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Bradford and Dewsbury link up

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BULLS IN DEWSBURY RAMS LINK UP

Thursday 4th October 2012, 07:19

Bradford Bulls and Dewsbury Rams have entered into a formal agreement that will see players shared between the two clubs as well as benefits for both clubs.

Super League Clubs with a ‘Green’ rated Academy side have been allowed to ‘twin’ with a side from the Championship and both clubs have moved quickly to formulate plans. The partnership will see Dewsbury having access to Bulls players who are not in the 19 –man squad and who are too old for the new Under 19 Academy structure as well as enabling the Bulls to look at any prospects in the Rams side.

There will be opportunities for the Rams to use the Bulls training facilities at Tong as well as joint training sessions in pre season and there will also be a link up with the local Community Clubs in the amateur game in Dewsbury and Bradford. It is also envisaged that fans of both clubs will be able to watch the other side at a reduced cost.

Bulls Coach Francis Cummins said today:

“We are delighted with this partnership with the Rams. Glenn Morrison is a highly rated Coach and I am looking forward to working with him in developing players for both clubs. There was a natural synergy with Dewsbury as we already have a partnership with them through our Lottery and I am ure the benefits of this arrangement will be felt at both clubs and in the amateur game.”

Rams Coach Glenn Morrison is excited by the partnership.

“It’s something I am looking forward to. The Bulls have a lot to offer the Rams and we too will be making a big contribution to this relationship. It’s an exciting time for both clubs and I am sure it will beneficial to the Rams and the Bulls as well as the Community Clubs in both areas.”

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Well, i applaud the straighforward openness of that statement but if it doesnt worry supporters of the championships nothing ever will.

No attempt to word the statement in such a way as to allow the reader to form the impression that a fixed number of players will be dr'd to Dewsbury for the year, tells it as it is, access to a pool of players that will vary from one week to the next.

Does it also leave the non 'green rated' sl clubs scrambling around on a week to week basis trying to find somewhere for senior players outside their 19 to play or will there be overage players in the u19s?

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Well, i applaud the straighforward openness of that statement but if it doesnt worry supporters of the championships nothing ever will.

No attempt to word the statement in such a way as to allow the reader to form the impression that a fixed number of players will be dr'd to Dewsbury for the year, tells it as it is, access to a pool of players that will vary from one week to the next.

Does it also leave the non 'green rated' sl clubs scrambling around on a week to week basis trying to find somewhere for senior players outside their 19 to play or will there be overage players in the u19s?

What is a "green rated academy"? Who has them?

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interesting to read of the linkup there hopeing to do with the local clubs .that would look a bit like trying to get the cream of the dewsbury youngsters i wonder what huddersfield will think of that

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What is a "green rated academy"? Who has them?

there the better teams such as leeds, st helens, bradford, warrington and wigan and i think london

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there the better teams such as leeds, st helens, bradford, warrington and wigan and i think london

Thanks. Any idea how they are actually defined, other than being the "better" teams?

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good to see dewsbury adopting a lesser club..............

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Thanks. Any idea how they are actually defined, other than being the "better" teams?

mainly local products and good coaching and proof of a clear pathway to the first team for a reasonable number of the acadmy players . also having sufficent players of good quality to complete in the acadmy league

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Not entirely sure. I saw a comment from a usually well informed poster on bradfords forum a few weeks back i seem to recall the suggestion being that only 6 clubs had been given the green rating. One those was bradford but at the time it was not clear which league they would be in next year. I assume its based on an RFL assesment but have no idea what was assesed or when.

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This was brought up at the Bulls forum and Stuart Duffy mentioned those with green academies could adopt this link up, he said there were only 5 (?) and it was Bradford, St Helens, Leeds, Wigan and Warrington. Although he was naming them on the spot answering a question from the floor, so if he'd missed any it was understandable.

Anyway, I assume Dewsbury would have to agree to it so they must see it as a good thing.

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Not entirely sure. I saw a comment from a usually well informed poster on bradfords forum a few weeks back i seem to recall the suggestion being that only 6 clubs had been given the green rating. One those was bradford but at the time it was not clear which league they would be in next year. I assume its based on an RFL assesment but have no idea what was assesed or when.

