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The thing about Powell is that if it goes wrong, he'll look for a way to fix it.

Other teams are playing with bigger packs against our pack dominated game, need to figure out another way.

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we have to keep the faith i know how all are supporters are hurting after yesterday but remember all the happy times we had last season which was nearly every game we played chin up everyone and lets look forward to another great season

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we have to keep the faith i know how all are supporters are hurting after yesterday but remember all the happy times we had last season which was nearly every game we played chin up everyone and lets look forward to another great season

Great post i think next year will be a realy good season for us im realy excited to seeing our new signings take to the pitch as i think our squad will be alot stronger next season with these new signings just wish dom was staying as i think hes been our stand out forward all season for me.Also with a long pre season behind him im hopeing DP makes ingy into our new tonka thats my new years res :lol:

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A} We missed ellis big time IMO so that answers that for me.Kaye cant do the full 80 as we saw.

B} The people that are here right now will get it right IMO.

C} Their is only one person that knows this and its DP and im in no doubt he will get it right and when he does im confident of the trophies rolling in just my opinion though.

You may be correct on all counts Gaz. I sincerely hope you are. But, it really does need properly re-assessing than any knee jerk reaction.

Crack on eh?

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Robin owd cocker, sometimes thy makes morrisey look like timmy mallett. this is sport, there are no gaurantees regardless of how much is invested. i have my own thoughts about whats needed, we all do, but thats for others to sort out.i'm sure our chairman will make his feelings known to the relevant people, he's not shy.

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You may be correct on all counts Gaz. I sincerely hope you are. But, it really does need properly re-assessing than any knee jerk reaction.

Crack on eh?

I totally agree robin but i dont think anything drastic needs to be done.I mean we made 2 finals and won the league IMO thats a fantastic season for me.I just think we need a few tweaks here and their thats all just to make the final step.But like i said when we get over that hurdle i personally see trophy after trophy coming are way.

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Robin owd cocker, sometimes thy makes morrisey look like timmy mallett. this is sport, there are no gaurantees regardless of how much is invested. i have my own thoughts about whats needed, we all do, but thats for others to sort out.i'm sure our chairman will make his feelings known to the relevant people, he's not shy.

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I totally agree robin but i dont think anything drastic needs to be done.I mean we made 2 finals and won the league IMO thats a fantastic season for me.I just think we need a few tweaks here and their thats all just to make the final step.But like i said when we get over that hurdle i personally see trophy after trophy coming are way.

Quite right matt. It may be only fine tuning that's needed. It may need greater adjustment. That's why I wouldn't want to see an over reaction but a considered approach. Like OR has just posted, they'll sort it, not you or I.

I do agree that the difference between total dominance and underachievement is very narrow in our case. One try in two matches and we would have done the treble!!!!

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as for yesterday, it's my fault. i left the red trainers at home.

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you should be sine die!

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you should be sine die!

you know you'd miss me.

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We done well again this season even though we only won the league leaders shield I don't see us as having the best players in the league i think the quality is spread out between most of the teams and that's good for the comp the problem is when you are at the top with no where to go the only thing you can do is stay there or drop down. I my opinion we have done well over the last three years to stop at the top of the league which isn't easy If the league made you champions we would all be saying that we are the best because the RFL say that a playoff makes you champions people start to question if we are been under achieves

I think the club are doing great on and off the field lets hope we can maintain that As for the people that say they are not coming again they are the people that are not helping the club get better and better and allow us to be stronger to win the cups One last thing well done to all the players for this season you have been great again and won the hardest shield/ cup to win and that was the league

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Winning the league gets you nowt other than a plate and an easier route through the playoffs rooster. up to last year there wasn't even any prize money being league leaders.

We have two comps we can realistically win. the nrc and the co-op championship.

Does 1 out of the 6 available trophies during the last 3 yr period represent a good return given the investment in the team??

To answer your question directly. Yes.

