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Feeder Clubs/ SL Link Up?

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Not seen today's Coolie - what does it suggest?

It says 2 SL clubs have approached us , and at the moment we are in talks with both parties

Reading the RFL bit about link ups ,and trying to understand it , super league clubs are allowed to partner 2 championship clubs but only one in each area , so bulls wouldnt be able to link with us an dewsbury for instance , so fred suggests Cas n Giants which we have a good history of DR with , im gonna add wildcats ,Hull KR n Saints to that list too cos we seem to have relations with these as well, so take your pick , your allowed 8 throughout season and 5 per game , if you link with 2 clubs is that per club ?????? , too many grey areas , its like a minefield

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Not sure I want to trust Duffy - I once bought a guitar off him when he owned Jigsaw music - fell to bits in a couple of months. :O

Thought it was your Pete Townsend imitation that did that GOR?

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It says 2 SL clubs have approached us , and at the moment we are in talks with both parties

Reading the RFL bit about link ups ,and trying to understand it , super league clubs are allowed to partner 2 championship clubs but only one in each area , so bulls wouldnt be able to link with us an dewsbury for instance , so fred suggests Cas n Giants which we have a good history of DR with , im gonna add wildcats ,Hull KR n Saints to that list too cos we seem to have relations with these as well, so take your pick , your allowed 8 throughout season and 5 per game , if you link with 2 clubs is that per club ?????? , too many grey areas , its like a minefield

If you think the Bulls are dodgy wait until the Cas announcements to come shortly!

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Today, 10:33 AM

JK says we are in discussions with 2 SL clubs. (Giants and Cats?)

so fred suggests Cas n Giants which we have a good history of DR

Think you should check Freds post again Bob,as above, he says CATS not CAS so presume he means Wildcats.

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think you better get ready for the worst

looking at this mornings league express

Still not a fan of it! It would probably mean more young players would want to play for the club, but it's panning out to be like the AFL's 'feeder club' scheme.

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The next step will be to change your identity..using the word Bradford into your club name; Keeps the super league as a closed shop...AND YES..kills off the championship as we know it;

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Today, 10:33 AM

JK says we are in discussions with 2 SL clubs. (Giants and Cats?)

so fred suggests Cas n Giants which we have a good history of DR

Think you should check Freds post again Bob,as above, he says CATS not CAS so presume he means Wildcats.

wasnt dissin him col , just throwing a few more names in we seem to have good relations with , as it doesnt say whos approached us

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Keeps the super league as a closed shop...AND YES..kills off the championship;

Never thought of it that way. So does this mean the Super League hopefulls (Fev, Fax and now maybe Sheffield) will be staying away from a link up? Can't do much for either club in a deal to be fighting for SL and maybe the possibilty of fighting against eachother.

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Fev will not be linking up with any S/L club and proud to say I will be supporting a club that won't be dictated by a S/L team in a few year Also believe Fax are not either

The way Batley have come on in the last couple of seasons I didn't think they would of great club up at the mount with an excellent coach Time will tell how this works out but lets hope it's not the start of feeder clubs which I think it will be

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Where does it end? Rochdale have 3 people lined up from who they want to name their new coach. However, if the proposed link up with St Helens is to go ahead then Saints want one of their coaches in charge at Rochdale!!!!!!!

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Where does it end? Rochdale have 3 people lined up from who they want to name their new coach. However, if the proposed link up with St Helens is to go ahead then Saints want one of their coaches in charge at Rochdale!!!!!!!

Is that what Saints have said? If that's the case, they will definitely have become St Helen's 'B'.

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Is that what Saints have said? If that's the case, they will definitely have become St Helen's 'B'.

Both RL newspapers yesterday were reporting this, so it appears that is the case.

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Think prob be hull kr,saints,wake,cas. Suppose can be good don't think kear will be dictated to as much as some teams or have 5 in at time,still got a good Squad of 23,prob more if kear sees anyone and won't want to disrupt team too much

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Never thought of it that way. So does this mean the Super League hopefulls (Fev, Fax and now maybe Sheffield) will be staying away from a link up? Can't do much for either club in a deal to be fighting for SL and maybe the possibilty of fighting against eachother.

I think Fev have stated that they will not be linking up with anyone....The Rugby League (also known as Super League) only have ideas to benefit any cause for the top clubs; Why the Championship club chairmen constantly fall into their trap is beyond my comprehension; What about this scenario...Halifax bond with Huddersfield...Halifax qualify for promotion; The Rugby League in its wisdom decide that in fact that these two clubs are ONE anyway; Hello merger;

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Don`t know if I`m more worried about the obvious `feeder clubs` (which is definately the road we are going down now) or the fact that in the above article it states his trust in Gary Thornton`s judgement!!

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Mr Wilson doesn't seem to grasp that fans are not in favour of losing clubs identities. I would not follow fax if it was a team with 4 or 5 dual reg players from a "parent club" we are no ones bitches, off the field, we may get spanked from time to time but so be it.

I never thought I would see the day such a proud club as the bulldogs would go down this route, especially as deals are Done by handshakes only at batley. It could be a case of they don't want to get left behind as fax, fev & Sheffield very well might.

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Mr Wilson doesn't seem to grasp that fans are not in favour of losing clubs identities. I would not follow fax if it was a team with 4 or 5 dual reg players from a "parent club" we are no ones bitches, off the field, we may get spanked from time to time but so be it.

