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THE JIMMY SAVILLE THREAD

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The NSPCC have branded Jimmy Savile the worst predatory paedophile ever. If this is the case how was he able to get away with it for so long? OK he was a big star. He was a powerful man. But so was Jonathan King, so was Gary Glitter. I just don't get why someone somewhere didn't blow the whistle

Maybe they did and no one heard it? Or some one deliberately supressed the facts? If such a man can get away with such acts for so long, you have to ask how many more are there?

I must admit I never paid much attention to him in recent years. My kids used to watch Jim'll Fix It, and TBH I thought that got pretty boring. The last time I remember really listening to him was on Savile's Travels on Sundays in the seventies, and he did come across as something of a sexist. But then many people did in those days. Puzzling.

At the time of his death and his 3 day funeral ,there were just one or two murmurings about his sex abuses,but they were shouted down,but I too still cant get my head round how he got away with it for so long.

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The NSPCC have branded Jimmy Savile the worst predatory paedophile ever. If this is the case how was he able to get away with it for so long? OK he was a big star. He was a powerful man. But so was Jonathan King, so was Gary Glitter. I just don't get why someone somewhere didn't blow the whistle

Maybe they did and no one heard it? Or some one deliberately supressed the facts? If such a man can get away with such acts for so long, you have to ask how many more are there?

I must admit I never paid much attention to him in recent years. My kids used to watch Jim'll Fix It, and TBH I thought that got pretty boring. The last time I remember really listening to him was on Savile's Travels on Sundays in the seventies, and he did come across as something of a sexist. But then many people did in those days. Puzzling.

Gary Glitter only got found out because he took a faulty computer to be repaired and they found kiddie porn on it when they were fixing it.

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Gary Glitter only got found out because he took a faulty computer to be repaired and they found kiddie porn on it when they were fixing it.

There was at least one newspaper article about Gary Glitter having sex with an underage girl well before the computer containing child pornography images led to his arrest and prosecution I think. IIRC the then young woman revealed her identity in the newspaper article.

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It's noteworthy and repulsive how sections of the press are using the allegations against Savile to bash the BBC. Whether or not the BBC broadcast a documentary about Savile, and whatever the reasons why it wasn't shown, are tiny matters compared to the truth about JS's activities and the involvement of other adults. It's a typical story of a media player being obsessed with another media organisation and spreading blame.

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There was at least one newspaper article about Gary Glitter having sex with an underage girl well before the computer containing child pornography images led to his arrest and prosecution I think. IIRC the then young woman revealed her identity in the newspaper article.

He was charged with having sex with a 14 year old girl ( the act was alleged to have take place 20 years earlier) but got off with it after it was revealed in court that the News of the World had offered the woman £25k if Glitter was convicted. She had already received £15k from NotW. That was in November 1999. The incident with the computer at PC World was in 1997.

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The NSPCC have branded Jimmy Savile the worst predatory paedophile eve

Is that to cover certain backs.

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He was charged with having sex with a 14 year old girl ( the act was alleged to have take place 20 years earlier) but got off with it after it was revealed in court that the News of the World had offered the woman £25k if Glitter was convicted. She had already received £15k from NotW. That was in November 1999. The incident with the computer at PC World was in 1997.

Aye.

The article I was thinking of was not in the News of The World. I know you haven't said that it was. IIRC it was in one of the Sunday broadsheets, quite a while before the trial you refer to and it referred to G Glitter allegedly being involved with other girls under 16 as well. It maybe that the NOTW picked that up and did their own bit of digging/slapdash journalism.

Sexual offences prosecutions are difficult enough, given the nature of the allegations and the circumstances of the alleged assaults, but successful prosecutions after the details have appeared in the press, or other media, are not common for obvious reasons. Events in subsequent years and months and years will confirm this.

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1. If the Director of Public Prosecutions announced that:

  • as the perpetrator of this appalling behaviour was dead, his crimes died with him.
  • the current complainants could expect official criticism of Savile's former employers but no remunerative compensation

the number of complainants would drop drastically.

2. The BBC editorial policy is wide open to scrutiny. As with any pillar of UK society in such a predicament, we can expect a vice acting deputy head to roll.

