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Read Jonnoco's posts. He says that everybody concerned deserves what's coming to them. Morally speaking, they do but it's crappy justice.

Not sure I did actually. I said I have no concerns about pricks posting extremely insulting stuff on social media being punished. Not banter or pee taking, but trashing innocent children's memory. Bet the little tosser isn't so smart now.

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If somebody put a borderline joke on the "Joke Thread", would that person be deemed as a danger to society, and as such punished, or would the "Mods", invertebrates though they are, just delete the post & warn the poster of their distaste?

I don't think they would be seen as a danger to society. If the person was a health worker posting fatuous "jokes" about the abuse of minors, who had been subject to prosecution, who had to go through professional conduct proceedings, and who had also made their identity public, then the mods and other board users would be right to question that individual's judgement, maturity and suitability to work in a responsible post.

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Incitement to commit crimes is a crime. 4 years is a bit rough but he deserved punishing.

He deserves a smack on the ######, of course he does, but four years? You'd get that for running someone over whilst drunk.

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If somebody put a borderline joke on the "Joke Thread", would that person be deemed as a danger to society, and as such punished, or would the "Mods", invertebrates though they are, just delete the post & warn the poster of their distaste?

On here at least, it's about the application of common sense.

You'd be useless at it.

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On here at least, it's about the application of common sense.

You'd be useless at it.

yup!

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He deserves a smack on the ######, of course he does, but four years? You'd get that for running someone over whilst drunk.

A couple of divvys I know tried to rob a shop with a wooden stick (ie pretending it was a gun). They got treated exactly the same as if it had been a real one and jailed. Their families argued 'it wasn't a real one...etc'

I bet he won't be doing it again.

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I bet he won't be doing it again.

Reoffending rates suggest he will.

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I see some geezer has been jailed for wearing an offensive t-shirt about the two coppers who got shot. 8 months.

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Most "humorous" T-shirts are just the opposite ... completely tw@tsome.

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Not sure I did actually. I said I have no concerns about pricks posting extremely insulting stuff on social media being punished. Not banter or pee taking, but trashing innocent children's memory. Bet the little tosser isn't so smart now.

What can be "banter" and "pee taking" to one person can be offensive to someone else. Where do we draw the line? I've read stuff on here that I've found offensive but I'm not sure I'd want anyone to be thrown in jail for it.

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What can be "banter" and "pee taking" to one person can be offensive to someone else. Where do we draw the line? I've read stuff on here that I've found offensive but I'm not sure I'd want anyone to be thrown in jail for it.

I think we can safely say that posting offensive comments about murdered 5 year old girls is well beyond most peoples idea of banter............ wouldn't you?

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I think we can safely say that posting offensive comments about murdered 5 year old girls is well beyond most peoples idea of banter............ wouldn't you?

Yes most people. I'll not argue the fact that the behaviour of the people making these comments is moronic & abhorrent but I'm not convinced that (in the same week we see a public figure given just 140 hours community service for mentally and physically abusing their partner) we should be sending these people to jail.

Are jokes about a deceased alleged sex offender abusing underage girls. Is that banter?

Or what about a group of men making lewd comments about pictures of scantily clad women? Is that banter too?

You need look no further than these forums for examples of the above and I find that offensive.

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In reality, I don't think they should be sent to prison either. But I don't actually care that they are if I'm totally honest.

And if you are putting comments on here in the same bracket as comments about murdered children, then you need to have a think about it.

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I'm not putting them in the same bracket. There just isn't a clear cut line between what is "banter" and what isn't.

Frankie Boyle makes jokes about disabled children. He's a millionaire. Some guy makes what he perceives to be a joke about a murder victim and gets thrown in jail.

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I'm not putting them in the same bracket. There just isn't a clear cut line between what is "banter" and what isn't.

Frankie Boyle makes jokes about disabled children. He's a millionaire. Some guy makes what he perceives to be a joke about a murder victim and gets thrown in jail.

There's definitely a line between banter and what isn't. If anyone I knew started making such comments I'd tell them to stfu, not just think it was banter.

As for Boyle, yes there would seem to be a discrepancy here. But then again, there's nothing stopping the guy getting up on stage and saying the same things is there? He can see if he can be a millionaire too. Boyle may be beyond the pale to many but at least he isn't doing it behind a PC.

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There's definitely a line between banter and what isn't. If anyone I knew started making such comments I'd tell them to stfu, not just think it was banter.

As for Boyle, yes there would seem to be a discrepancy here. But then again, there's nothing stopping the guy getting up on stage and saying the same things is there? He can see if he can be a millionaire too. Boyle may be beyond the pale to many but at least he isn't doing it behind a PC.

They could see it just as "banter" though. You wouldn't but your friend might. Who decides who is right?

Someone might post sexist comments on an Internet forum. They might say it's banter and I might disagree. Who is right?

But is it all fine as long as long you do it in front of a microphone and not on a computer? Does the medium make it offensive? Frankie Boyle has a website. If he posts an offensive joke on there should he be jailed?

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They are free to make any comments they like. But I don't have to stand there with them or remain friends, so I decide.

No one should be jailed for being offensive, the point I'm making is that how many people would say what they say under their own name, aware that everyone could listen.

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I see some geezer has been jailed for wearing an offensive t-shirt about the two coppers who got shot. 8 months.

The sentence was doubled because he admitted breaching the terms of a previous suspended jail term. And, apparently, he has a history of many other offences.

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on Radio Five live this morning, he claimed that everyone had the right to discriminate.

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They do to an extent, businesses have the right to refuse to serve customers often on quite spurious grounds e.g. they don't like your clothing. What they don't have the right to refuse service on certain grounds e.g. race, religion, gender (with some exceptions), sexuality.

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I'm listening to the gay couple who sued the Christian B&B owner. And I have to say they sound like a right pair of wet lettuces. Pompous asses they are IMO. Some people have differing views to you, get over it.

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I didn't intend this thread to turn into a debate about the rights of B&B owners or gay couples, that's probably something that needs its own thread if anyone has the urge to start one.

I posted the Griffin story here because he has used Twitter to publish the private address of people he doesn't like and urged his followers (I'm sure they're a lovely bunch really) to turn up and stage a demo outside their house. Is that acceptable?

His twitter account was suspended for a time last night, but it is back online now with the tweet with the actual address in it removed.

This is where it gets awkward defending the rights of people to post whatever they like on social media under the blanket of free expression. It isn't just comedians or individuals with a dubious sense of humour you end up defending. It is odious toads like Nick Griffin, whose intentions were obviously not friendly towards the people whose address he published online.

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Isn't it in keeping with the theme though? Taking offence, what is reasonable and all that?

Edit just read the Griffin link. Didn't know it was connected. What a prat.

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