I never thought I would see the day such a proud club as the bulldogs would go down this route, especially as deals are Done by handshakes only at batley. It could be a case of they don't want to get left behind as fax, fev & Sheffield very well might.

I really doubt whether any of the above mentioned clubs will get left behind in a playing sense. At Batley, I would say that the only true stand out dual reg player I have seen was McGilvary. All the others have at best been as good as what we already had. My point here therefore is that the clubs in ther top 5 or 6 have probably not got much to gain on the playing side by entering into these agreements other than to increase depth of squad. The gains might be in use of facilities and the garnering of commercial expertise from these partnerships. Could we honestly say that Harrison, Kear, Aston or Powell have much to learn on the coaching side? Or is that arrogant?

Looking at it from the rational point of view, there may be benefits to my club and anything that ensures the continued existence of Batley I would applaud. After all, 130+ years of pride, heritage and tradition are worth saving almost, and I repeat almost at any cost.

Speaking from the heart though, I would not like to see players from a SL club getting game time when not necessary or not up to it. While I trust the administrators of my club to do the right thing for the club, as they have been doing for years, I would be dismayed if my perception was that we were playing other players at the behest of a so - called senior club. That would be the end of it for me, which sounds a bit dramatic but is nevertheless the position I find myself in. I am waiting, with some trepidation I have to say on the outcome of the negotiations between Batley and the SL clubs as mentioned in the interview with Paul Harrison.

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Theres A bit more insight in todays local press

"BATLEY BULLDOGS are on the verge of announcing a ground-breaking partnership which delighted head coach John Kear believes will leave rival Co-operative Championship clubs looking on in envy.

It is understood the Bulldogs will confirm a deal with a local Super League side over the coming days, but the Mount Pleasant outfit’s plans will blow those of their rivals “out of the water”, according to the former England boss.

Rivals Dewsbury Rams recently unveiled their link-up with Bradford Bulls, which is set to see players from the top flight ply their trade in the sport’s second tier while, in return, some of the Championship’s best could gain their chance on rugby league’s big domestic stage.

A number of other part-time clubs have followed suit, Hunslet Hawks tying the knot with Super league champions Leeds Rhinos, though Kear, who wishes to make full use of his 25-man squad in 2013, insists Batley’s agreement will be different and far superior, based mainly on player welfare.

“I am not a fan of the feeder or takeover concept, but the deal we have in place will blow all other partnerships out of the water,” revealed Kear.

“Our agreement, if it comes off, with one of the Super League clubs is based on player welfare and, in my opinion, will leave the other Championship clubs startled. It is set to be truly fantastic for all concerned.

“We have absolutely no interest in becoming a production line for a bigger club and I have fully assessed the benefits which other clubs are, or in some cases are not, getting as part of similar agreements. Ours, however, will certainly stand out from the crowd.”

Kear put the finishing touches to his new-look squad on Tuesday following the capture of dual-registration forward Daniel Fleming. "

heres the link

http://www.thepressn...ils.asp?id=8379

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I never thought I would see the day such a proud club as the bulldogs would go down this route, especially as deals are Done by handshakes only at batley. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: It could be a case of they don't want to get left behind as fax, fev & Sheffield very well might.

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According to the logic behind this article the SL clubs don't think these players will actually make SL grade in any case but can't stand the thought of letting them go.

Rose-tinted at best I'm afraid.

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According to the logic behind this article the SL clubs don't think these players will actually make SL grade in any case but can't stand the thought of letting them go.

Rose-tinted at best I'm afraid.

You'd think they'd be used to it, especially the rhinos - don't know how many current championship players have been through the rhinos system, but there seems to be a handful at every club.

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I hope its Wakefield

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This whole feeder club nonsense will make a mockery of the championship. Just supposing, the link up of say Hunslet and York with there parent clubs are a roaring success and they both finish in the top 2 after the full season. Towards the end of the season, when the playoffs come around, there parent clubs' have an injury crisis after a long SL season, Leeds and Hull pull all of there quality lads back to play for them, York and Hunslet find themselves in a position of having to play there lads who have not played much all season, as there places have been taken by the SL wannabes week in week out.

What I'm getting at is, the fixtures could well decide your final position in the championship table before a ball is kicked. If you play any of the feeder clubs at the beginning of the season, when they are at full strength with a fist full of SL stars at there disposal they will be a very different proposition to what they will be at the end of the season, when there parent club will be more likely to be suffering an injury crises and recalling all there supposed stars.

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This whole feeder club nonsense will make a mockery of the championship. Just supposing, the link up of say Hunslet and York with there parent clubs are a roaring success and they both finish in the top 2 after the full season. Towards the end of the season, when the playoffs come around, there parent clubs' have an injury crisis after a long SL season, Leeds and Hull pull all of there quality lads back to play for them, York and Hunslet find themselves in a position of having to play there lads who have not played much all season, as there places have been taken by the SL wannabes week in week out.

What I'm getting at is, the fixtures could well decide your final position in the championship table before a ball is kicked. If you play any of the feeder clubs at the beginning of the season, when they are at full strength with a fist full of SL stars at there disposal they will be a very different proposition to what they will be at the end of the season, when there parent club will be more likely to be suffering an injury crises and recalling all there supposed stars.

Whilst many of us are concerned at how these changes may ultimately affect us I don't think and endless series of "what ifs" are truly helpful. Let's see how it all pans out then complain - as we (I) will. :rolleyes:

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