Think it was discussed at the Bulls fans forum last week with the new owners and coaching staff in attendence. Didn't go myself, but remember reading about this - I had assumed the Dewsbury link up was common knowledge to be fair - and I think your summation is about right.

EDIT- as Hindle described just moments before I did

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Probably only one of them should be allowed to enter to stop any suggestions of match fixing.

What an over-reaction that would be

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Not entirely sure. I saw a comment from a usually well informed poster on bradfords forum a few weeks back i seem to recall the suggestion being that only 6 clubs had been given the green rating. One those was bradford but at the time it was not clear which league they would be in next year. I assume its based on an RFL assesment but have no idea what was assesed or when.

I wonder what would happen if one of the Championship teams that are currently running a full academy pathway were to be green rated. Could cause a few issues. :unsure:

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I wonder what would happen if one of the Championship teams that are currently running a full academy pathway were to be green rated. Could cause a few issues. :unsure:

Hmm, i suspect there are ... er ..... 'ways & means' of avoiding that kind of thing.

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Hmm, i suspect there are ... er ..... 'ways & means' of avoiding that kind of thing.

Exactly. :rolleyes::dry:

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Dewsbury Rams are pleased to announce an exciting new mutually-beneficial partnership with Super League club Bradford Bulls.

The deal will see outstanding young players from the Bulls set-up be given the opportunity to prove themselves with the Rams, while Rams squad members with ambitions to make it in the Super League could be given the chance to impress with Bradford. Rams head coach Glenn Morrison will be given access to Bulls players not selected in

Francis Cummins' 19-man Super League match-day squad who are too old for the newly-introduced under-19s Academy competition. The partnership will also allow the Rams the opportunity to make use of the Bulls'

training facilities at Tong High School and joint pre-season training sessions could be held in the lead up to the 2013 campaign. Through the new agreement, both clubs hope to strengthen playing ties with the area's community clubs, which could see fringe Rams first teamers turn out for local

sides when not required as part of Morrison's match-day squad.

The Rams and the Bulls also hope to unveil discount matchday admission packages for supporters of both clubs, allowing fans to take in a game at Odsal or the Tetley's Stadium when their own side isn't in action.

Rams head coach Morrison says he is excited about the potential of the new partnership, and the benefits it can bring to the club.

"It's something I'm really looking forward to," said Morrison. "I feel they have a lot to offer the Rams and we too will be more than happy to

contribute to this relationship. It's an exciting time for both clubs and I am confident that the new partnership

will bring with it huge benefits for the Rams, as well as the area's thriving community scene."

Bulls coach and 'Dewsbury lad' Cummins echoed Morrison's sentiments, and emphasised the importantce of building on the two clubs' "natural synergy".

"We are delighted to be able to partner with the Rams," said Cummins. "Glenn is a highly-rated coach and I am looking forward to working with him and

helping to develop players for both clubs. There was a natural synergy with Dewsbury as we already have a partnership with

them through the lottery, and I am sure the strengthening of these links 'on the field' will bring great benefits to both clubs and the community game."

Dewsbury Rams media

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Utter PR drivel - Cummins talking about "natural synergy". Glad he never became our coach, even Warren Jowitt was more succinct.

Is this really what this game has come to?

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Bulls coach and 'Dewsbury lad' Cummins emphasised the "natural synergy" after years of over-marketing by the Bulls in the Heavy Woollen area. "Only one professional club will need to exist" He said "because we've already been selling the Super league dream to the people of Dewsbury for years."

He continued. "You know it makes sense."

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yes,clubs sharing resources.

Bradford have certainly taken advantage of those resources belonging to others. I am astounded that the Dewsbury club had it's belly so easily tickled.

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Bradford have certainly taken advantage of those resources belonging to others. I am astounded that the Dewsbury club had it's belly so easily tickled.

Maybe, and this might be way off beam, but perhaps they know a bit more about it and whether it benefits their club than you do?

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Maybe, and this might be way off beam, but perhaps they know a bit more about it and whether it benefits their club than you do?

spot on

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