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1. If the Director of Public Prosecutions announced that:

  • as the perpetrator of this appalling behaviour was dead, his crimes died with him.
  • the current complainants could expect official criticism of Savile's former employers but no remunerative compensation

the number of complainants would drop drastically.

2. The BBC editorial policy is wide open to scrutiny. As with any pillar of UK society in such a predicament, we can expect a vice acting deputy head to roll.

So,to,clarify, you think people are making theses allegations for financial reward?

Unbelievable if true

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So,to,clarify, you think people are making theses allegations for financial reward?

Unbelievable if true

I didn't understand their post in that way.

I think that if people believed there were no consequences to be had - no consequences of any kind - then certainly some complaints would disappear. There are bound to be those who have jumped on the bandwagon, some will have exaggerated, some even may have made everything up. There is no consequence to doing either as the man is dead and so cannot defend himself and the claims will not come under the same degree of scrutiny as they would have done had he been alive and therefore a legal charge against him be possible.

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There are more intelligent and informed threads elsewhere on the www regarding this subject.

Wouldn't be difficult as some of you here seem to be pig ignorant.

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According to the Telegraph today it was Edwina Currie who gave Jimmy Savile the job at Broadmoor.

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There are more intelligent and informed threads elsewhere on the www regarding this subject.

Wouldn't be difficult as some of you here seem to be pig ignorant.

In what way?

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According to the Telegraph today it was Edwina Currie who gave Jimmy Savile the job at Broadmoor.

Savile 'fixed it' for The Yorkshire Ripper to meet Frank Bruno in Broadmoor. You couldn't make it up...

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FFS give it a rest with your BBC obsession.

News International schadenfreude.

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Savile 'fixed it' for The Yorkshire Ripper to meet Frank Bruno in Broadmoor. You couldn't make it up...

SutcliffeSavilleBruno-400x268.jpg

That's genuine?

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That's genuine?

Yep. It's been doing the rounds for a couple of weeks now. Put 'Savile' Sutcliffe' and 'Bruno' in Google images. Even I was shocked by this.

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There is no doubt in my mind that the BBC delivers Individual excellence at all levels, great people providing best-in-world quality material across a broad spectrum of subjects at a realistic price. I am even prepared to live with the BBC's self- declared leftish bias in news and current affairs journalism because of the overall high quality of progs such as Newsnight

But...at corporate level, there is a sort of institutionalised arrogance: We are the BBC: we are never wrong. Nowhere is this more evident than in the case of the Savile affair. Only the BBC could run a programme like tonight's Panorama, but equally, only the BBC Director-general George Entwistle could respond to a summons by the Culture Media and Sport Select Committee into what he said on TV this morning, "I shall be taking questions in Parliament" No you won't be taking questions, pal, you'll be answering them, or rather, as with any other situation when the BBC corporate comes under scrutiny, you'll be avoiding answering them.

This is the same arrogance displayed by one Peter Salmon (remember him?) who said that the reason RL didn't get much BBC coverage was because "Rugby League has sold its soul to Sky"

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See http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/22/bbc-newsnight-jimmy-savile-scandal

The Newsnight editor, Peter Rippon, is to step aside, as the BBC was forced to admit that his programme was aware of allegations that Jimmy Savile had abused teenagers on the corporation's premises and had unearthed information not previously known to the police .

Note: step aside, not resigned or sacked.

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Yep. It's been doing the rounds for a couple of weeks now. Put 'Savile' Sutcliffe' and 'Bruno' in Google images. Even I was shocked by this.

Have looked it up now.

The Sun covered it as part of their reporting on Sutcliffe's bid for freedom in 2009.

Just bizarre.

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According to the Telegraph today it was Edwina Currie who gave Jimmy Savile the job at Broadmoor.

I worked most of my life in mental health care and the penal system

I don't know if Currie was responsible for giving him the job and/or granting him the kind of access he had, but even if he hadn't done what he is accused of, I'm aghast that he was allowed that access.

I would very much like to know who was directly responsible.

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Have looked it up now.

The Sun covered it as part of their reporting on Sutcliffe's bid for freedom in 2009.

Just bizarre.

I know. And Edwina Currie gave Savile the keys to Broadmoor, it seems. All very unsavoury.

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