been you banging the drum about why Bramley should not have been allowed in

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Bowes there has only been you banging the drum about why Bramley should not have been allowed in

No. I'm the only one prepared to state the obvious.

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