The investment has been accross the board. It has delivered (on the whole) success at all levels. We have won trophies at all levels. It has enabled investment in more than just the first team, infrastructure, etc, etc.

I am more proud that we have won as a club, at the same time as picking up quite a bit of silverware.

Best period of success in my lifetime.

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This is, fundamentally, where I have a different perspective to you. I don't disagree with any of your factual statements regarding what the RFL currently believe are success criteria. I don't agree with some of them, but what do I matter. And yes, yesterday's loss hurt, as it should, otherwise there's no point supporting your team.

However, in the 50 years I've been watching Featherstone I don't remember our league performances being anywhere near as consistent as they have been for the past 3 years. And I don't remember the off-field commercial performance being anywhere near its current state.

So, yes, I feel the recent underachievement in finals, but it doesn't feel massive to me. My abiding memory of this season will be the performance against Wigan and I don't think winning yesterday would have changed that.

I believe that since the C*s and Wigan games, our performances have slumped. Those two games really knocked the stuffing out of us.

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To answer your question directly. Yes.

The investment has been accross the board. It has delivered (on the whole) success at all levels. We have won trophies at all levels. It has enabled investment in more than just the first team, infrastructure, etc, etc.

I am more proud that we have won as a club, at the same time as picking up quite a bit of silverware.

Best period of success in my lifetime.

Could'nt agree more ovo its the best success this club as achieved in my life time too on and off the field.I think DP is one of the best coaches we have ever had and im in no doubt that this BOD is the best we have had in my lifetime.

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Quite right matt. It may be only fine tuning that's needed. It may need greater adjustment. That's why I wouldn't want to see an over reaction but a considered approach. Like OR has just posted, they'll sort it, not you or I.

I do agree that the difference between total dominance and underachievement is very narrow in our case. One try in two matches and we would have done the treble!!!!

I'm sure we'll get a considered approach Robin from the club. In a way we've become a victim of our own success in that we set the standards for others to follow, and they have. The top teams have sussed us and we need to change things whether it be the fine tuning or greater adjustment you mention or somewhere in between. We trounced Sheffield in last years final but they beat us this year which begs the question... have they improved out of sight or have we gone backwards at an alarming rate? Maybe it's neither. More often than not cup finals will be keenly fought and the form book count for very little. Lots of factors to take into consideration in my opinion in order to come up with the right answers.

Overall though I still think its been a great season which could and maybe should have been even better with a bit of luck. If that pass to Johnny Grayshon sticks in the NR Cup for instance or the pass to Tommy yesterday hadn't been ruled forward. It's a fine line between success and failure. They'll get it right.

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I'm sure they will get it right Terry. They were on top of the world after their displays against Cas and Wigan, but the displays in the 3 league matches around those cup games showed up certain weaknesses, mainly in attitude and lack of focus. They were badly affected by the loss of Elliss for the NRC Final, compounded by the injuries to Briggs & Heppy, and Kain suffered through switching between hooker and stand-off. The loss of Smeaton just before the GF gave them little time to adjust, and maybe if he'd played Sheffield's first-half tries may have been prevented?

One weakness that stands out like a sore thumb however, is the number of tries conceded in this seasons finals to kicks put behind the defensive line.

Are the wingers too far forward? Is the full-back in the wrong position? Whatever it is I'm sure they'll sort it!

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To answer your question directly. Yes.

The investment has been accross the board. It has delivered (on the whole) success at all levels. We have won trophies at all levels. It has enabled investment in more than just the first team, infrastructure, etc, etc.

I am more proud that we have won as a club, at the same time as picking up quite a bit of silverware.

Best period of success in my lifetime.

Lets put this into a bit of perspective, I have been fortunate to support this club for over 50 years seen a lot of the clubs all time greats, seen them win Wembley cup finals 3 times & finish top of league against all the best. This is a good period in Rovers history but it is second tier rugby, not enitirely all our fault we are still playing second tier rugby & not getting involved in the promotion & relegation debate but with all the investment & sponsorship the club has had 1 trophy from the 6 avaiable is poor, the coach, players BOD would have expected & probabley demanded better. Nothing absolutely nothing gets bums on seats more than winning. I applaud all the off the field stuff but what the first team does on the pitch directly effects attendances. We have played second tier rugby before and did not need 3 seasons of it to win 1 trophy.

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I'm over yesterdays disappointment, and i applaud Sheffield well done. We have won three league leaders shields on the trot, and got to three grand finals on the trot plus the euro champions thingy. Well done Featherstone Rovers on our achievements. Who could have believed this in 2005, up the rovers.

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Lets put this into a bit of perspective, I have been fortunate to support this club for over 50 years seen a lot of the clubs all time greats, seen them win Wembley cup finals 3 times & finish top of league against all the best. This is a good period in Rovers history but it is second tier rugby, not enitirely all our fault we are still playing second tier rugby & not getting involved in the promotion & relegation debate but with all the investment & sponsorship the club has had 1 trophy from the 6 avaiable is poor, the coach, players BOD would have expected & probabley demanded better. Nothing absolutely nothing gets bums on seats more than winning. I applaud all the off the field stuff but what the first team does on the pitch directly effects attendances. We have played second tier rugby before and did not need 3 seasons of it to win 1 trophy.

Hi Nev, I tried to apply perspective by saying "in my lifetime". Started watching in 84. Of course I have seen better teams, but given our ceiling I think this is our best period I have seen.

Anyway, no point in debating this to death. I am happy with our achievements of last 3 years.

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I am aslo happy with our achievements over the past 3 years. Of course having been to many finals I would have liked more trophies but what has happened has happened. The players love playing for this club and they do not go into finals with the intention of losing. We can all get out of bed on a morning with the intentions of doing the best for ourselves and our loved ones but we all make mistakes and have off days. It is how we learn from our mistakes which is important and I am sure this is what the club will do.

When you wake up and watch the news and you hear that a 5 year old girl has gone missing and this week it is the funeral of the great Walt Booth it puts things into perspective.

We will be back stronnger and better than always. Lets stick together and continue to get behind our great club.

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If 5 years ago someone had given me the past 3 seasons,I would have snatched their hand off!

At one stage it was common for us to give opponents 10-12 points start an then begin to play.

Okay, the two finals are disappointing results but we have been beaten by two really good sides and there is no reason for our guys to feel anything else but proud.

We have lost 5 games (and I think only 1of those has been away?) and won 48,drawing only 1 in 3 full seasons! That is an amazing achievement for such a small town club.

Our team will get stronger and though most opposition fans wouldn't admit it,they would love to have the impetus,framework and ambition that Rovers have throughout the club overvthe past 3 years.

It's too easy to forget the recent past and be cynical but POR wil still be one hell of a difficult place to visit next year for our opponents.

Well done Rovers

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Hi Nev, I tried to apply perspective by saying "in my lifetime". Started watching in 84. Of course I have seen better teams, but given our ceiling I think this is our best period I have seen.

Anyway, no point in debating this to death. I am happy with our achievements of last 3 years.

You right Martin no point debating this issue to the endth degree. It has been a great 3 seasons just so disappointed & frustrated it could & should have been so much better. Move on still a lot to be positive about.

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Firstly,whether you. agree or not, the Grand Final is the definitive way of deciding if you are champs or not. Secondly on a league basis FR are the most consistent team over the last 3 seasons, but, fiscally, sentimentally and sportingly this counts for very little. However, a balanced argument is that, if the Grand Final is the ultimate arbiter of who are the champions it's flawed in that it reminds me a little of the old football show piece the FA cup final in that On a one to one situation, albeit not a top six competition, that on any one day an inferior league team, can indeed grab the honours. 1973, 1976 and 1988 are great examples of this in the FAC,

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Ian porterfield made bob stoke's day in 73.

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